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Made my first AU58+ Capped Bust and its a POP 1

EDLEDL Posts: 68 ✭✭✭✭

Here it is:

1834 50c o.102

I cracked this coin out of an NGC AU53 and was extremely surprised when I got the grades back. This coin is currently at CAC. Total luster bomb in hand, zero complaints whatsoever.

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  • pcgsregistrycollectorpcgsregistrycollector Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Whoa! Absolute stunner of a coin!

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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,030 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great looking Bustie. I amazed that NGC under-graded her by 2 and a plus grades.

    Congratulations, that coin is awesome.

    Are you happy with the TrueView?

    Would love to see a @PhilArnold GreatPhoto of her.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 36,337 ✭✭✭✭✭

    this coin is asking why the forum doesn't display larger photos

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  • lermishlermish Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:
    this coin is asking why the forum doesn't display larger photos

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 36,337 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lermish said:

    @MsMorrisine said:
    this coin is asking why the forum doesn't display larger photos

    way too small!

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  • lermishlermish Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:

    @lermish said:

    @MsMorrisine said:
    this coin is asking why the forum doesn't display larger photos

    way too small!

    I can't tell if you're kidding or not but if not..right click on the photo and select "Open Image In New Tab" or, if on a phone, hold on the picture and then select "Open Image In New Tab".

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 36,337 ✭✭✭✭✭

    it wants to be displayed for the world to see (easily)

    beautiful coin for almost 2 centuries

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  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,621 ✭✭✭✭✭

    🥰 what a beauty! Congratulations on the move …… nice reward there!

  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 6,342 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It’s gorgeous

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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,030 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @Goldbully said:
    Great looking Bustie. I amazed that NGC under-graded her by 2 and a plus grades.

    Congratulations, that coin is awesome.

    Are you happy with the TrueView?

    Would love to see a @PhilArnold GreatPhoto of her.

    However nice the coin might look in the images, why do take it as a given that NGC undergraded the coin, rather than that (gasp😮) PCGS overgraded it?


    Will be interesting to see if CAC gives her a sticker.

  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,030 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:
    this coin is asking why the forum doesn't display larger photos


  • it has the toning look that I really love for my personal collection. That said... does it really look AU-58? That's a fair amount of friction on the cheek, joined by noticeable circulation marks.

    Either way, it's a beauty and congratulations on getting to own it.

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  • labloverlablover Posts: 3,716 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @Goldbully said:
    Great looking Bustie. I amazed that NGC under-graded her by 2 and a plus grades.

    Congratulations, that coin is awesome.

    Are you happy with the TrueView?

    Would love to see a @PhilArnold GreatPhoto of her.

    However nice the coin might look in the images, why do take it as a given that NGC undergraded the coin, rather than that (gasp😮) PCGS overgraded it?

    OUCH!!!

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  • ProofmorganProofmorgan Posts: 822 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe NGC gave it a technical grade of 53 due to the contact marks vs. a 58+ market grade from PCGS. Either way, it's a beautiful coin.

    Collector of Original Early Gold with beginnings in Proof Morgan collecting.
  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There are a small percentage of coins that are "curve balls", hard to grade with certainty. As JP Martin said on these boards, he'd often have two grades in mind before assigning a final grade. I've seen a second tier service call a Bust 50c "AU55" that NGC called "58PL". If a coin is "no problem" NGC will often give it the best they can without later getting embarrassed when "problems" can be shared online, or a complicated grade assigned.

  • RobertScotLoverRobertScotLover Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Must had been in an old no line fatty to acquire that type of toning, which btw I also admire. Hard to grade from that type of photography but at the minimum its gorgeous and the maximum its high au

  • gschwernkgschwernk Posts: 377 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Many of my 58 and 58+ are being sold at great collections I don’t know if any are left but you can check on their site my collection was most all 58

  • lermishlermish Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gschwernk said:
    Many of my 58 and 58+ are being sold at great collections I don’t know if any are left but you can check on their site my collection was most all 58

    In the interest of fairness and equal enforcement, I have flagged this post. It's a pure advertisement for items for sale and it's in someone else's completely unrelated thread.

    Sorry OP, back to your gorgeous coin with an improbable (on paper) upgrade.

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,758 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RobertScotLover said:
    Must had been in an old no line fatty to acquire that type of toning, which btw I also admire. Hard to grade from that type of photography but at the minimum its gorgeous and the maximum its high au.

    I’m guessing the toning was acquired by long term album storage, rather than from the NGC holder.
    Though I’ve seen as well as heard of the old ANACS holders imparting blue rim toning….

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  • breakdownbreakdown Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not to rain on OP’s parade but I can’t imagine how that is a 58+ with that reeding mark on the neck.

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,964 ✭✭✭✭✭

    🤩

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  • gschwernkgschwernk Posts: 377 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lermish said:

    @gschwernk said:
    Many of my 58 and 58+ are being sold at great collections I don’t know if any are left but you can check on their site my collection was most all 58

    In the interest of fairness and equal enforcement, I have flagged this post. It's a pure advertisement for items for sale and it's in someone else's completely unrelated thread.

    Sorry OP, back to your gorgeous coin with an improbable (on paper) upgrade.

    I appologize for this post. I was trying to help. If you knew me you would realize that increasing sales means nothing to me financially.

  • lermishlermish Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gschwernk said:

    @lermish said:

    @gschwernk said:
    Many of my 58 and 58+ are being sold at great collections I don’t know if any are left but you can check on their site my collection was most all 58

    In the interest of fairness and equal enforcement, I have flagged this post. It's a pure advertisement for items for sale and it's in someone else's completely unrelated thread.

    Sorry OP, back to your gorgeous coin with an improbable (on paper) upgrade.

    I appologize for this post. I was trying to help. If you knew me you would realize that increasing sales means nothing to me financially.

    No problem and it's obvious based on your collecting that an incremental bid or two is not germane to your financial situation. Just a matter of decorum. All is good👍🏼

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  • Coins3675Coins3675 Posts: 613 ✭✭✭

    WOW

  • Old_CollectorOld_Collector Posts: 423 ✭✭✭✭

    If it doesn't CAC, I'll offer 100% over melt. ;)

  • @Walkerguy21D said:

    @RobertScotLover said:
    Must had been in an old no line fatty to acquire that type of toning, which btw I also admire. Hard to grade from that type of photography but at the minimum its gorgeous and the maximum its high au.

    I’m guessing the toning was acquired by long term album storage, rather than from the NGC holder.

    I agree with this. Many of my bust half-dollars with that same kind of color have definitely never been certified and were in album collections. (I say "definitely" because I owned them before encapsulation existed.)

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  • EDLEDL Posts: 68 ✭✭✭✭

    @RobertScotLover said:
    Must had been in an old no line fatty to acquire that type of toning, which btw I also admire. Hard to grade from that type of photography but at the minimum its gorgeous and the maximum its high au

    Actually came out of one of the newer-ish "edge view" holders, I believe they were introduced in 2008.

  • EDLEDL Posts: 68 ✭✭✭✭

    Here are some in hand photos:


    If you want to see a video I have it posted on my ig: levinerarecoins

  • RobertScotLoverRobertScotLover Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Too bad about the blast white centers, market acceptable but definitely not original. But I enjoy the color

  • jacrispiesjacrispies Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice upgrade. Was this the coin you purchased at the tail end of the ANA?

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  • Morgan13Morgan13 Posts: 1,765 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thats a coin id like for my box of 20 for sure. The mark on the neck doesn't bother me. I think if it were uncirculated it would grade no higher than 63 because of it.
    No matter its a pretty bust half.

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  • EDLEDL Posts: 68 ✭✭✭✭

    @jacrispies said:
    Nice upgrade. Was this the coin you purchased at the tail end of the ANA?

    Precisely. Wasting time before my flight, bought it, immediately cracked it out and sent it off to PCGS.

  • pcgsregistrycollectorpcgsregistrycollector Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @EDL said:

    @jacrispies said:
    Nice upgrade. Was this the coin you purchased at the tail end of the ANA?

    Precisely. Wasting time before my flight, bought it, immediately cracked it out and sent it off to PCGS.

    What was the previous grade?

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  • pmh1nicpmh1nic Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pcgsregistrycollector said:

    @EDL said:

    @jacrispies said:
    Nice upgrade. Was this the coin you purchased at the tail end of the ANA?

    Precisely. Wasting time before my flight, bought it, immediately cracked it out and sent it off to PCGS.

    What was the previous grade?

    AU-53.

    The criteria for AU grades has changed over the years. In my opinion the contact marks on the neck and cheek would have precluded a 58 grade in the past. So at the time the 53 grade made have been appropriate but today 58 would be considerate an accurate grade.

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  • pcgsregistrycollectorpcgsregistrycollector Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pmh1nic said:

    @pcgsregistrycollector said:

    @EDL said:

    @jacrispies said:
    Nice upgrade. Was this the coin you purchased at the tail end of the ANA?

    Precisely. Wasting time before my flight, bought it, immediately cracked it out and sent it off to PCGS.

    What was the previous grade?

    AU-53.

    The criteria for AU grades has changed over the years. In my opinion the contact marks on the neck and cheek would have precluded a 58 grade in the past. So at the time the 53 grade made have been appropriate but today 58 would be considerate an accurate grade.

    Well said. And I like your biography quote as well!

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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,801 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 28, 2025 11:32AM

    Beautiful color/target toning. The reeding mark doesn’t bother me at all. I’ve seen them on Coins graded as high as 65, so it doesn’t bother me on a 58+.

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