Dipping the coin is not the fix all answer as it can leave harsh cleaning marks when the tarnish is removed. The tarnish on the coin has some dark spots that can leave white spots when the tarnish is removed. You overpaid for the coin. Return it to seller and put your $70 to use on buying a better upgrade example. If you want to practice your dipping, buy some cull silver and start dipping.
My experience with cracking and dipping larger silver coins has been hit-or-miss at best. First, I've never done this on a continual basis... i make my money somewhere else... so there's a learning curve. Second, the coins didn't really look THAT much better and in several instances revealed additional hairlines and evidence of the cleaning that got it bagged in the first place. The dip just made it worse! Lastly, cracking coins only has you incurring additional costs...
I chose "Other" since I'd just leave it in the holder as a reminder that we shouldn't doom-scroll ebay in the middle of the night! ... FWIW, I keep a scratched raw AU 1909 IHC in a 2x2 flip on my desk for just this purpose!
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@dcarr said:
Bust it out, dip it, and show the results here. It will be a good educational opportunity.
Take the best photos you can before you bust it out and repost Everyone hates the look of the coin, but severe hairlines and over-dipping (burnt appearance) are not that apparent even though the photo is a close up. It might have light hairlines that someone thought they could fool ICG into a clean AU grade by that hideous toning. If that is the case, then dipping it may reveal a cleaned coin but 1 that is not that bad and would fit into an album.
Why sell at a loss? The coin already has a melt value of $34. Once the price of silver doubles, you'll be at breakeven. If it keeps going up from there, you can sell at a profit.
Unfortunately its a sow's ear, and no much will help it. The toning is ugly, so dipping it, can't make it look worse. As it is, it's bullion in a slab.
Don't waste any money on getting it certified. Someone else already did that.
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The coin arrived, and looked pretty bad. Basically no cartwheel/luster, and strange mottled toning. I'm not sure, but I think these are indications that it was previously dipped, and maybe not rinsed well afterward. At certain angles, you could see a strange pinkish color in the upper left/lower right on the obverse. Not good. Here are some pics (best I could get with my iPhone).
So, I decided to go ahead with my experiment. After cracking it out, I first rinsed it in acetone (no change), and then did the dip for a quick three count. I maybe should have done a faster dip, but this coin was kinda shot already anyway. After the dip I rinsed well multiple times in distilled water. The nasty colors are gone, but there are hints of mottling at certain angles. There was no cartwheel before, and now it has started to take on that almost-polished smoothness of an over-cleaned coin.
Here are pics of the results:
In the end, I'd say the experiment turned out about how I expected it to. I don't like the "polished" look, but getting rid of the nasty discoloration has improved the eye appeal. It's sufficient now for the album, until I can find an AU/MS example that has a half-way decent strike and original luster. And in the meantime, it will glare at me from the album with its unnaturally polished-looking surfaces, reminding me not to shop for "deals" on eBay when I'm over tired.
Oh well. It appears to look cleaned and polished now. Are you sure the coin pictured was the one received? I don't recall seeing that kind of coloration on the original image. I might be wrong though.
@pcgsregistrycollector said:
Oh well. It appears to look cleaned and polished now. Are you sure the coin pictured was the one received? I don't recall seeing that kind of coloration on the original image. I might be wrong though.
Yes, this is the same coin. The coloration seemed to change depending on the viewing angle.
it looks like you did a pretty good job dipping it. yes, the coin is cleaned, but i think it looks better. it probably hasn't improved the value any, nor hurt it. but the eye appeal is better imo.
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Dipping the coin is not the fix all answer as it can leave harsh cleaning marks when the tarnish is removed. The tarnish on the coin has some dark spots that can leave white spots when the tarnish is removed. You overpaid for the coin. Return it to seller and put your $70 to use on buying a better upgrade example. If you want to practice your dipping, buy some cull silver and start dipping.
My experience with cracking and dipping larger silver coins has been hit-or-miss at best. First, I've never done this on a continual basis... i make my money somewhere else... so there's a learning curve. Second, the coins didn't really look THAT much better and in several instances revealed additional hairlines and evidence of the cleaning that got it bagged in the first place. The dip just made it worse! Lastly, cracking coins only has you incurring additional costs...
I chose "Other" since I'd just leave it in the holder as a reminder that we shouldn't doom-scroll ebay in the middle of the night! ... FWIW, I keep a scratched raw AU 1909 IHC in a 2x2 flip on my desk for just this purpose!
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Take the best photos you can before you bust it out and repost Everyone hates the look of the coin, but severe hairlines and over-dipping (burnt appearance) are not that apparent even though the photo is a close up. It might have light hairlines that someone thought they could fool ICG into a clean AU grade by that hideous toning. If that is the case, then dipping it may reveal a cleaned coin but 1 that is not that bad and would fit into an album.
$70 is worth it if you can use it to learn something.
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Did you dip it yet? If so, how did it turn out?
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Sell it and buy a better one.
Ck for varieties(dbld rev or dbl wing)and sell regardless of what you find. Not attractive for an album IMO. Take +/- and move on. Good luck.
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Why sell at a loss? The coin already has a melt value of $34. Once the price of silver doubles, you'll be at breakeven. If it keeps going up from there, you can sell at a profit.
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A dip likely will not improve the mottled toning, could make it worse. I would just try to sell it as is and move on.
Looking forward to seeing the results...
That holder is not doing it any favors.
Unfortunately its a sow's ear, and no much will help it. The toning is ugly, so dipping it, can't make it look worse. As it is, it's bullion in a slab.
Don't waste any money on getting it certified. Someone else already did that.
Ditto.
I’d say “dip away”, but I’m not sure how well it would respond to that.
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Never had luck dipping AU peace dollars , They then look very washed out
I would not do it!
Work has kept me busy this week. Hopefully I can find some time this weekend or early next week for this experiment.
The coin arrived, and looked pretty bad. Basically no cartwheel/luster, and strange mottled toning. I'm not sure, but I think these are indications that it was previously dipped, and maybe not rinsed well afterward. At certain angles, you could see a strange pinkish color in the upper left/lower right on the obverse. Not good. Here are some pics (best I could get with my iPhone).
So, I decided to go ahead with my experiment. After cracking it out, I first rinsed it in acetone (no change), and then did the dip for a quick three count. I maybe should have done a faster dip, but this coin was kinda shot already anyway. After the dip I rinsed well multiple times in distilled water. The nasty colors are gone, but there are hints of mottling at certain angles. There was no cartwheel before, and now it has started to take on that almost-polished smoothness of an over-cleaned coin.
Here are pics of the results:
In the end, I'd say the experiment turned out about how I expected it to. I don't like the "polished" look, but getting rid of the nasty discoloration has improved the eye appeal. It's sufficient now for the album, until I can find an AU/MS example that has a half-way decent strike and original luster. And in the meantime, it will glare at me from the album with its unnaturally polished-looking surfaces, reminding me not to shop for "deals" on eBay when I'm over tired.
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Oh well. It appears to look cleaned and polished now. Are you sure the coin pictured was the one received? I don't recall seeing that kind of coloration on the original image. I might be wrong though.
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Yes, this is the same coin. The coloration seemed to change depending on the viewing angle.
it looks like you did a pretty good job dipping it. yes, the coin is cleaned, but i think it looks better. it probably hasn't improved the value any, nor hurt it. but the eye appeal is better imo.