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Why is the 1963-D penny so difficult in high grade?

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  • World67World67 Posts: 13,088 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @braddick said:

    @Morgan White said:

    @masterwax2000 said:
    glad this thread has gotten so much attention.

    Literally 46% of the posts in this thread are yours.

    And now it is over 60% (yes, I did the math...).

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 25,045 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @masterwax2000 said:

    @Morgan White said:

    @braddick said:

    @Morgan White said:

    @masterwax2000 said:
    glad this thread has gotten so much attention.

    )

    who's counting? someone with nothing better to do with their time?

    Only because you are a somewhat rare breed of troll. Usually your style is best suited over on subreddits rather than a coin forum.
    PCGS boards gets its fair share of trolls yet generally they are more amusing and entertaining. This thread is a one-note-joke and you the author of it.

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 17,267 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 24, 2025 3:52PM

    You didn't quote the entire AI definition. Here's part of the definition that was left out.

    Spam and overload feeds: They flood comments or live feeds with repetitive or negative messages.

    Deny facts: They intentionally post incorrect information or deny obvious facts to provoke others.

    ;)

    Also, if you want to expand on a post you just made you can edit it rather than making new posts.

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  • World67World67 Posts: 13,088 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @masterwax2000 said:
    I am only reacting to the the vibe I am getting. Like some people are just here for the jokes. I'm not but they seem to keep coming.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 17,267 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I personally hope you get the grade you're looking for. It just seems that you were trying a little too hard to convince us the coin deserves it.

    People here can give their opinions but you just need PCGS to agree with you.

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 25,045 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @masterwax2000 said:
    I am not necessarily saying my coin is that great but I see a lot that aren't great getting MS67 or MS67+ and it seems like not all of them deserve that grade along side the one's that are almost flawless.

    There are nine PCGS graded MS67 coins and none in MS67+.
    How many of those have you seen again?

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  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,955 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @masterwax2000 said:

    @IkesT said:

    @masterwax2000 said:
    after my coin comes back and I share the results I will never post on here again. I don't feel welcome. actually I feel the opposite.

    you must come here just to post stuff like that... glad you found a place you belong.

    Stick around. You haven't seen his best stuff yet.

    The measure of intelligence is the ability to change.
    Albert Einstein (14 March 1879--18 April 1955)

  • World67World67 Posts: 13,088 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mr1931S said:

    @masterwax2000 said:

    @IkesT said:

    @masterwax2000 said:
    after my coin comes back and I share the results I will never post on here again. I don't feel welcome. actually I feel the opposite.

    you must come here just to post stuff like that... glad you found a place you belong.

    Stick around. You haven't seen his best stuff yet.

    That's Harsche.

  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,955 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Morgan White said:

    @mr1931S said:

    @masterwax2000 said:

    @IkesT said:

    @masterwax2000 said:
    after my coin comes back and I share the results I will never post on here again. I don't feel welcome. actually I feel the opposite.

    you must come here just to post stuff like that... glad you found a place you belong.

    Stick around. You haven't seen his best stuff yet.

    That's Harsche.

    The copycat has spoken.

    The measure of intelligence is the ability to change.
    Albert Einstein (14 March 1879--18 April 1955)

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  • nagsnags Posts: 905 ✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for posting the result. When there is a sizeable jump in value from one grade to the next, the grading standard is not taken lightly.

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  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see several spots on the reverse and at least one on the obverse. Do you not see those? Also muted luster on the reverse.

    The values are what they are for a reason. It's VERY difficult to get a 67.

  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 4,164 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @masterwax2000 said:
    What did it have that killed the grade?

    It was too harsche.

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  • lermishlermish Posts: 4,560 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good on you for coming back and posting the results. That takes gumption, especially after how this thread transpired.

    Sorry about the result, better luck next time.

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  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's really not that difficult (only to find) they're wanting to pick up the coin and see no distractions. If that happens then they can take a closer look and determine if an even closer look is warranted, or not.

    In the trueview the first thing I notice is 6 or 7 distractions in the obverse fields.
    It has a semi PL obverse which isn't helping to hide the obverse distractions then the reverse is muted and not matching.
    But the good new is, you were so close but so far away. :D:)

    I recently hit a couple 67s (Not 63 D unfortunately) and these coins are far from perfect but at first glance no immediate distractions.


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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 29,830 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @masterwax2000 said:
    Of course I don't agree with the Grade (MS66) ,especially when looking at their picture and comparing it to others . the only comments I would appreciate are what do you think the reason for the Grade being what it is ? What did it have that killed the grade? or What did it need? Thanks, Mike

    It's a great coin. If it's 66 it's a high end 66.

    It's probably the marks in the field in front of the bust and the roughness on the shoulder. I thought the bump for being a tough date might carry it to 67.

    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
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  • yspsalesyspsales Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice result.

    Keep grinding

    Crack it and resubmit in a future order.

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  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @masterwax2000 said:

    @Coinscratch said:
    It's really not that difficult (only to find) they're wanting to pick up the coin and see no distractions. If that happens then they can take a closer look and determine if an even closer look is warranted, or not.

    In the trueview the first thing I notice is 6 or 7 distractions in the obverse fields.
    It has a semi PL obverse which isn't helping to hide the obverse distractions then the reverse is muted and not matching.
    But the good new is, you were so close but so far away. :D:)

    I recently hit a couple 67s (Not 63 D unfortunately) and these coins are far from perfect but at first glance no immediate distractions.


    there are 167 MS67's in 1955D and 490 MS 67's in 1954 S . There are 9 MS67's in 1963 D .

    Thus the price difference.

  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 12,347 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @masterwax2000 said:
    2 coins to consider submitting

    From only these four photos you have two MS65 (one might squeak into a 66) coins not worth the cost to submit.

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  • Old_CollectorOld_Collector Posts: 839 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @masterwax2000 said:
    third joke on this thread and third one I don't get. Explain and then if necessary I will elaborate of why I put my searched pennies into CoinStar.

    I went to put $375 into a Coinstar machine, but the grocery store manager went wild and told me that she needed all those cents so that she could open the normal checkout lanes (and not just the self check credit card lanes). I was good with that since those were all the junk cents and it saved me a lot of time. I had already sold 5 boxes of 2023-D on EBay for $120 a box and the rolls of 2025 cents for $10 a roll from a box of those. Seems crazy to me, but people seem to really want them and my bank did not want them back at face.

  • World67World67 Posts: 13,088 ✭✭✭✭✭

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