@masterwax2000 said:
glad this thread has gotten so much attention.
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who's counting? someone with nothing better to do with their time?
Only because you are a somewhat rare breed of troll. Usually your style is best suited over on subreddits rather than a coin forum.
PCGS boards gets its fair share of trolls yet generally they are more amusing and entertaining. This thread is a one-note-joke and you the author of it.
A troll on a message board is someone who deliberately posts inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments with the intention of provoking an emotional response and disrupting the discussion for their own amusement. doesn't sound like me....
@masterwax2000 said:
I am only reacting to the the vibe I am getting. Like some people are just here for the jokes. I'm not but they seem to keep coming.
I am not necessarily saying my coin is that great but I see a lot that aren't great getting MS67 or MS67+ and it seems like not all of them deserve that grade along side the one's that are almost flawless.
I can't wait to see my True view photo. a perfect picture that doesn't hide any flaw. It will probably put things into perspective about grading and what I thought I had vs What I think about other peoples coins. Looking forward to that.
@masterwax2000 said:
I am not necessarily saying my coin is that great but I see a lot that aren't great getting MS67 or MS67+ and it seems like not all of them deserve that grade along side the one's that are almost flawless.
There are nine PCGS graded MS67 coins and none in MS67+.
How many of those have you seen again?
@masterwax2000 said:
I am not necessarily saying my coin is that great but I see a lot that aren't great getting MS67 or MS67+ and it seems like not all of them deserve that grade along side the one's that are almost flawless.
There are nine PCGS graded MS67 coins and none in MS67+.
How many of those have you seen again?
I look at similar years also 1963 to 1964 mostly and like I said some deserve the grade in my opinion and some don't . Yeah NGC has graded a few 1963 D MS67's also but most don't consider them. the grader is god and what he says stands . I have pictures of 6 of the 9 so yeah I knew that.
@masterwax2000 said:
after my coin comes back and I share the results I will never post on here again. I don't feel welcome. actually I feel the opposite.
you must come here just to post stuff like that... glad you found a place you belong.
Stick around. You haven't seen his best stuff yet.
If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, it expects what never was and never will be.---Thomas Jefferson, 3rd President of the United States of America, 1801-1809. Jefferson was the primary author of the Declaration of Independence.
@masterwax2000 said:
after my coin comes back and I share the results I will never post on here again. I don't feel welcome. actually I feel the opposite.
you must come here just to post stuff like that... glad you found a place you belong.
Stick around. You haven't seen his best stuff yet.
@masterwax2000 said:
after my coin comes back and I share the results I will never post on here again. I don't feel welcome. actually I feel the opposite.
you must come here just to post stuff like that... glad you found a place you belong.
Stick around. You haven't seen his best stuff yet.
That's Harsche.
The copycat has spoken.
If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, it expects what never was and never will be.---Thomas Jefferson, 3rd President of the United States of America, 1801-1809. Jefferson was the primary author of the Declaration of Independence.
@masterwax2000 said:
after my coin comes back and I share the results I will never post on here again. I don't feel welcome. actually I feel the opposite.
you must come here just to post stuff like that... glad you found a place you belong.
Stick around. You haven't seen his best stuff yet.
Of course I don't agree with the Grade (MS66) ,especially when looking at their picture and comparing it to others . the only comments I would appreciate are what do you think the reason for the Grade being what it is ? What did it have that killed the grade? or What did it need? Thanks, Mike
@jonathanb said:
I see several spots on the reverse and at least one on the obverse. Do you not see those? Also muted luster on the reverse.
The values are what they are for a reason. It's VERY difficult to get a 67.
Sure I saw them . I see them on MS67 Lincoln cents also so they are not a true grade killer from what I have seen reviewing other high grade Lincoln cents from the 60's. The sulfer spots are noted, Thanks. That isn't muted luster . Of course a 67 isn't easy but it should be possible.
It's really not that difficult (only to find) they're wanting to pick up the coin and see no distractions. If that happens then they can take a closer look and determine if an even closer look is warranted, or not.
In the trueview the first thing I notice is 6 or 7 distractions in the obverse fields.
It has a semi PL obverse which isn't helping to hide the obverse distractions then the reverse is muted and not matching.
But the good new is, you were so close but so far away.
I recently hit a couple 67s (Not 63 D unfortunately) and these coins are far from perfect but at first glance no immediate distractions.
@Coinscratch said:
It's really not that difficult (only to find) they're wanting to pick up the coin and see no distractions. If that happens then they can take a closer look and determine if an even closer look is warranted, or not.
In the trueview the first thing I notice is 6 or 7 distractions in the obverse fields.
It has a semi PL obverse which isn't helping to hide the obverse distractions then the reverse is muted and not matching.
But the good new is, you were so close but so far away.
I recently hit a couple 67s (Not 63 D unfortunately) and these coins are far from perfect but at first glance no immediate distractions.
Unfortunately like the thread says it's the hardest year and mint to find a MS67 so the normal rules don't apply like you stated. Looking at alot of the MS66 PLus and MS67 from 1963D coins they don't seem to deserve the grade but it's not their fault they were given it. Luck or Something came into play on some of the grades given. Why do you THINK the reverse is muted? I am not trying to find something else that is easier to find I want to find something that is omg you found what?
@Coinscratch said:
It's really not that difficult (only to find) they're wanting to pick up the coin and see no distractions. If that happens then they can take a closer look and determine if an even closer look is warranted, or not.
In the trueview the first thing I notice is 6 or 7 distractions in the obverse fields.
It has a semi PL obverse which isn't helping to hide the obverse distractions then the reverse is muted and not matching.
But the good new is, you were so close but so far away.
I recently hit a couple 67s (Not 63 D unfortunately) and these coins are far from perfect but at first glance no immediate distractions.
there are 167 MS67's in 1955D and 490 MS 67's in 1954 S . There are 9 MS67's in 1963 D .
@masterwax2000 said:
Of course I don't agree with the Grade (MS66) ,especially when looking at their picture and comparing it to others . the only comments I would appreciate are what do you think the reason for the Grade being what it is ? What did it have that killed the grade? or What did it need? Thanks, Mike
It's a great coin. If it's 66 it's a high end 66.
It's probably the marks in the field in front of the bust and the roughness on the shoulder. I thought the bump for being a tough date might carry it to 67.
@masterwax2000 said:
Of course I don't agree with the Grade (MS66) ,especially when looking at their picture and comparing it to others . the only comments I would appreciate are what do you think the reason for the Grade being what it is ? What did it have that killed the grade? or What did it need? Thanks, Mike
It's a great coin. If it's 66 it's a high end 66.
It's probably the marks in the field in front of the bust and the roughness on the shoulder. I thought the bump for being a tough date might carry it to 67.
Thanks, it deserves a MS66 plus but that's fine. I'll take what I have learned and have a better coin next time around.
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then stop posting and let me go for the record.
who's counting? someone with nothing better to do with their time?
)
Only because you are a somewhat rare breed of troll. Usually your style is best suited over on subreddits rather than a coin forum.
PCGS boards gets its fair share of trolls yet generally they are more amusing and entertaining. This thread is a one-note-joke and you the author of it.
peacockcoins
this is the only message board I have ever been on so maybe that's why.
I am only reacting to the the vibe I am getting. Like some people are just here for the jokes. I'm not but they seem to keep coming.
A troll on a message board is someone who deliberately posts inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments with the intention of provoking an emotional response and disrupting the discussion for their own amusement. doesn't sound like me....
You didn't quote the entire AI definition. Here's part of the definition that was left out.
Spam and overload feeds: They flood comments or live feeds with repetitive or negative messages.
Deny facts: They intentionally post incorrect information or deny obvious facts to provoke others.
Also, if you want to expand on a post you just made you can edit it rather than making new posts.
ok. cool. still doesn't sound like me. Thanks for straightening that out for me.
I personally hope you get the grade you're looking for. It just seems that you were trying a little too hard to convince us the coin deserves it.
People here can give their opinions but you just need PCGS to agree with you.
I am not necessarily saying my coin is that great but I see a lot that aren't great getting MS67 or MS67+ and it seems like not all of them deserve that grade along side the one's that are almost flawless.
I can't wait to see my True view photo. a perfect picture that doesn't hide any flaw. It will probably put things into perspective about grading and what I thought I had vs What I think about other peoples coins. Looking forward to that.
There are nine PCGS graded MS67 coins and none in MS67+.
How many of those have you seen again?
peacockcoins
I look at similar years also 1963 to 1964 mostly and like I said some deserve the grade in my opinion and some don't . Yeah NGC has graded a few 1963 D MS67's also but most don't consider them. the grader is god and what he says stands . I have pictures of 6 of the 9 so yeah I knew that.
Stick around. You haven't seen his best stuff yet.
If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, it expects what never was and never will be.---Thomas Jefferson, 3rd President of the United States of America, 1801-1809. Jefferson was the primary author of the Declaration of Independence.
That's Harsche.
The copycat has spoken.
If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, it expects what never was and never will be.---Thomas Jefferson, 3rd President of the United States of America, 1801-1809. Jefferson was the primary author of the Declaration of Independence.
Assuming that comes when I get a MS66
Of course I don't agree with the Grade (MS66) ,especially when looking at their picture and comparing it to others . the only comments I would appreciate are what do you think the reason for the Grade being what it is ? What did it have that killed the grade? or What did it need? Thanks, Mike
Thanks for posting the result. When there is a sizeable jump in value from one grade to the next, the grading standard is not taken lightly.
I see several spots on the reverse and at least one on the obverse. Do you not see those? Also muted luster on the reverse.
The values are what they are for a reason. It's VERY difficult to get a 67.
It was too harsche.
Sure I saw them . I see them on MS67 Lincoln cents also so they are not a true grade killer from what I have seen reviewing other high grade Lincoln cents from the 60's. The sulfer spots are noted, Thanks. That isn't muted luster . Of course a 67 isn't easy but it should be possible.
Good on you for coming back and posting the results. That takes gumption, especially after how this thread transpired.
Sorry about the result, better luck next time.
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Thanks, There will be a next time if I come across something better than this coin , but it's not easy guessing what PCGS is looking for.
It's really not that difficult (only to find) they're wanting to pick up the coin and see no distractions. If that happens then they can take a closer look and determine if an even closer look is warranted, or not.
In the trueview the first thing I notice is 6 or 7 distractions in the obverse fields.
It has a semi PL obverse which isn't helping to hide the obverse distractions then the reverse is muted and not matching.
But the good new is, you were so close but so far away.
I recently hit a couple 67s (Not 63 D unfortunately) and these coins are far from perfect but at first glance no immediate distractions.
two beautiful 1963 D MS 66 PLUS!
Earlier in the thread this MS67 was posted with the same darker right side so that's muted luster too?
how could that be possible? Muted Luster....Seems like Camera angle to me.
there are 167 MS67's in 1955D and 490 MS 67's in 1954 S . There are 9 MS67's in 1963 D .
It's a great coin. If it's 66 it's a high end 66.
It's probably the marks in the field in front of the bust and the roughness on the shoulder. I thought the bump for being a tough date might carry it to 67.
Thanks, it deserves a MS66 plus but that's fine. I'll take what I have learned and have a better coin next time around.
Nice result.
Keep grinding
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