An interesting scam (?) attempt - let me know your thoughts please

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U1chicago
U1chicago Posts: 6,993 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited September 23, 2025 6:34PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Here is a slightly different take on the old type of scam we have seen.
There is a new member who posted a legitimate thread. Please see below.

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1116934/sac-collectors-question

Then someone mentioned that he sent the typical message we have seen many times on this forum.

Now I received something a little different.

Here is my post:
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1116896/want-to-buy-pcgs-rattlers-starting-with-109-and-110

And the message I received has a coin with the exact same cert number but it looks different. Is this some type of photoshop using a different coin? It is certainly odd!

Here are the words under the picture from the message:

Here is an image of my want to buy post:

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  • JBK
    JBK Posts: 17,860 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Scam, regardless of the variation.

  • U1chicago
    U1chicago Posts: 6,993 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @JBK said:
    Scam, regardless of the variation.

    It certainly is. I’m just wondering how the photo was done and why they chose the same exact cert number? Probably not something that can be learned but it makes me wonder.

  • JBK
    JBK Posts: 17,860 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    That's above my paygrade but I assume it's photoshopped or otherwise altered. It's well done, though.

  • U1chicago
    U1chicago Posts: 6,993 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @JBK said:
    That's above my paygrade but I assume it's photoshopped or otherwise altered. It's well done, though.

    It definitely had me doing a double take.

  • MsMorrisine
    MsMorrisine Posts: 40,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    could be ai

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  • World67
    World67 Posts: 13,098 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Rule of thumb: I never buy anything from someone that knocks on my door. I also would never buy anything from someone who PM's me.

  • NJCoin
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    @U1chicago said:

    @JBK said:
    Scam, regardless of the variation.

    It certainly is. I’m just wondering how the photo was done and why they chose the same exact cert number? Probably not something that can be learned but it makes me wonder.

    My guess is that they don't know enough about TPG slabs to know that each certification number is unique. And that they thought showing you exactly what you were looking for would get you to bite. The specifics of where the picture came from is beside the point given all the available images of rattlers and Franklins.

  • Suze
    Suze Posts: 54 ✭✭✭
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    It is also possible that Jazzycard was a legit brand new member whose account got hijacked and doesn’t know how to ask for help… I’m not sure I would tbh

  • MsMorrisine
    MsMorrisine Posts: 40,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    here's my version

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  • MsMorrisine
    MsMorrisine Posts: 40,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    just adjusting the balances

    i could throw in a pic of another 63 but you get the point

    it's easy to mod. then ai or something can put it in a hand

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  • braddick
    braddick Posts: 25,183 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nails are too clean to be anything other than AI.

  • PerryHall
    PerryHall Posts: 47,752 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The scammers coin looks like a business strike rather than a proof which immediately raises a big red flag.

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  • mbogoman
    mbogoman Posts: 5,342 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yeah, Jazzycard sent me a PM about his friend Edson who has what I'm looking for. Told him to pound sand...

    mbogoman

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  • Coins3675
    Coins3675 Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭✭
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    That Is CRAZY

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  • Samets
    Samets Posts: 410 ✭✭✭✭
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    This scan is prevalent all over forums and Facebook groups. Thankfully they are not savvy enough to know what they're trying to scam you of and go right off the want ad. I've had a few PM's like these over the years and thankfully they are easy to spot... I did have one that took PP G&S and didn't ship anything... Took a week to get my money back...

  • Meltdown
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    @Morgan White said:
    Rule of thumb: I never buy anything from someone that knocks on my door. I also would never buy anything from someone who PM's me.

    pm sent. :D

  • World67
    World67 Posts: 13,098 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Meltdown said:

    @Morgan White said:
    Rule of thumb: I never buy anything from someone that knocks on my door. I also would never buy anything from someone who PM's me.

    pm sent. :D

  • TomB
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    It has the "feel" of an AI produced image.

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  • Paradisefound
    Paradisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    especially in this hobby …….. Full STOP on even a slightest discrepancy 😖

    Thank you for sharing your due diligent!

  • vplite99
    vplite99 Posts: 1,434 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Thank you for sharing!

    Vplite99
  • jshaulis
    jshaulis Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Morgan White said:

    @Meltdown said:

    @Morgan White said:
    Rule of thumb: I never buy anything from someone that knocks on my door. I also would never buy anything from someone who PM's me.

    pm sent. :D

    We all were thinking it.

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