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More silver market frenzy now or with the Hunt Brothers run up?

BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 10,294 ✭✭✭✭✭

Seems the Hunts generated more excitement. Thoughts?

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 36,243 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 17, 2025 6:11PM

    hunt

    as mentioned in other threads, the inflation adj numbers were much higher then

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,753 ✭✭✭✭✭

    more frenzy now because a whole lot more players involved.

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  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 10,294 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:
    more frenzy now because a whole lot more players involved.

    Sound point. Probably the Internet has furthered it along as well.

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,442 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:

    @derryb said:
    more frenzy now because a whole lot more players involved.

    Sound point. Probably the Internet has furthered it along as well.

    A friend told me 40+ years ago to stay away from stores because of the internet. I'm kinda glad I did. Back to silver 🙂

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 6,661 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nobody is buying physical. This is solely paper driven......for now. THKS!

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  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 6,661 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @johnny9434 said:

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:

    @derryb said:
    more frenzy now because a whole lot more players involved.

    Sound point. Probably the Internet has furthered it along as well.

    A friend told me 40+ years ago to stay away from stores because of the internet. I'm kinda glad I did. Back to silver 🙂

    40+ years ago? Pre 1985?? Was your friends name Al Gore by any chance. :smiley: RGDS!

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,442 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @blitzdude said:

    @johnny9434 said:

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:

    @derryb said:
    more frenzy now because a whole lot more players involved.

    Sound point. Probably the Internet has furthered it along as well.

    A friend told me 40+ years ago to stay away from stores because of the internet. I'm kinda glad I did. Back to silver 🙂

    40+ years ago? Pre 1985?? Was your friends name Al Gore by any chance. :smiley: RGDS!

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  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,436 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @blitzdude said:
    Nobody is buying physical. This is solely paper driven......for now. THKS!

    Agreed.

    IMO, no comparison. In 1980, it was certainly a frenzy... silver was in the news daily and seemed everyone wanted it; lots of full page newspaper ads urgently wanting to buy silver and gold, etc.; many outfits set up in hotel rooms to purchase gold silver and coins. The REAL silver, the physical silver.

    Now, silver is certainly moving up, but there is no sense of urgency. At least not yet. And, you can buy PHYSICAL silver at or below melt! The rise in price is likely being paper driven, by larger entities like banks and funds, etc., not by the common man in the street. But certainly can change into a frenzy/panic!

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  • carew4mecarew4me Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭✭

    Selling physical silver in a spot run up is a difficult lesson for stackers to learn. The more spot rises, the less buyers.
    It would take a national shortage type story to get the hotel room buyers engaged or the spot price would have to normalize on the higher shelf (at least a year) given that past run-ups have all been pump and dumps . In the meantime, hold the physical and trade the paper.


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  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,753 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 18, 2025 2:21PM

    @blitzdude said:
    Nobody is buying physical. This is solely paper driven......for now. THKS!

    uhm, you got it backwards. Physical price drives paper demand. Physical price determines paper prices. The higher the physical price, the more paper buyers pay.

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  • GoldFinger1969GoldFinger1969 Posts: 2,564 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is no frenzy. I remember the Hunt Brothers and EVERYBODY was talking about it, including people who only collected pocket change.

    The Hunt's controlled 1/3rd of the global silver supply.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,753 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GoldFinger1969 said:
    This is no frenzy. I remember the Hunt Brothers and EVERYBODY was talking about it, including people who only collected pocket change.

    The Hunt's controlled 1/3rd of the global silver supply.

    how much does JPM now control?

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  • ms71ms71 Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 21, 2025 8:26AM

    Here's another look at it from the perspective of then/now dollars:

    Silver's high in January 1980 was $49.45. The equivalent in today dollars would be $205.92.
    Silver's current value is $43.31. The equivalent in January 1980 dollars would have been $10,40.

    Imagine the frenzy if silver reached $205.92 now. A single 90% dime would be worth over $13. A single 90% half would be worth over $65.

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  • nagsnags Posts: 829 ✭✭✭✭

    Another metric, the S&P with dividend reinvestment, is up 53x from 1980 to present. silver would need to be at around $2650 today to be worth the equivalent value of the silver high in 1980.

    The price in 1980 is really not comparable to the current situation.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,753 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 21, 2025 9:14AM

    Fixed if for you:

    @nags said:
    Another metric, the S&P with dividend reinvestment, is up 53x from 1980 to present. silver would need to be at around $2650 today to be worth the equivalent value of the silver high S&P in 1980.

    A more accurate yard stick is inflation/dollar purchasing power: silver would need to be at around $190 today to be worth the equivalent value of the silver high in 1980. But since that 1980 high is an anomoly created by the Hunt Brothers, a more realist view of silver's purchasing power is it's ability to keep up with inflation for the past twenty years, and it has.

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