Should I dip this 25-S Peace?
steve_richardson
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I’ve been looking for an upgrade to my 25-S Peace dollar, and ended up on eBay late last night. I guess I was trying to get a deal, because I made an offer on this ICG Details coin. I had forgotten about it until I got a notification this morning that my offer was accepted! What do I do now?
Should I dip this 25-S Peace?
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Even if you dip it, it will still have the 'cleaning' issue, likely due to hairlines.
I would crack it and stick it in an album and forget about it.
PS-This coin is actually a 1925-S not a 1928-S.
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My "other" vote: sell it. Otherwise that dog will be barking at you forever.
Thanks! Updated the post. (Where’s the emoji for “that was an embarrassing typo”?)
Sell it take your lumps. Lesson learned.
I'd crack it and send to PCGS for conservation and slabbing.
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Interesting idea. I guess if it still has decent luster and not too many hairlines from the cleaning, that might be worth it? Would they dip it to remove the toning, or just do something to stabilize the surfaces?
This 😉
Or is this a joke? I have no experience with PCGS conservation.
No, no joke.
I'd otherwise leave it alone or sell it raw (that ICG slab isn't doing you any favors).
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if you dont want the coin, sell it as is
It's all about what the people want...
I doubt that the coin has decent luster and if it’s dipped, the cleaning will probably be more conspicuous. I wouldn’t spend any additional money on it and if you don’t like it, why would your keep it?
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If you do experiment with this by involving PCGS conservation. etc., please let us know how it goes. I’d be curious whether PCGS would accept this coin for conservation, perhaps depending on the damage done by the “cleaning”? Not something I would spend my time and money on, but could be an interesting experiment.
Dip it
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If seller allowed, return for refund and eat the s&h.
Get rid of it any way possible
Get rid of it and be a bit lot more discerning in the future when making purchases.
I disagree here. Yes, if there's a return policy it's within the OP's rights to return it, but I think a return privilege requires good faith. It's one thing to buy a coin and in hand realize it's not what you're looking for or perhaps it looks different than hoped. But in this case, I don't think there's any question the coin is a dog, nor, frankly, is there a question (as I interpret things) as to whether the OP will like the coin (he won't). In this instance, I don't think it's right to buy something just to send it back when the return was inevitable from the start. It wastes the seller's time, and perhaps more for some coins than others, the value can be affected when buyers see it get relisted, because that's an indication to them that someone already rejected the coin.
I hate to say that it looks sort of awful. It deserves to avoid any further embarrassment by getting dipped.
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As a seller I would hate returns, I agree, but that is part of the business one needs to accept. If the OP paid the shipping both ways, that's his loss for making an bad decision. Not so sure about effecting future transactions. The coin is what it is and doubt other buyers are actively reviewing and contemplating a purchase. Its a $40-50 coin at best. OP will lose about 30% of that with the S&H. Now if this was a $500 coin, I'd agree with you.
I would not waste any of your time on it. A cleaned AU 25-S is just bullion IMO, they aren't difficult to locate until MS62-63, then become basically impossible above MS64. I don't think the holder does anything for it so there's no reason not to crack it out, but I don't think there will be any improvement from a dip.
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Yes, I would gift it to a relative that knows nothing about coins and tell them a long story about how you selected it just for them.
Note: I am a notorious regifter in my family tree but try not to regift to the original gifter when possible.
Regarding returns, to me this is clearly a case where I made a mistake. So I won’t be returning it. I would only return it if the seller somehow misrepresented it, and therefore it is not what I thought I bought.
Fortunately it’s not a lot of money, so in the end it’s just a lesson learned for me. If by some chance it looks better in person, then I’ll just keep it, and use it to remind me to be more discerning/judicious in the future. If it looks really bad, then maybe I’ll just see if someone would be willing to give me spot price for it so they can add it to their stack.
I'm with Randolf Duke on this one... Sell!
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I'm not denying that if the seller accepts returns the seller has to accept the return. I'm just saying that I think that there are times when people should hold themselves to a standard higher than the minimum letter of the law. I accept returns in case a coin really just doesn't work, but I don't expect someone to buy a coin they don't like just for the privilege of sending it across the country and back.
I actually had a related scenario occur just last week. A prospective buyer for a coin on eBay asked a question, and I answered it in depth, along with a few follow-up questions/answers. His last question was whether I accept returns. I answered that I do, but also requested that he only bid if he truly believes the coin has a good chance of fitting his needs/wants, and if he thinks that's unlikely and he just wants to take a look in-hand, to please not bid. I can't tell him he isn't allowed to return the coin when I allow returns (and if he did buy and return it, I'd never know his true original intent), but between the photos and many detailed emails, there was no more information I could provide. If he asked about the return because I painted a picture of a coin he was unlikely to enjoy, I'd rather he let someone else bid and win than buy it just for the off chance he'd like it in hand.
For the above reason, even if there's a return policy, I also think it's unethical for someone to buy a coin they think they're cherrypicking from uncertain photos, only to return it when the coin is as advertised but not the (rare/valuable) variety they hoped it might be.
The seller listed the coin for $90 or best offer. The coin has a value under $50. You made a purchase of a coin that you do not want. The eBay seller offers free returns. Return It.
On another note I am not sure why you are buying a details coin for an upgrade as you can find problem free 1925 S examples in the AU range for under $50.
Yeah, that was poor judgement on my part, which I blame on shopping while tired. Learned my lesson for sure.
I’d love to find a mid AU 1925 S for $50. I haven’t been able to find one. Of course I’d love an MS, but most of my set is raw in an album, and I am hesitant to buy a raw coin for a few $100 online. So unless I decide to start building a slabbed set, then I should just wait for the next coin show in my area, I guess.
Dip it and turn it into a pocket piece for a couple of years.
Crack and dip or just sell it if you do not dip it. Take the lose (if you sell it) if any and mark it as lesson learned.
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This one looks like a good option
Otherwise, I recommend saving a search for 1925-S peace dollar auctions, as those often end at a lower cost than a buy it now for an equivalent coin.
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There is 'cleaning' and then there is stripping a coin of every bit of luster and original skin.
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Sell it even at a small loss.
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@steve_richardson how much u pay
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Bust it out, dip it, and show the results here. It will be a good educational opportunity.
If you can, image it (before and after) using spotlight(s) and a normal digital camera instead of a scanner.
A scanner (or broadly-diffused lighting) will make any coin look lifeless and lacking in luster.
That is one ugly coin.
Okay... upon further reflection and after reading many of the opinions here I change my mind: Don't send it to PCGS to be curated and slabbed. I honestly (now) don't think the expense is worth it and this Peace dollar is likely to not really be improved that much.
(Sorry for the somewhat hasty first impression/opinion.)
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I am assuming that you are not into it that much (your offer represented a decent deal in your mind).
this one isn't going to be worth any more as is or dipped. so why not try to dip it to see what happens. my guess is that it will remove most of the stuff, but will still appear discolored where the stuff used to be. either way, it's bullion at this point.
I would like to know to.
I paid $70. So, too much for this coin, but worth it to learn my lesson to shop with more care next time.
Plus I’m now curious to know the result of the dipping experiment that DCarr described. Hopefully I can get good before and after pics.
Leave it alone and dump it on eBay or GC or at the next show you go to. Dipping with something like MS70 can work well on coins with full luster MS66 or better but with something like this you will end up more dull gray areas on the coin. If you are a glutton for punishment then you could crack, dip, rinse well, and then stand on edge on a window sill for a couple years for it to retone evenly…then sell it raw in a flip. Seriously though, who wants to spend that much time and effort on something like this? I’d dump it and call it a lesson learned.
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I don't think a swim will provide any type of improvement on this coin. It will still be mottled in appearance.
I would send The Coin back to ICG and let them conserve it
They do a pretty good job and their fee fees are a lot more reasonable than others
Crack it and stack it as a play on silver. If it is an upgrade, I would say “step up”, not down.
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Sell it and move on. Ugly coin.
I wasn't aware ICG offered this service.
Good to know!
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I am pretty sure they still do.
Worry not... if not for significant haste, we wouldn't have this thread in the first place.
U didn't get burned too bad dude. Maybe only lost like 25 bucks
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For $30 you took a gamble.
For $70 you stayed up too late
Dip for sure, practice your technique and learn how to conserve.
Maybe send it to Dan after you get done with the conservation... have Dan Over stamp you something cool.
🤔 the way she is currently looks 😖 why NOT?
Go dip her babe!