Top five questions:
--- Who will Clemson lose to next??
--- How badly will Tennessee beat Georgia??
--- In week one LSU beat Clemson 17-10. In week two LSU beat an unranked team 23-7 and Clemson beat an unranked team 27-16. Why did LSU stay at number 2 while Clemson actually FELL to number 12??
--- Why does Notre Dame have one loss and a bye week but still remains in the Top 10??
--- What kind of drugs are the "62 sportswriters and broadcasters" taking that compile the AP Poll??
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
They havent missed a bowl game in that time so that makes sense. Up until Venables took over they never had a losing season either. They basically were winning 11 or 12 games every year and he came in and has 2 6 win seasons in 3 years. If he cant get to 8 or 9 at least this year its time to get rid of him.
They go to South Carolina, Bama and Tennessee, Texas is a neutral game in Dallas. Missouri, Ole Miss, and LSU are home games. Auburns a home game as well.
Manning hasnt shown me anything yet to believe in him, and Bama has a coach that is to soft for what they should be. Tennessee will be tough as they will probably be a night game where the stadium will be crazy loud
@Maywood said:
Top five questions:
--- Who will Clemson lose to next??
--- How badly will Tennessee beat Georgia??
--- In week one LSU beat Clemson 17-10. In week two LSU beat an unranked team 23-7 and Clemson beat an unranked team 27-16. Why did LSU stay at number 2 while Clemson actually FELL to number 12??
--- Why does Notre Dame have one loss and a bye week but still remains in the Top 10??
--- What kind of drugs are the "62 sportswriters and broadcasters" taking that compile the AP Poll??
The polls are usually always ridiculous. They always give the benefit of the doubt to the southern teams. Why? I dont know?
AP top 10
Ohio State
Penn State
LSU
Oregon
Miami (Fla.)
Georgia
Texas
Notre Dame
Illinois
Florida State
Finally Illinois getting some respect. I would have Oregon at #3 as I think they would beat LSU.
Ohio State --- overwhelmed an inferior opponent as they should have. To be tested in Week 8. Penn State --- overwhelmed an inferior opponent as they should have. To be tested vs. Oregon in Week 4. LSU --- struggled against a weak team after struggling against overrated Clemson. Hard to understand their ranking so high. Oregon --- overwhelmed an inferior opponent as they should have. To be tested vs. Penn State in Week 4. Miami (Fla.) --- won a squeaker with Notre Dame and hammered a weak B-CU. The truth comes in the next three weeks. Georgia --- easily beat one weak opponent and looked so-so against the next. Tennessee will show the real Bulldogs. Texas --- easily beak a weaker team. Three more weeks till we know the truth about Texas vs. Florida and Oklahoma. Notre Dame --- idle. It's hard to understand how one loss and one week off equates to staying in the Top 10. Illinois --- two easy wins over weaker teams. Hard to judge until they get into their Big 10 schedule. Florida State --- easily beat an overrated Alabama and overwhelmed an inferior East Texas A&M. Here come the Seminoles.
Sometimes I think these Polls are used as a strategic tool to position the teams in the order that the selection committee wants so the game pairings in the playoffs bring the best games. To me that partially explains why LSU is at 3 and Clemson got kicked out of the top 10. Next week, assuming no unforeseen surprises, the positioning will be furthered to get ready for the Week 4 showdown of Oregon vs. Penn State. After that game there will be a shake-up and it will be interesting to see how far the loser falls and how evident bias preferences will be.
Stay tuned.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
While its still too early to tell how good they are, I disagree that Duke is a weak team. Illinois was only favored by 3 points. Duke went 9-4 last year.
And that proves nothing about how good they might be. A team with a 7-6 record played in a Bowl game last season, Duke is just not very good and just not very strong, they are weak and bad although they still might qualify for a Bowl game.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
And that proves nothing about how good they might be. A team with a 7-6 record played in a Bowl game last season, Duke is just not very good and just not very strong, they are weak and bad although they still might qualify for a Bowl game.
I didnt mean it as a compliment more just of how soft their schedule is that gives them a chance to make the bowl. A good team or a great team should have no problem getting there. I wouldnt be shocked if Tulane beats them and they do have Clemson and GT on the schedule, nut I do think they will go 3-1 maybe even 4-0 in their last four games and I have no faith in UNC to be anything.
NC State is down this year and the ACC gets pretty bad fast outside of the top 5 teams for football. Average team that just needs to find a win if they close out their season like they should
Any upsets on the way tomorrow?? I expect the Georgia vs. Tennessee game to be a good one with a probably win by the Volunteers. Other than that I think the outcomes of most games will be victory by the favorites. The big news and helpful information will be how easily they win now that conference schedules will start and the cupcake games are over.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Well USF is the only team in the country that has a win against two teams that were ranked when they played. Miami better not be asleep at the wheel. GT has the ability to beat Clemson but I wouldnt bet on that game either way. Same with A&M against ND. Georgia Tenn flip a coin but I think GA wins that
Indiana started week 3 with an ass-whoopin' of Indiana State 73-0. Still waiting for some team to break the 80 point barrier. There are a couple of good early games, at least they have the potential to be good and might show us something about the rest of the season:
--- Wisconsin vs. 19 Alabama. The 'Tide should win, but will it be a struggle??
--- 12 Clemson vs. Georgia Tech. Are the Tigers a pretender like I think, a loss/close game here could drop them out of the poll.
--- Oklahoma and Oregon should win easily and Michigan is in the same boat as Clemson.
Better games later in the day.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
@Maywood said:
Indiana started week 3 with an ass-whoopin' of Indiana State 73-0. Still waiting for some team to break the 80 point barrier. There are a couple of good early games, at least they have the potential to be good and might show us something about the rest of the season:
--- Wisconsin vs. 19 Alabama. The 'Tide should win, but will it be a struggle??
--- 12 Clemson vs. Georgia Tech. Are the Tigers a pretender like I think, a loss/close game here could drop them out of the poll.
--- Oklahoma and Oregon should win easily and Michigan is in the same boat as Clemson.
And Clemson continues to struggle. Their pattern developing in these last two games is to fall behind early and then have to play catch-up. Today vs. Georgia Tech looks like one of those games where the last team with the ball wins.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
@perkdog said:
Whatcha think about Georgia vs Tennessee?
I like Georgia. Id probably give the edge to Tennessee if it was a night game. Its going to be the first big test for Aguilar and Georgia is a rough introduction to the SEC for a QB coming from App State.
Side note Nico must be must really be regretting his decision by now. Leaving Tenn to make less money to go to a terrible UCLA, pay higher taxes, and get blown out by a terrible New Mexico team at home in from of like 500 people lol
And Clemson has fallen, in line with what I thought, and has answered my question above: Who will Clemson lose to next?? This all brings up some interesting lines of thought pertaining to LSU.
It was my thinking that Clemson was ranked too high in the initial AP pre-season poll, I believe they were at number 4. This resulted in what many of us saw as SEC bias when LSU vaulted to the 3rd spot based on their defeat of Clemson. In a prior argument, @Basebal21 pressed on the significance of SOS, Strength of Schedule, when determining the poll ranking. I submit now that LSU is overrated, that this Clemson loss should drag them out of the 3rd position.
Thus, the Georgia vs. Tennessee game which is just now getting underway, looms large in the AP poll standings and might actually break the psyche of ESPN, Paul Finnebaum and the legion of SEC loyalists. It is possible though not probable that the top 3 could be from the Big 10, Ohio State/Penn State/Oregon, and based on everything else that happens today we could see the SEC pushed out of the top 5.
Interesting. Clemson will be lucky to stay in the top 25.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Penn State is yet to play a real game including today. We can talk about them when they finally play a real game, Oregon hasnt played a real game either, Northwestern and Oklahoma State are trash
So Georgia "held serve" against Tennessee. Since I wasn't watching the game someone would have to explain the end of regulation, how Tennessee managed to drive down to the Georgia 25 with 3 TO's and failed to win. What the heck happened down there??
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
@Maywood said:
So Georgia "held serve" against Tennessee. Since I wasn't watching the game someone would have to explain the end of regulation, how Tennessee managed to drive down to the Georgia 25 with 3 TO's and failed to win. What the heck happened down there??
They missed a 40 something yard field goal with 7 seconds left. Georgia got the ball back with three seconds and took a knee to send it to OT. Tennessee got a FG in OT and Georgia got a TD on two plays to win
@Steven59 said:
That's it? Big bad Ohio State up only 13 - 3 vs Ohio University at the half?????
Ohio got destroyed in the 2nd half as Julian Sayin threw some great TD passes, and Jeremiah Smith was unstoppable the entire game. Ohio is no cupcake. They beat West Virginia last week, and are the favorites to win the MAC conference.
Vanderbilt upsets SEC power #11 ranked South Carolina 31-7.
I heard many Clemson fans refused to watch their team today, upset at the university over the Clemson professors who bashed Charlie Kirk. One got suspended earlier today.
@coolstanley said:
Vanderbilt upsets SEC power #11 ranked South Carolina 31-7.
Pavia pulls out one big upset a year, but the bigger story is South Carolina lost Sellers early in the game to injury. They dont have QB depth and certainly arent an SEC powerhouse unless youre talking baseball. If Sellers is on the field theyre a very good team, if not theyre going to have a long season
Hopefully Anderson for A&M will be back as well after being carted off the field in a stretcher in their game against ND
@coolstanley said:
Vanderbilt upsets SEC power #11 ranked South Carolina 31-7.
Pavia pulls out one big upset a year, but the bigger story is South Carolina lost Sellers early in the game to injury. They dont have QB depth and certainly arent an SEC powerhouse unless youre talking baseball. If Sellers is on the field theyre a very good team, if not theyre going to have a long season
Hopefully Anderson for A&M will be back as well after being carted off the field in a stretcher in their game against ND
Apparently the voters must think South Carolina is a powerhouse. They are ranked in the top 10 in the coaches poll, so I would consider the loss a pretty big upset.
Ohio State dominated their in-state rival, don't be fooled by the points because they just didn't score a TD on every trip down the field. They outgained the Bobcats 572-181, settled for three FG's and Sayin threw 2 INT's.
Looks like a shake-up in the top 10 with the Notre Dame loss. Also, the loss by Clemson and less than dominant performances by both Texas and LSU should cause some rethinking about their positions. Both teams won but their margins of victory over unranked teams should cast doubt on how good they really are. Couple that with the OT win by Georgia.
Ohio State
Penn State
Oregon
Miami (Fla.)
LSU
Texas
Georgia
Illinois
Oklahoma
Florida State
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
@coolstanley said:
Vanderbilt upsets SEC power #11 ranked South Carolina 31-7.
Pavia pulls out one big upset a year, but the bigger story is South Carolina lost Sellers early in the game to injury. They dont have QB depth and certainly arent an SEC powerhouse unless youre talking baseball. If Sellers is on the field theyre a very good team, if not theyre going to have a long season
Hopefully Anderson for A&M will be back as well after being carted off the field in a stretcher in their game against ND
Apparently the voters must think South Carolina is a powerhouse. They are ranked in the top 10 in the coaches poll, so I would consider the loss a pretty big upset.
As I said, they are very good when Sellers is healthy. Sellers got hurt very early in the game and they played with their crappy backup QB
Coaches dont even make those votes some assistant does, but either way when the vote happened Sellers was healthy
@coolstanley said:
Pre season polls had ND how high? Now at 0-2 they will be unranked.
Don't be surprised if they hang around the 25 or 24 spot, they shouldn't but it won't surprise me
Theyll be in the teens. 8 losing to 16 by 1 point isnt going to send their rankings into a tail spin, especially not ND who always gets a couple spots from their TV deal
Can we just go ahead and get rid of the AP poll already. We already know that most of the beat writers only watch the team theyre covering and one of them said the quiet part outloud that she doesnt think her vote matters last week.
Penn State hasnt played a team that could even win the HS national championship and remains at 2. Meanwhile South Carolina drops out from 11 from one loss, Georgia beats number 15 on the road and only moves to 5.
Im not a ND fan by any means but them dropping to 24 is a joke. They lost to a top 10 eam in Miami by 3 points, and by 1 point to the number 16th ranked team. Theyres several teams ranked above them they would beat like Michigan, Indiana, GT, Iowa State, Illinois, they should have been n the mid to upper teens.
Which ND is now the poster child for everything wrong with the AP poll. Yes their schedule overall is weak, but theyre being punished for playing 2 top teams. Meanwhile PSU is getting rewarded for playing three teams that have less talent than Mater Dei or Bishop Gorman, or IMG ect
Penn State hasnt played a team that could even win the HS national championship and remains at 2.
And this is a gross exaggeration for effect, but good.
The same could really be said of LSU. They beat the vastly overrated and fading from sight Clemson Tigers along with the mighty Louisiana Tech Bulldogs to set-up next weeks showdown with powerhouse Southeastern Louisiana Lions. The difference in LSU and Penn State, while they were both playing weak and unranked teams, is that one appeared to struggle with really beating weaker opponents while the other thrashed their weaker opponents.
The point is simple: the better teams are going to play vastly inferior teams, that isn't the point. What matters is how they defeat them.
As for Notre Dame, they are a victim of a poor pre-season Poll rank just like Clemson was. Neither team should have been in the top 10 to start and now the poll is readjusting to show their relative strength. Clemson is already out and has a ton of work to do to earn their way into the top 25. Notre Dame is much the same, unless they get busy fast to fix things they'll be out and have the same road ahead to become relevant again.
The question of Penn State/Oregon being where they are will be answered in a few weeks.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
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Oklahoma will start the season 5-0, at worst 4-1 but yea that second half off the schedule is absolutely brutal
Fire AJ Preller
I just saw this stat from the BTN, Oklahoma since 2000, has the best win percentage at home in college football.
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Ohio State Buckeyes - National Champions
Top five questions:
--- Who will Clemson lose to next??
--- How badly will Tennessee beat Georgia??
--- In week one LSU beat Clemson 17-10. In week two LSU beat an unranked team 23-7 and Clemson beat an unranked team 27-16. Why did LSU stay at number 2 while Clemson actually FELL to number 12??
--- Why does Notre Dame have one loss and a bye week but still remains in the Top 10??
--- What kind of drugs are the "62 sportswriters and broadcasters" taking that compile the AP Poll??
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
They havent missed a bowl game in that time so that makes sense. Up until Venables took over they never had a losing season either. They basically were winning 11 or 12 games every year and he came in and has 2 6 win seasons in 3 years. If he cant get to 8 or 9 at least this year its time to get rid of him.
They go to South Carolina, Bama and Tennessee, Texas is a neutral game in Dallas. Missouri, Ole Miss, and LSU are home games. Auburns a home game as well.
Manning hasnt shown me anything yet to believe in him, and Bama has a coach that is to soft for what they should be. Tennessee will be tough as they will probably be a night game where the stadium will be crazy loud
Fire AJ Preller
The polls are usually always ridiculous. They always give the benefit of the doubt to the southern teams. Why? I dont know?
AP top 10
Finally Illinois getting some respect. I would have Oregon at #3 as I think they would beat LSU.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ohio State Buckeyes - National Champions
Ohio State --- overwhelmed an inferior opponent as they should have. To be tested in Week 8.
Penn State --- overwhelmed an inferior opponent as they should have. To be tested vs. Oregon in Week 4.
LSU --- struggled against a weak team after struggling against overrated Clemson. Hard to understand their ranking so high.
Oregon --- overwhelmed an inferior opponent as they should have. To be tested vs. Penn State in Week 4.
Miami (Fla.) --- won a squeaker with Notre Dame and hammered a weak B-CU. The truth comes in the next three weeks.
Georgia --- easily beat one weak opponent and looked so-so against the next. Tennessee will show the real Bulldogs.
Texas --- easily beak a weaker team. Three more weeks till we know the truth about Texas vs. Florida and Oklahoma.
Notre Dame --- idle. It's hard to understand how one loss and one week off equates to staying in the Top 10.
Illinois --- two easy wins over weaker teams. Hard to judge until they get into their Big 10 schedule.
Florida State --- easily beat an overrated Alabama and overwhelmed an inferior East Texas A&M. Here come the Seminoles.
Sometimes I think these Polls are used as a strategic tool to position the teams in the order that the selection committee wants so the game pairings in the playoffs bring the best games. To me that partially explains why LSU is at 3 and Clemson got kicked out of the top 10. Next week, assuming no unforeseen surprises, the positioning will be furthered to get ready for the Week 4 showdown of Oregon vs. Penn State. After that game there will be a shake-up and it will be interesting to see how far the loser falls and how evident bias preferences will be.
Stay tuned.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
While its still too early to tell how good they are, I disagree that Duke is a weak team. Illinois was only favored by 3 points. Duke went 9-4 last year.
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Dukes a borderline bowl game team. Not a trash win but not impressive either.
ND always gets really ranked high from their tv deal. They even get a vote in things thats only their decision like they are a conference
Fire AJ Preller
Dukes a borderline bowl game team
And that proves nothing about how good they might be. A team with a 7-6 record played in a Bowl game last season, Duke is just not very good and just not very strong, they are weak and bad although they still might qualify for a Bowl game.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
I think you guys argue about rankings way too early in the season.
One man's argument is another man's discussion.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
I didnt mean it as a compliment more just of how soft their schedule is that gives them a chance to make the bowl. A good team or a great team should have no problem getting there. I wouldnt be shocked if Tulane beats them and they do have Clemson and GT on the schedule, nut I do think they will go 3-1 maybe even 4-0 in their last four games and I have no faith in UNC to be anything.
NC State is down this year and the ACC gets pretty bad fast outside of the top 5 teams for football. Average team that just needs to find a win if they close out their season like they should
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Any upsets on the way tomorrow?? I expect the Georgia vs. Tennessee game to be a good one with a probably win by the Volunteers. Other than that I think the outcomes of most games will be victory by the favorites. The big news and helpful information will be how easily they win now that conference schedules will start and the cupcake games are over.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Well USF is the only team in the country that has a win against two teams that were ranked when they played. Miami better not be asleep at the wheel. GT has the ability to beat Clemson but I wouldnt bet on that game either way. Same with A&M against ND. Georgia Tenn flip a coin but I think GA wins that
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ND playoff hopes will probably be dead if they lose against A@M.
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I'd love for South Florida to beat Miami, doubt it will happen but they looked pretty good the past 2 games
I'm all about the Volunteers beating Georgia
Indiana started week 3 with an ass-whoopin' of Indiana State 73-0. Still waiting for some team to break the 80 point barrier. There are a couple of good early games, at least they have the potential to be good and might show us something about the rest of the season:
--- Wisconsin vs. 19 Alabama. The 'Tide should win, but will it be a struggle??
--- 12 Clemson vs. Georgia Tech. Are the Tigers a pretender like I think, a loss/close game here could drop them out of the poll.
--- Oklahoma and Oregon should win easily and Michigan is in the same boat as Clemson.
Better games later in the day.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Whatcha think about Georgia vs Tennessee?
My Dawgs are gonna get tested in Tenn today. We looked like crap last week.
A late night 10:30 pm game between 2-0 unranked teams Minnesota vs Cal. I love the sneaky good late night games.
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And Clemson continues to struggle. Their pattern developing in these last two games is to fall behind early and then have to play catch-up. Today vs. Georgia Tech looks like one of those games where the last team with the ball wins.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Eh, Arkansas is really the only game theyre really endanger of losing is Arkansas. Even with a loss to A&M theyre very like going 9-3 at worst
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I like Georgia. Id probably give the edge to Tennessee if it was a night game. Its going to be the first big test for Aguilar and Georgia is a rough introduction to the SEC for a QB coming from App State.
Side note Nico must be must really be regretting his decision by now. Leaving Tenn to make less money to go to a terrible UCLA, pay higher taxes, and get blown out by a terrible New Mexico team at home in from of like 500 people lol
Fire AJ Preller
And Clemson has fallen, in line with what I thought, and has answered my question above: Who will Clemson lose to next?? This all brings up some interesting lines of thought pertaining to LSU.
It was my thinking that Clemson was ranked too high in the initial AP pre-season poll, I believe they were at number 4. This resulted in what many of us saw as SEC bias when LSU vaulted to the 3rd spot based on their defeat of Clemson. In a prior argument, @Basebal21 pressed on the significance of SOS, Strength of Schedule, when determining the poll ranking. I submit now that LSU is overrated, that this Clemson loss should drag them out of the 3rd position.
Thus, the Georgia vs. Tennessee game which is just now getting underway, looms large in the AP poll standings and might actually break the psyche of ESPN, Paul Finnebaum and the legion of SEC loyalists. It is possible though not probable that the top 3 could be from the Big 10, Ohio State/Penn State/Oregon, and based on everything else that happens today we could see the SEC pushed out of the top 5.
Interesting. Clemson will be lucky to stay in the top 25.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Penn State is yet to play a real game including today. We can talk about them when they finally play a real game, Oregon hasnt played a real game either, Northwestern and Oklahoma State are trash
Fire AJ Preller
Clemson!
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
So Georgia "held serve" against Tennessee. Since I wasn't watching the game someone would have to explain the end of regulation, how Tennessee managed to drive down to the Georgia 25 with 3 TO's and failed to win. What the heck happened down there??
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
They missed a 40 something yard field goal with 7 seconds left. Georgia got the ball back with three seconds and took a knee to send it to OT. Tennessee got a FG in OT and Georgia got a TD on two plays to win
Fire AJ Preller
That's it? Big bad Ohio State up only 13 - 3 vs Ohio University at the half?????
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
Ohio got destroyed in the 2nd half as Julian Sayin threw some great TD passes, and Jeremiah Smith was unstoppable the entire game. Ohio is no cupcake. They beat West Virginia last week, and are the favorites to win the MAC conference.
Vanderbilt upsets SEC power #11 ranked South Carolina 31-7.
I heard many Clemson fans refused to watch their team today, upset at the university over the Clemson professors who bashed Charlie Kirk. One got suspended earlier today.
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I liked the Aggies/ND ending.
Pavia pulls out one big upset a year, but the bigger story is South Carolina lost Sellers early in the game to injury. They dont have QB depth and certainly arent an SEC powerhouse unless youre talking baseball. If Sellers is on the field theyre a very good team, if not theyre going to have a long season
Hopefully Anderson for A&M will be back as well after being carted off the field in a stretcher in their game against ND
Fire AJ Preller
Apparently the voters must think South Carolina is a powerhouse. They are ranked in the top 10 in the coaches poll, so I would consider the loss a pretty big upset.
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Ohio State dominated their in-state rival, don't be fooled by the points because they just didn't score a TD on every trip down the field. They outgained the Bobcats 572-181, settled for three FG's and Sayin threw 2 INT's.
Looks like a shake-up in the top 10 with the Notre Dame loss. Also, the loss by Clemson and less than dominant performances by both Texas and LSU should cause some rethinking about their positions. Both teams won but their margins of victory over unranked teams should cast doubt on how good they really are. Couple that with the OT win by Georgia.
Ohio State
Penn State
Oregon
Miami (Fla.)
LSU
Texas
Georgia
Illinois
Oklahoma
Florida State
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Pre season polls had ND how high? Now at 0-2 they will be unranked.
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Don't be surprised if they hang around the 25 or 24 spot, they shouldn't but it won't surprise me
As I said, they are very good when Sellers is healthy. Sellers got hurt very early in the game and they played with their crappy backup QB
Coaches dont even make those votes some assistant does, but either way when the vote happened Sellers was healthy
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Theyll be in the teens. 8 losing to 16 by 1 point isnt going to send their rankings into a tail spin, especially not ND who always gets a couple spots from their TV deal
Fire AJ Preller
Can we just go ahead and get rid of the AP poll already. We already know that most of the beat writers only watch the team theyre covering and one of them said the quiet part outloud that she doesnt think her vote matters last week.
Penn State hasnt played a team that could even win the HS national championship and remains at 2. Meanwhile South Carolina drops out from 11 from one loss, Georgia beats number 15 on the road and only moves to 5.
Im not a ND fan by any means but them dropping to 24 is a joke. They lost to a top 10 eam in Miami by 3 points, and by 1 point to the number 16th ranked team. Theyres several teams ranked above them they would beat like Michigan, Indiana, GT, Iowa State, Illinois, they should have been n the mid to upper teens.
Which ND is now the poster child for everything wrong with the AP poll. Yes their schedule overall is weak, but theyre being punished for playing 2 top teams. Meanwhile PSU is getting rewarded for playing three teams that have less talent than Mater Dei or Bishop Gorman, or IMG ect
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Penn State hasnt played a team that could even win the HS national championship and remains at 2.
And this is a gross exaggeration for effect, but good.
The same could really be said of LSU. They beat the vastly overrated and fading from sight Clemson Tigers along with the mighty Louisiana Tech Bulldogs to set-up next weeks showdown with powerhouse Southeastern Louisiana Lions. The difference in LSU and Penn State, while they were both playing weak and unranked teams, is that one appeared to struggle with really beating weaker opponents while the other thrashed their weaker opponents.
The point is simple: the better teams are going to play vastly inferior teams, that isn't the point. What matters is how they defeat them.
As for Notre Dame, they are a victim of a poor pre-season Poll rank just like Clemson was. Neither team should have been in the top 10 to start and now the poll is readjusting to show their relative strength. Clemson is already out and has a ton of work to do to earn their way into the top 25. Notre Dame is much the same, unless they get busy fast to fix things they'll be out and have the same road ahead to become relevant again.
The question of Penn State/Oregon being where they are will be answered in a few weeks.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin