I'm sure Saban is sitting wherever he's sitting and wondering two things: How is his good buddy Bill Belichick coaching in the NCAA and he's retired, how can he get back to Alabama and save the program.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Saban has no interest in coaching anymore. Hes probably thinking about his next fishing trip or vacation and loving that he works a couple hours a week making millions. He could have had that Bama job for life and just didnt want to spend the rest of his life putting in the hours it takes to be a college coach now.
Bama fans hope hell come back but he wont. Bills only coaching because of his GF whose trying to trademark the term gold digger. Hes going to be a disaster at UNC. Hes got a really really soft schedule this year with Clemson being the first real test in weak 5. TCU is expected to be an average team a best for the game tomorrow
Been waiting for the Poll to come out armed with the realization that these don't really carry the importance of years past. In today's NCAA playoff world it's almost like the High School voting for prom queen, little more than a popularity contest. So it is with amusement that I see some of the early Week 2 listings from the off-beat pollsters. They seem to carry the SEC bias to ridiculous levels and use convoluted logic and computer reasoning to achieve silly results. My favorite so far is the one which had previous Number 9 LSU ranked in the top spot. Another had recently defeated Texas remaining atop the poll ahead of Number 2 Georgia. When I saw that I quit looking!!
I hadn't posted the thought earlier in the thread, but I have always presumed the previous year's Champion should remain as the Number 1 until they are defeated. Currently I will add to that: the previous years playoff teams and bracket winners are also due consideration until they prove they are unworthy by losing, especially to an inferior, and God forbid, unranked team. An example of this is that some of those offbeat polls have teams like Alabama, LSU and Clemson ahead of Penn State who played in last year's semi-final game. Clemson lost in the 1st round, the other's couldn't even make the expanded playoff.
But I expect this. The Finebaum wannabe's somehow lose objectivity and get lost somewhere between preaching to the choir and whistling past the graveyard. So I will wait for the AP Poll to come out but I will give my Top 10 prediction, not based on any bias but only the performance on the field.
1-2 --- Penn State or Ohio State. If the voters give deference to the opponent it will be OSU, if the scores are more important it'll be Penn State at the top.
3 --- Georgia.
4 --- Oregon.
5 --- LSU.
6 --- Notre Dame.
7 ---Texas.
8 --- Illinois.
9 --- Clemson.
10--- Arizona State.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Guaranteed those off pollsters will not be right. OSU will be 1 and LSU will be ahead of Oregon who played no one if the polls are actually based on what happened. Oregon did nothing to move up playing a nobody
1 lost to 3 theyre staying top 5. LSU and Clemson at best will flip positions. Illinois played a no one they arent jumping 4 spots neither is Oregon for playing no one.
ND and Miami havent even played which just shows how dumb of a list it is
I'm a casual NCAA football watcher - focusing mainly on UGA and U of MN.
So for me to watch the majority of the TX/OSU game yesterday was a bit of a stretch.
I just don't understand how Texas is the #1 team with a Heisman favorite with such a thin resume'.
Those that watch a lot more than me, what happened to TX's offense:
A great defense
A poor offensive game called by Sarkasian
Arch Manning isn't that good
While it may be a combo, I think Manning is underwhelming. Overhype & who in the big media is going to rip into him with the Manning Brothers employed by ESPN/Disney?
@estang said:
I'm a casual NCAA football watcher - focusing mainly on UGA and U of MN.
So for me to watch the majority of the TX/OSU game yesterday was a bit of a stretch.
I just don't understand how Texas is the #1 team with a Heisman favorite with such a thin resume'.
Those that watch a lot more than me, what happened to TX's offense:
A great defense
A poor offensive game called by Sarkasian
Arch Manning isn't that good
While it may be a combo, I think Manning is underwhelming. Overhype & who in the big media is going to rip into him with the Manning Brothers employed by ESPN/Disney?
Manning was only a Heisman favorite because of his last name and the talent around him.
The TX offense went to crap simply because Manning was off target on almost 40 percent of his passes and the coaching staff didnt trust him and he proved why they dont.
Eli is over hyped too because of the last name of every one thinking theyre another Peyton and they arent. But the Manning QB award watch list as bad as it was had like 20 qbs on it and they left Archie off the list.
Only a complete idiot would vote Penn State over Ohio State for #1. To be the champs, you have to beat the champs. Last time Penn State beat Ohio State - 2016.
Convicts beat the Catholics last night. Sorry Notre Dame.
@perkdog said:
Miami looked ok, Carson Beck surprised me a little
I find it weird that Notre Dame doesn't give Love more carries,he is a stud
Beck is very good. Part of his struggles last year were that GA was one of the leaders in dropped passes. As good as they were at every position they were lacking at WR.
For Love he may not be 100 percent from the injury last year but Ive never really been impressed by Freeman anyways, they cant even get 11 guys on the field for a final play of the game against OSU.
They probably were scared of Miamis D line which they should have been, but they did spend a lot of the game down two scores where they wanted to pass it
Further proof that it was Tom Brady and not Bill Belichick. In retrospect, Belichick probably owes his eventual entrance to the NFL HOF to that hit by Mo Lewis on Drew Bledsoe. Perhaps it would be fitting if Lewis were the one to introduce him.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
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1-2 --- Penn State or Ohio State
3 --- Georgia.
4 --- Oregon.
5 --- LSU.
6 --- Notre Dame.
7 ---Texas.
8 --- Illinois.
9 --- Clemson.
10--- Arizona State.
1 Ohio State --- the OSU win's "bigness" depends on what Texas does from now on.
2 Penn State
3 LSU --- my hunch is that Clemson was over-ranked to start, after a few weeks the win may not seem so big.
4 Georgia
5 Miami
6 Oregon
7 Texas
8 Clemson
9 Notre Dame
10 South Carolina
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
What a surprise, LSU, Miami, GA all ahead of Oregon and Illinois not top 10 lol. Texas should have stayed ahead of Oregon or just played a high school caliber team like they did but Archie was trash
@coolstanley, we'll have to wait a few weeks to see how good last weeks winners/losers really are. Is Ohio State really the best team in the country or was Texas overrated?? Was Clemson really a number 4 preseason team, or do they suck and LSU beat a cupcake?? Georgia, Penn State and Oregon played pushovers so we don't really know how good they are. And what about Notre Dame?? I suspect they'll regroup and be in the mix soon.
Two teams we'll get an early read on are playing today, Michigan vs. Oklahoma. The other game that interests me is The Little Sisters Of The Poor vs. Alabama which should go a little bit of the way to tell us exactly how bad the Crimson Tide is this year. That will be a riled up crowd in Tuscaloosa!!!
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
--- Texas rebounded nicely, Manning with 4 TD's/1 Int. Probably means it was the OSU defense.
--- Illinois an easy winner over Duke.
--- After putting away Alabama last week it seems the Seminoles wanted to impress the voters --- 77 points!!!
--- Georgia not doing much against the mighty Governors of Austin Peay, up 14-3 at the half.
--- Oregon looking the same against the Cowboys of Oklahoma State, up 13-0 at the half.
--- Ohio State just starting against Grambling, up 21-0 in the first quarter.
--- Clemson trailing Troy 7-0 in a game that's delayed at 10:43 of the first quarter due to lightening.
Games later tonight will be LSU, Miami, Arizona State, South Carolina and Michigan vs Oklahoma.
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I am asking because there was a call at the outset of the 3rd quarter. Illini leading 14-13, Duke holds Illinois and on a 4th and 5 play, Duke got a flag as two of their special teams players had the same jersey number. So that penalty gave Illinois a first down and they score a TD and Duke basically lost the short-lived momentum they had.
So how many of you have ever seen this type of equipment violation and penalty called before?
I am trying to recall if I have ever seen this happen.
Illinois played an excellent second half but their offensive line and running game needs work if they plan to have a special season.
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I would have to think there are equipment violations often but they aren't seen by the refs. With the play as you described it, how can the officials NOT call that?? It's pretty flagrant and I have never seen it before.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
I am asking because there was a call at the outset of the 3rd quarter. Illini leading 14-12, Duke holds Illinois and on a 4th and 5 play, Duke got a flag as two of their special teams players had the same jersey number. So that penalty gave Illinois a first down and they score a TD and Duke basically lost the short-lived momentum they had.
So how many of you have ever seen this type of equipment violation and penalty called before?
I am trying to recall if I have ever seen this happen.
Illinois played an excellent second half but their offensive line and running game needs work if they plan to have a special season.
While the same number penalty isnt frequent, it happens far more than it should. Ive never really understood why it matters so much other than for jersey sales, but special teams guys wearing two jerseys and multiple numbers is pretty common.
People arent buying those jerseys lol. It is the one penalty that gets called every time though. Duke really just forgot that theres 4 quarters and got out scored 31-6 or something like that in the second half. Theyre not terrible but they arent very good either
In the 80s we had a couple guys that switched jerseys when they played O/D both sides positions during games. Certain numbers could only play this or that. Didn't think that was still a thing. This was high school ball....
I agree that the call had to be made... I just don't recall ever seeing this happen before. It really created a change in momentum in the game, and it all went downhill for Duke after that misstep.
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I agree that the call had to be made... I just don't recall ever seeing this happen before. It really created a change in momentum in the game, and it all went downhill for Duke after that misstep.
Looks to me just from today's games that both Clemson and LSU are overrated and sitting too high in the poll. Georgia also seems to have been tested by an inept opponent and next week plays Tennessee. I wonder how these weak showings will play out in Sunday's poll?
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
@Maywood said:
Looks to me just from today's games that both Clemson and LSU are overrated and sitting too high in the poll. Georgia also seems to have been tested by an inept opponent and next week plays Tennessee. I wonder how these weak showings will play out in Sunday's poll?
Clemson has not looked good. They were down today 16-0. Good thing they were playing at home. Good to see Michigan go down, though not a surprise as Oklahoma was favored at home, going up against a true freshman QB. Looking at Oklahoma's schedule, I will predict right now they will not make the playoffs.
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I'm sure Saban is sitting wherever he's sitting and wondering two things: How is his good buddy Bill Belichick coaching in the NCAA and he's retired, how can he get back to Alabama and save the program.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Saban has no interest in coaching anymore. Hes probably thinking about his next fishing trip or vacation and loving that he works a couple hours a week making millions. He could have had that Bama job for life and just didnt want to spend the rest of his life putting in the hours it takes to be a college coach now.
Bama fans hope hell come back but he wont. Bills only coaching because of his GF whose trying to trademark the term gold digger. Hes going to be a disaster at UNC. Hes got a really really soft schedule this year with Clemson being the first real test in weak 5. TCU is expected to be an average team a best for the game tomorrow
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Been waiting for the Poll to come out armed with the realization that these don't really carry the importance of years past. In today's NCAA playoff world it's almost like the High School voting for prom queen, little more than a popularity contest. So it is with amusement that I see some of the early Week 2 listings from the off-beat pollsters. They seem to carry the SEC bias to ridiculous levels and use convoluted logic and computer reasoning to achieve silly results. My favorite so far is the one which had previous Number 9 LSU ranked in the top spot. Another had recently defeated Texas remaining atop the poll ahead of Number 2 Georgia. When I saw that I quit looking!!
I hadn't posted the thought earlier in the thread, but I have always presumed the previous year's Champion should remain as the Number 1 until they are defeated. Currently I will add to that: the previous years playoff teams and bracket winners are also due consideration until they prove they are unworthy by losing, especially to an inferior, and God forbid, unranked team. An example of this is that some of those offbeat polls have teams like Alabama, LSU and Clemson ahead of Penn State who played in last year's semi-final game. Clemson lost in the 1st round, the other's couldn't even make the expanded playoff.
But I expect this. The Finebaum wannabe's somehow lose objectivity and get lost somewhere between preaching to the choir and whistling past the graveyard. So I will wait for the AP Poll to come out but I will give my Top 10 prediction, not based on any bias but only the performance on the field.
1-2 --- Penn State or Ohio State. If the voters give deference to the opponent it will be OSU, if the scores are more important it'll be Penn State at the top.
3 --- Georgia.
4 --- Oregon.
5 --- LSU.
6 --- Notre Dame.
7 ---Texas.
8 --- Illinois.
9 --- Clemson.
10--- Arizona State.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Guaranteed those off pollsters will not be right. OSU will be 1 and LSU will be ahead of Oregon who played no one if the polls are actually based on what happened. Oregon did nothing to move up playing a nobody
Fire AJ Preller
And LSU "squeaked" by an over-ranked Clemson., but your SEC bias is clear.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
1 lost to 3 theyre staying top 5. LSU and Clemson at best will flip positions. Illinois played a no one they arent jumping 4 spots neither is Oregon for playing no one.
ND and Miami havent even played which just shows how dumb of a list it is
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I'm a casual NCAA football watcher - focusing mainly on UGA and U of MN.
So for me to watch the majority of the TX/OSU game yesterday was a bit of a stretch.
I just don't understand how Texas is the #1 team with a Heisman favorite with such a thin resume'.
Those that watch a lot more than me, what happened to TX's offense:
While it may be a combo, I think Manning is underwhelming. Overhype & who in the big media is going to rip into him with the Manning Brothers employed by ESPN/Disney?
Erik
Manning was only a Heisman favorite because of his last name and the talent around him.
The TX offense went to crap simply because Manning was off target on almost 40 percent of his passes and the coaching staff didnt trust him and he proved why they dont.
Eli is over hyped too because of the last name of every one thinking theyre another Peyton and they arent. But the Manning QB award watch list as bad as it was had like 20 qbs on it and they left Archie off the list.
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geez what took them so long
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Miami sure is allergic to holding leads but beats ND.
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"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
Only a complete idiot would vote Penn State over Ohio State for #1. To be the champs, you have to beat the champs. Last time Penn State beat Ohio State - 2016.
Convicts beat the Catholics last night. Sorry Notre Dame.
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Miami looked ok, Carson Beck surprised me a little
I find it weird that Notre Dame doesn't give Love more carries,he is a stud
Beck is very good. Part of his struggles last year were that GA was one of the leaders in dropped passes. As good as they were at every position they were lacking at WR.
For Love he may not be 100 percent from the injury last year but Ive never really been impressed by Freeman anyways, they cant even get 11 guys on the field for a final play of the game against OSU.
They probably were scared of Miamis D line which they should have been, but they did spend a lot of the game down two scores where they wanted to pass it
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Corso >>> Finebaum
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
That woulda been a handsome parlay 😅
btw Paul Finebaum picked UNC over TCU
can someone please take the mic away from that guy
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Didnt know anyone even paid attention to him.
But speaking of TCU UNC how in the world did Lopez win the job over Johnson
Neither are great but if Johnson is healthy enough to play which he clearly is hes much better than Lopez
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Bill Belichick with an interview at Foxboro high school this week.
First game but didn't look good for Hoodie
TCU 48.
UNC 14.
Further proof that it was Tom Brady and not Bill Belichick. In retrospect, Belichick probably owes his eventual entrance to the NFL HOF to that hit by Mo Lewis on Drew Bledsoe. Perhaps it would be fitting if Lewis were the one to introduce him.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Fact
1-2 --- Penn State or Ohio State
3 --- Georgia.
4 --- Oregon.
5 --- LSU.
6 --- Notre Dame.
7 ---Texas.
8 --- Illinois.
9 --- Clemson.
10--- Arizona State.
1 Ohio State --- the OSU win's "bigness" depends on what Texas does from now on.
2 Penn State
3 LSU --- my hunch is that Clemson was over-ranked to start, after a few weeks the win may not seem so big.
4 Georgia
5 Miami
6 Oregon
7 Texas
8 Clemson
9 Notre Dame
10 South Carolina
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
"1 lost to 3 theyre staying top 5"
Guess not!
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
i really hope this comes to fruition
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
TCU 48.
UNC 14.
Well when you're 73 and have a 24 year old girlfriend is your mind really on football?
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
You want to tell a man who's never been wrong that they're wrong? Be my guest... I got popcorn.
What a surprise, LSU, Miami, GA all ahead of Oregon and Illinois not top 10 lol. Texas should have stayed ahead of Oregon or just played a high school caliber team like they did but Archie was trash
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"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
And here we go
Penn State at #2
I'll take it. 😊
Some Guy named "Bom" Trady has transferred to the NC Tar Heels to help Bill Belichick.............
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
If the polls were actually accurate, Illinois would be ahead of the two SC teams(South Carolina, Clemson).
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@coolstanley, we'll have to wait a few weeks to see how good last weeks winners/losers really are. Is Ohio State really the best team in the country or was Texas overrated?? Was Clemson really a number 4 preseason team, or do they suck and LSU beat a cupcake?? Georgia, Penn State and Oregon played pushovers so we don't really know how good they are. And what about Notre Dame?? I suspect they'll regroup and be in the mix soon.
Two teams we'll get an early read on are playing today, Michigan vs. Oklahoma. The other game that interests me is The Little Sisters Of The Poor vs. Alabama which should go a little bit of the way to tell us exactly how bad the Crimson Tide is this year. That will be a riled up crowd in Tuscaloosa!!!
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Drew Allar Will Levis 2.0
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--- Texas rebounded nicely, Manning with 4 TD's/1 Int. Probably means it was the OSU defense.
--- Illinois an easy winner over Duke.
--- After putting away Alabama last week it seems the Seminoles wanted to impress the voters --- 77 points!!!
--- Georgia not doing much against the mighty Governors of Austin Peay, up 14-3 at the half.
--- Oregon looking the same against the Cowboys of Oklahoma State, up 13-0 at the half.
--- Ohio State just starting against Grambling, up 21-0 in the first quarter.
--- Clemson trailing Troy 7-0 in a game that's delayed at 10:43 of the first quarter due to lightening.
Games later tonight will be LSU, Miami, Arizona State, South Carolina and Michigan vs Oklahoma.
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Basically every game on the east coast other than Florida and GT are on lightning delays
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Who watched Illinois - Duke today?
I am asking because there was a call at the outset of the 3rd quarter. Illini leading 14-13, Duke holds Illinois and on a 4th and 5 play, Duke got a flag as two of their special teams players had the same jersey number. So that penalty gave Illinois a first down and they score a TD and Duke basically lost the short-lived momentum they had.
So how many of you have ever seen this type of equipment violation and penalty called before?
I am trying to recall if I have ever seen this happen.
Illinois played an excellent second half but their offensive line and running game needs work if they plan to have a special season.
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I would have to think there are equipment violations often but they aren't seen by the refs. With the play as you described it, how can the officials NOT call that?? It's pretty flagrant and I have never seen it before.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
While the same number penalty isnt frequent, it happens far more than it should. Ive never really understood why it matters so much other than for jersey sales, but special teams guys wearing two jerseys and multiple numbers is pretty common.
People arent buying those jerseys lol. It is the one penalty that gets called every time though. Duke really just forgot that theres 4 quarters and got out scored 31-6 or something like that in the second half. Theyre not terrible but they arent very good either
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In the 80s we had a couple guys that switched jerseys when they played O/D both sides positions during games. Certain numbers could only play this or that. Didn't think that was still a thing. This was high school ball....
no one is ever going to confuse Oklahoma St with being a powerhouse college football program
but they are still a Big 12 school, and they are getting the living shit kicked out of them by Oregon right now
69-3 heading into the 4th
Mike Gundy needs to be dropped from the plane heading back home
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@Maywood
I agree that the call had to be made... I just don't recall ever seeing this happen before. It really created a change in momentum in the game, and it all went downhill for Duke after that misstep.
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It happened to VT last year
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Gundy, Nappier, and DeBoer all need to be fired and Nappier and DeBoer should have been fired last year
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Florida lost a tough one to South Florida
Sec power Florida goes down after being a two touchdown favorite against South Florida.
Michigan State wins in double OT over Boston College 42-40
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Looks to me just from today's games that both Clemson and LSU are overrated and sitting too high in the poll. Georgia also seems to have been tested by an inept opponent and next week plays Tennessee. I wonder how these weak showings will play out in Sunday's poll?
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Georgia and LSU didnt care, they won thats all that matters. Same with Clemson
Oklahoma beat Michigan and if they can figure out how to catch kicks game would have been a blowout. Vandy beat VT and Miss State beat number 12 ASU
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Clemson has not looked good. They were down today 16-0. Good thing they were playing at home. Good to see Michigan go down, though not a surprise as Oklahoma was favored at home, going up against a true freshman QB. Looking at Oklahoma's schedule, I will predict right now they will not make the playoffs.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
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