@galaxy27 said:
the description is weird and confusing, but i am in fact going to stand in front of a train and take the Cubbies in game 1 today
-4095.76
Weird and confusing is probably better than a bet that "Makes Sense"
Hit it Bro!
Just as "there is no crying in baseball" there is no logic in gambling.
Certainly the usual casino games should be avoided like the plague. Even with poker, a game of pure skill, in most casinos such as the 1-2 hold 'em games, the casino rake is way too high for even a top player to make money. However I've watched on Youtube the nosebleed poker games, and some of those top players are obviously making money at it. Especially when some of the players are just business types who have money to burn, and the poker pros eat them alive. It's almost like the business guys are playing with their hole cards face up. It's risk to the top players because some of those business guys could get lucky for a session. So overall there's risk there, but it's not really gambling, because the pros have an edge in the long run way more than the casino rake.
Now we get to sports betting. I've already stated a fair amount about that in this thread. Suffice to say I think there may be opportunity where, especially in live betting, the bettor might have an edge.
A degenerate sitting on his couch, watching TV, and punching in a bet during a game every minute or so, is nothing more than a glutton for punishment. Impossible to win doing that. But take Galaxy's wager. I haven't been following MLB lately for betting calls, I'll resume that when football season begins. However when I saw the bet, it quickly jumped out at me. In my opinion there were a good number of reasons why that approximate 65% return, seemed to be highly in the bettor's favor. Due to a number of interesting circumstances. The key is does any player have the discipline to wait for possibly days or weeks, for an opportunity like that to arise? Certainly DK and FD have made billions, depending on players who don't have that sort of patience.
I'm still amazed at the seemingly endless number of bets available, just in one game. Gambling addict heaven for sure. LOL
@galaxy27 said:
btw here's a tweet from Philip back in March that didn't exactly age like a fine wine 🍾
From what I have read, Phil was not much of a successful gambler, what with millions in losses, so his prediction would seem to reflect this.
Around 20 years ago I was told by a very dependable source involved in the industry, who I happened to meet and know from internet chat, that Mickelson owed the casinos 9 million dollars. I'm not sure if the exact figure ever came out publicly, but the "millions" you mentioned which has been out there for a long time, makes the 9 million figure seem completely credible. Why shouldn't the casinos extend him that sort of credit, as Mickelson was one of the top golfers back then.
first and foremost, i just want to say how epic has thread been? perk's legendary creation commenced on 9/21/22. almost THREE years later and we're still going strong.
since that time....
my high point, which seems like a distant memory, like from here to Neptune distant, was +1881.28 on 3/17/23
a little over a year later i reached my low point, which was -5517.92 on 4/2/25
hovering around -4k as i type this
the glass half-empty approach is that i urinated over 7k in a year's time
the glass half-full approach is that i've made roughly 1.5k since the Masters
i'm going to train my itty-bitty brain to go with the half-full approach
i don't know why i feel this way, but instincts tell me this is going to be a profitable football season. i'm jonesing to carve into my deficit. let's do this!
in the immortal words of stevek, we.....shall......see
Right on cue the 2 players I played last week who tanked,Aberg,Cantlay, are in the top 8 at the end of the first day action. One of my top 10 bets checked in dead last, 4 over. Thankful are no cuts with 3 more days to catch up.
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Right on cue the 2 players I played last week who tanked,Aberg,Cantlay, are in the top 8 at the end of the first day action. One of my top 10 bets checked in dead last, 4 over. Thankful are no cuts with 3 more days to catch up.
i've got one guy T7 and one T20 heading into the weekend
probably the least surprising aspect of this tournament thus far is Tommy Fleetwood tied for the lead after 36
how many times can you bang on the door before it opens ?
Right on cue the 2 players I played last week who tanked,Aberg,Cantlay, are in the top 8 at the end of the first day action. One of my top 10 bets checked in dead last, 4 over. Thankful are no cuts with 3 more days to catch up.
i've got one guy T7 and one T20 heading into the weekend
probably the least surprising aspect of this tournament thus far is Tommy Fleetwood tied for the lead after 36
how many times can you bang on the door before it opens ?
We have seen Tommy do this scenario many times over. Reminds me of horse racing where a horse continues in the bridesmaid roll with 2nd/3rd itis. They are always due. I hope he does get his win eventually. You have to admire his tenacity. He never quits and keeps trying despite the many disappointments.
And when the win does come,hopefully winning isn't "fleeting" for Fleetwood.
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my dad's favorite modern golfer is Tommy Fleetwood. i always found that interesting and i never really knew why. any time we go to a tournament and he's in the field, my dad wants to follow him. any time he's in contention, which has been countless times, i get a text. so close but no cigar so many times..........until yesterday. if you're going to come up painfully short innumerable times only to finally break through wayyyyy down the line, the Tour Championship is a good one to get off the schneid with. dude is a symbol of resilience.
after he won i finally asked my dad why he likes him: "the way he comports himself. adversity has never once altered who he is."
a more popular victory you'll be hard-pressed to find. tons of tweets from other athletes.
Been looking at the NFL week 1 lines. Nothing really jumps out at me as a good play. And of course no form yet to handicap from.
As we all know, pre-season results are beyond useless when it comes to predicting week 1 outcomes.
There are a few dog with fleas teams that are lower in odds than perhaps they should be. But as mentioned in another thread, sometimes these dog with fleas teams step-up in week 1 and also maybe week 2 for various reasons. Before they wonder off into never never land in the standings. The bookies know this and set the lines accordingly.
I believe I heard that the Royals were one of a few teams which strike out fewer than the Brewers during a broadcast.... Thanks Rock!
I wasn't sure so I looked it up and Royals do have 2nd fewest. I feel like that bet is more of a coin-flip than the odds show. Is that a good bet? No judgement. I reiterate that I'm sports-betting ignorant.
My buddy dropped a bomb on this kid for tonight's game, he follows him since he is from Massachusetts
Of course I had to put the bet in for him since he is banned for life from the local
casino 😂😂😂
Very interesting, I'll be tuning in to the game, rooting for him.
I guess I shouldn't ask, okay to ignore, but in a nutshell what the yell did he do? I don't know of anyone who got banned. Not pay his markers?
My buddy is a 6'2 300 pound dude, I've known him since we were kids, he has slowed down his drinking and is doing well however for a long time he would crush vodka drinks and hydrate with Coors lights or drink roughly 30 Coors lights when he wanted to give the vodka "A break" he gets loud and boisterous and if you didn't know him some guys might get a little intimidated lol, I'm close with him and he really isn't as tough as he acts or presents himself it's just appearance but he does have a switch that flips and he gets a little out of control, I've had some pretty good arguments with him at my home poker games but I'm not afraid of him and that solves 99% of the problem so it doesn't get stupid lol
The local casino where we all go he would get shattered and be himself, loud and obnoxious, the security guys were all afraid of him lol, they progressively let him get more and more crazy in there and didn't want to deal with him so they let a lot slide which was a bad move on their part but like I said he is a 300 pound dude and they literally were afraid of him.
Well one night he got into an argument with a player at the poker table and grabbed his chips and smashed them into the auto shuffler and broke it, hence the lifetime ban, I wasn't there to see what happened but that's it in a nutshell
Apparently those auto shuffler are like 5k or something idk
That's him Thanksgiving night a couple years ago 😂😂😂
@bgr said:
I believe I heard that the Royals were one of a few teams which strike out fewer than the Brewers during a broadcast.... Thanks Rock!
I wasn't sure so I looked it up and Royals do have 2nd fewest. I feel like that bet is more of a coin-flip than the odds show. Is that a good bet? No judgement. I reiterate that I'm sports-betting ignorant.
Damn, I'm sure he looked all that up. but he follows this kid so maybe he had a hunch idk, I hope he hits it
Regarding if it's a good bet or not I am in line with your coin flip comment honestly because all sports bets basically are
He was talking about getting positive odds by betting over 4.5 k's but I told him he should buy the hook which was the point five, so if he gets 4k's he will at least get his money back and he agreed to play it safer
My buddy dropped a bomb on this kid for tonight's game, he follows him since he is from Massachusetts
Of course I had to put the bet in for him since he is banned for life from the local
casino 😂😂😂
Very interesting, I'll be tuning in to the game, rooting for him.
I guess I shouldn't ask, okay to ignore, but in a nutshell what the yell did he do? I don't know of anyone who got banned. Not pay his markers?
My buddy is a 6'2 300 pound dude, I've known him since we were kids, he has slowed down his drinking and is doing well however for a long time he would crush vodka drinks and hydrate with Coors lights or drink roughly 30 Coors lights when he wanted to give the vodka "A break" he gets loud and boisterous and if you didn't know him some guys might get a little intimidated lol, I'm close with him and he really isn't as tough as he acts or presents himself it's just appearance but he does have a switch that flips and he gets a little out of control, I've had some pretty good arguments with him at my home poker games but I'm not afraid of him and that solves 99% of the problem so it doesn't get stupid lol
The local casino where we all go he would get shattered and be himself, loud and obnoxious, the security guys were all afraid of him lol, they progressively let him get more and more crazy in there and didn't want to deal with him so they let a lot slide which was a bad move on their part but like I said he is a 300 pound dude and they literally were afraid of him.
Well one night he got into an argument with a player at the poker table and grabbed his chips and smashed them into the auto shuffler and broke it, hence the lifetime ban, I wasn't there to see what happened but that's it in a nutshell
Apparently those auto shuffler are like 5k or something idk
That's him Thanksgiving night a couple years ago 😂😂😂
Oh chit. That explains it. Geez.
I used to play in a neighborhood poker game that had a player such as that. Tough guy, used to be in the Coast Guard. He used to try and intimidate me at the table when we first began playing together. However he quickly learned that wasn't going to happen. We actually became friends. But he was a poor poker player, and easy pickins. I think he just enjoyed our company at the table. Didn't seem to care much about losing his money.
True story as he told it. One time out at sea, he and his close friend, both in the Coast Guard, boarded a ship, full of drugs. Long story short, one of the vermin pulls a gun and shoots his close friend who died from the wound. The poker player drew his gun, shot and killed the vermin. But to the day he died, the poker player mourned that he didn't draw his gun quicker to save his buddy's life. He used to bring a full bottle of Ouzo to the game, give all the players a shot, and then he'd consume the entire bottle. Sometimes he'd go back to his car, grab another bottle, and do the same. He wasn't shy talking about that he drowned himself in liquor trying to erase the memory of that fateful day, blaming himself. We all told him many times it wasn't his fault, and he didn't mind us saying that. But still he always said that he should have reacted quicker. The sad news is one day the police found him dead in his apartment. Very likely from alcohol poisoning although his Mom didn't want to disclose the cause of death. I'm guessing he couldn't have been more than 35 years old. RIP old friend.
My buddy dropped a bomb on this kid for tonight's game, he follows him since he is from Massachusetts
Of course I had to put the bet in for him since he is banned for life from the local
casino 😂😂😂
Very interesting, I'll be tuning in to the game, rooting for him.
I guess I shouldn't ask, okay to ignore, but in a nutshell what the yell did he do? I don't know of anyone who got banned. Not pay his markers?
My buddy is a 6'2 300 pound dude, I've known him since we were kids, he has slowed down his drinking and is doing well however for a long time he would crush vodka drinks and hydrate with Coors lights or drink roughly 30 Coors lights when he wanted to give the vodka "A break" he gets loud and boisterous and if you didn't know him some guys might get a little intimidated lol, I'm close with him and he really isn't as tough as he acts or presents himself it's just appearance but he does have a switch that flips and he gets a little out of control, I've had some pretty good arguments with him at my home poker games but I'm not afraid of him and that solves 99% of the problem so it doesn't get stupid lol
The local casino where we all go he would get shattered and be himself, loud and obnoxious, the security guys were all afraid of him lol, they progressively let him get more and more crazy in there and didn't want to deal with him so they let a lot slide which was a bad move on their part but like I said he is a 300 pound dude and they literally were afraid of him.
Well one night he got into an argument with a player at the poker table and grabbed his chips and smashed them into the auto shuffler and broke it, hence the lifetime ban, I wasn't there to see what happened but that's it in a nutshell
Apparently those auto shuffler are like 5k or something idk
That's him Thanksgiving night a couple years ago 😂😂😂
Oh chit. That explains it. Geez.
I used to play in a neighborhood poker game that had a player such as that. Tough guy, used to be in the Coast Guard. He used to try and intimidate me at the table when we first began playing together. However he quickly learned that wasn't going to happen. We actually became friends. But he was a poor poker player, and easy pickins. I think he just enjoyed our company at the table. Didn't seem to care much about losing his money.
True story as he told it. One time out at sea, he and his close friend, both in the Coast Guard, boarded a ship, full of drugs. Long story short, one of the vermin pulls a gun and shoots his close friend who died from the wound. The poker player drew his gun, shot and killed the vermin. But to the day he died, the poker player mourned that he didn't draw his gun quicker to save his buddy's life. He used to bring a full bottle of Ouzo to the game, give all the players a shot, and then he'd consume the entire bottle. Sometimes he'd go back to his car, grab another bottle, and do the same. He wasn't shy talking about that he drowned himself in liquor trying to erase the memory of that fateful day, blaming himself. We all told him many times it wasn't his fault, and he didn't mind us saying that. But still he always said that he should have reacted quicker. The sad news is one day the police found him dead in his apartment. Very likely from alcohol poisoning although his Mom didn't want to disclose the cause of death. I'm guessing he couldn't have been more than 35 years old. RIP old friend.
Tough loss but like @bgr pointed out the Royals don't k a whole lot, but if you can get 3 you can get 4 but a few double plays and 2 strike balls in play destroys the bet.
Baseball is tough and betting on how players are gonna perform is even tougher
I read yesterday that if the system employed last year for the fed ex championship was used this year, that Fleetwood won, he would of finished second, with Scottie winning by one -24 to Tommy's -23. Scottie starting at -10 and adding his actual score equally the -24.
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@stevek said:
Better pay them markers if you get 'em. 👮
My debit card withdraw limit is $500 at an ATM and that is the only back up I.bring to a Casino, that way when an ugly drunken casino session happens I wake up. the next day and am happy I only withdrew $500 lol
Casino markets are on a completely different level. and will ruin many a player
@stevek said:
Better pay them markers if you get 'em. 👮
My debit card withdraw limit is $500 at an ATM and that is the only back up I.bring to a Casino, that way when an ugly drunken casino session happens I wake up. the next day and am happy I only withdrew $500 lol
Casino markets are on a completely different level. and will ruin many a player
Gotta be more careful than smart
You are so right. Markers are brutal.
If your credit score is good, casinos will usually give you very liberal credit lines. I had applied for markers, and they were always approved. I figured why not, can't hurt, there's no sign-up cost involved, and maybe the comps would be better if those approving comps, saw the credit line I had. And it probably did improve the comps.
I only used the markers one time, and got stung quite badly from the worst cold streak I ever had at a casino. When I got home, the next morning, I phoned the casino and cancelled all my credit.
The markers actually hit your bank account quickly. I used the markers on a Saturday, and the following Tuesday they hit my bank. Very painful to see the money vanish like that from your bank account. At that point it becomes all too real. It's not some game. When you sign for a marker at the casino game table, it's basically the exact same thing as signing a personal check. It's a legal document just like writing a check, to pay that money.
To all you Pigskin, Prognosticators,Players, Profiteers of Parlays, Point Spreads, may you all enjoy a season of Prolific Profits. And while Pondering and Perusing your weekly Pigskin Picks remember Patience. It's a long season.
Let's get em this year boys.
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@BLUEJAYWAY said:
To all you Pigskin, Prognosticators,Players, Profiteers of Parlays, Point Spreads, may you all enjoy a season of Prolific Profits. And while Pondering and Perusing your weekly Pigskin Picks remember Patience. It's a long season.
Let's get em this year boys.
I don't think the bookies computer picked-up yet that Parsons won't be there on opening day for the Cowboys.
I'm still not calling the game. Bad teams are too volatile on opening day. The Cowboys could collapse in this game, or without Parsons in there, step it up for a game or two?
I'm only familiar with the Caesars and ESPN BET sportsbooks, so maybe this isn't news if you use one of the other platforms, but it's a first for me.
For those of you with a good handle on the scriptwriters' intent for 2025, Caesars Sportsbook currently has every single game on the NFL schedule open for betting on point spreads, moneylines, and the O/U.
I can't recall that I've ever seen that before. Maybe a random "big game" or 2 that's perhaps weeks in the future, but not every game on the schedule.
I then checked ESPN BET. They only have Week 1 games available, along with the handful of International Games this year, as well as the Thanksgiving and Christmas games.
Hmmmm, get your sure things in now, and just stack those Benjis every week.
I don't think the bookies computer picked-up yet that Parsons won't be there on opening day for the Cowboys.
I'm still not calling the game. Bad teams are too volatile on opening day. The Cowboys could collapse in this game, or without Parsons in there, step it up for a game or two?
I'm going to. try my best to stick with the plan that if it makes too much sense I'm going to bet the other way
Or I could just save my sanity, flip. a coin and not even watch and look at the score the next day lol
I don't think the bookies computer picked-up yet that Parsons won't be there on opening day for the Cowboys.
I'm still not calling the game. Bad teams are too volatile on opening day. The Cowboys could collapse in this game, or without Parsons in there, step it up for a game or two?
I'm going to. try my best to stick with the plan that if it makes too much sense I'm going to bet the other way
Or I could just save my sanity, flip. a coin and not even watch and look at the score the next day lol
Reminds me of my early days in my mid-20's when first considering sports betting. I had made very small bets among friends since the 7th grade. But never with a bookie.
In the Philly area, finding a bookie is as easy as spitting out the car window and you'll hit one, they are so easy to find.
Anyway so before I began betting real money on NFL games, I figured I'd put my picks on paper and see what happens. Well I was mainly handicapping based on won-loss records. For example, I figured that say a 6-2 team was better than a 2-6 team which seemed logical. To my knowledge there wasn't any Money Line betting back then, only the spread. So I'd see the lines in the newspaper, looked at the team's records, and placed my bets on paper.
Well long story short, I was losing at a 75% rate, on of course a 50/50 proposition minus the bookies juice. So after around 3 to 4 weeks of doing it, I said F this chit.
I dunno why, but it never occurred to me at the time, to just place bets the opposite way, and then I'd win at a 75% rate. But the illogical part of it didn't make sense, so i just forgot about the whole thing. Until many years later when I had been watching football intensely and knew all the teams and players very well.
I then started betting with a bookie, and still lost money despite all the player and team knowledge I had, but at least I "knew what I was doing." LOL
Hence as mentioned before, this new era of computer betting which I "discovered" about a year ago. It still staggers my mind, all the different bets now available. Some literally second to second throughout a game. And now countdouglas is saying that one book now offers lines on the entire season? It's almost a form of madness, but perhaps a sharp disciplined player could make some money out of all that madness???
@countdouglas said:
I'm only familiar with the Caesars and ESPN BET sportsbooks, so maybe this isn't news if you use one of the other platforms, but it's a first for me.
For those of you with a good handle on the scriptwriters' intent for 2025, Caesars Sportsbook currently has every single game on the NFL schedule open for betting on point spreads, moneylines, and the O/U.
I can't recall that I've ever seen that before. Maybe a random "big game" or 2 that's perhaps weeks in the future, but not every game on the schedule.
I then checked ESPN BET. They only have Week 1 games available, along with the handful of International Games this year, as well as the Thanksgiving and Christmas games.
Hmmmm, get your sure things in now, and just stack those Benjis every week.
That's right, the bookies are making too much money and so they felt guilty about it, and decided to come up with something to give their money away, 🤣
A few quick things on that NFL game, future wagering. I'm not going to elaborate but it seems like that website is for an Indian casino, and you have to be at their physical location to place the bet. I think it's basically a ploy to get you to visit the casino. Then gamble on the other games.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I find it hard to believe they would automatically honor all those future bets. I mean you could see a star QB go down in a game, realize it's probably a season ending injury, and quickly smash those future lines, possibly make a killing, before their computer catches up with everything. I've already thought of some other interesting angles which could provide an edge, sometimes a huge edge to the player. I'd have to believe that casino would simply cancel those wagers, and refund the player. A wasted trip to make the wager, then another wasted trip that ya gotta go back there to collect your own money.
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Certainly the usual casino games should be avoided like the plague. Even with poker, a game of pure skill, in most casinos such as the 1-2 hold 'em games, the casino rake is way too high for even a top player to make money. However I've watched on Youtube the nosebleed poker games, and some of those top players are obviously making money at it. Especially when some of the players are just business types who have money to burn, and the poker pros eat them alive. It's almost like the business guys are playing with their hole cards face up. It's risk to the top players because some of those business guys could get lucky for a session. So overall there's risk there, but it's not really gambling, because the pros have an edge in the long run way more than the casino rake.
Now we get to sports betting. I've already stated a fair amount about that in this thread. Suffice to say I think there may be opportunity where, especially in live betting, the bettor might have an edge.
A degenerate sitting on his couch, watching TV, and punching in a bet during a game every minute or so, is nothing more than a glutton for punishment. Impossible to win doing that. But take Galaxy's wager. I haven't been following MLB lately for betting calls, I'll resume that when football season begins. However when I saw the bet, it quickly jumped out at me. In my opinion there were a good number of reasons why that approximate 65% return, seemed to be highly in the bettor's favor. Due to a number of interesting circumstances. The key is does any player have the discipline to wait for possibly days or weeks, for an opportunity like that to arise? Certainly DK and FD have made billions, depending on players who don't have that sort of patience.
I'm still amazed at the seemingly endless number of bets available, just in one game. Gambling addict heaven for sure. LOL
Tour Championship bets
would love to get this fugliness under 4k heading into football season
-4045.76
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
btw here's a tweet from Philip back in March that didn't exactly age like a fine wine 🍾
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
From what I have read, Phil was not much of a successful gambler, what with millions in losses, so his prediction would seem to reflect this.
Around 20 years ago I was told by a very dependable source involved in the industry, who I happened to meet and know from internet chat, that Mickelson owed the casinos 9 million dollars. I'm not sure if the exact figure ever came out publicly, but the "millions" you mentioned which has been out there for a long time, makes the 9 million figure seem completely credible. Why shouldn't the casinos extend him that sort of credit, as Mickelson was one of the top golfers back then.
I'm not sure at all what is his situation today?
first and foremost, i just want to say how epic has thread been? perk's legendary creation commenced on 9/21/22. almost THREE years later and we're still going strong.
since that time....
my high point, which seems like a distant memory, like from here to Neptune distant, was +1881.28 on 3/17/23
a little over a year later i reached my low point, which was -5517.92 on 4/2/25
hovering around -4k as i type this
the glass half-empty approach is that i urinated over 7k in a year's time
the glass half-full approach is that i've made roughly 1.5k since the Masters
i'm going to train my itty-bitty brain to go with the half-full approach
i don't know why i feel this way, but instincts tell me this is going to be a profitable football season. i'm jonesing to carve into my deficit. let's do this!
in the immortal words of stevek, we.....shall......see
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Tour Championship plays:Win Scottie.Top 10 Hovland,Straka Matchups:Hovland over Thomas,English over McNealy.
Cubs beat the Brewers again today.
Ya just knew the Brewers had to come back, at least somewhat, from that 14 game winning streak.
Right on cue the 2 players I played last week who tanked,Aberg,Cantlay, are in the top 8 at the end of the first day action. One of my top 10 bets checked in dead last, 4 over. Thankful are no cuts with 3 more days to catch up.
i've got one guy T7 and one T20 heading into the weekend
probably the least surprising aspect of this tournament thus far is Tommy Fleetwood tied for the lead after 36
how many times can you bang on the door before it opens ?
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
We sprung for a 50 inch TV today. Now I can watch my bets tank in a larger than life presentation.🏇🏌️🏈
We have seen Tommy do this scenario many times over. Reminds me of horse racing where a horse continues in the bridesmaid roll with 2nd/3rd itis. They are always due. I hope he does get his win eventually. You have to admire his tenacity. He never quits and keeps trying despite the many disappointments.
And when the win does come,hopefully winning isn't "fleeting" for Fleetwood.
Well done Tommy. You earned it.
indeed.
my dad's favorite modern golfer is Tommy Fleetwood. i always found that interesting and i never really knew why. any time we go to a tournament and he's in the field, my dad wants to follow him. any time he's in contention, which has been countless times, i get a text. so close but no cigar so many times..........until yesterday. if you're going to come up painfully short innumerable times only to finally break through wayyyyy down the line, the Tour Championship is a good one to get off the schneid with. dude is a symbol of resilience.
after he won i finally asked my dad why he likes him: "the way he comports himself. adversity has never once altered who he is."
a more popular victory you'll be hard-pressed to find. tons of tweets from other athletes.
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Only thing that could of made it better is if his wife,son,other step son were there to complete the victory ceremony.
Been looking at the NFL week 1 lines. Nothing really jumps out at me as a good play. And of course no form yet to handicap from.
As we all know, pre-season results are beyond useless when it comes to predicting week 1 outcomes.
There are a few dog with fleas teams that are lower in odds than perhaps they should be. But as mentioned in another thread, sometimes these dog with fleas teams step-up in week 1 and also maybe week 2 for various reasons. Before they wonder off into never never land in the standings. The bookies know this and set the lines accordingly.
My buddy dropped a bomb on this kid for tonight's game, he follows him since he is from Massachusetts
Of course I had to put the bet in for him since he is banned for life from the local
casino 😂😂😂
Very interesting, I'll be tuning in to the game, rooting for him.
I guess I shouldn't ask, okay to ignore, but in a nutshell what the yell did he do? I don't know of anyone who got banned. Not pay his markers?
GP 2025 22
K's 2025 102
Averaging 4.6 K's per start
I believe I heard that the Royals were one of a few teams which strike out fewer than the Brewers during a broadcast.... Thanks Rock!
I wasn't sure so I looked it up and Royals do have 2nd fewest. I feel like that bet is more of a coin-flip than the odds show. Is that a good bet? No judgement. I reiterate that I'm sports-betting ignorant.
My buddy is a 6'2 300 pound dude, I've known him since we were kids, he has slowed down his drinking and is doing well however for a long time he would crush vodka drinks and hydrate with Coors lights or drink roughly 30 Coors lights when he wanted to give the vodka "A break" he gets loud and boisterous and if you didn't know him some guys might get a little intimidated lol, I'm close with him and he really isn't as tough as he acts or presents himself it's just appearance but he does have a switch that flips and he gets a little out of control, I've had some pretty good arguments with him at my home poker games but I'm not afraid of him and that solves 99% of the problem so it doesn't get stupid lol
The local casino where we all go he would get shattered and be himself, loud and obnoxious, the security guys were all afraid of him lol, they progressively let him get more and more crazy in there and didn't want to deal with him so they let a lot slide which was a bad move on their part but like I said he is a 300 pound dude and they literally were afraid of him.
Well one night he got into an argument with a player at the poker table and grabbed his chips and smashed them into the auto shuffler and broke it, hence the lifetime ban, I wasn't there to see what happened but that's it in a nutshell
Apparently those auto shuffler are like 5k or something idk
That's him Thanksgiving night a couple years ago 😂😂😂
Damn, I'm sure he looked all that up. but he follows this kid so maybe he had a hunch idk, I hope he hits it
Regarding if it's a good bet or not I am in line with your coin flip comment honestly because all sports bets basically are
He was talking about getting positive odds by betting over 4.5 k's but I told him he should buy the hook which was the point five, so if he gets 4k's he will at least get his money back and he agreed to play it safer
@perkdog
sweating bullets for your buddy over here
1 k thru 4
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Oh chit. That explains it. Geez.
I used to play in a neighborhood poker game that had a player such as that. Tough guy, used to be in the Coast Guard. He used to try and intimidate me at the table when we first began playing together. However he quickly learned that wasn't going to happen. We actually became friends. But he was a poor poker player, and easy pickins. I think he just enjoyed our company at the table. Didn't seem to care much about losing his money.
True story as he told it. One time out at sea, he and his close friend, both in the Coast Guard, boarded a ship, full of drugs. Long story short, one of the vermin pulls a gun and shoots his close friend who died from the wound. The poker player drew his gun, shot and killed the vermin. But to the day he died, the poker player mourned that he didn't draw his gun quicker to save his buddy's life. He used to bring a full bottle of Ouzo to the game, give all the players a shot, and then he'd consume the entire bottle. Sometimes he'd go back to his car, grab another bottle, and do the same. He wasn't shy talking about that he drowned himself in liquor trying to erase the memory of that fateful day, blaming himself. We all told him many times it wasn't his fault, and he didn't mind us saying that. But still he always said that he should have reacted quicker. The sad news is one day the police found him dead in his apartment. Very likely from alcohol poisoning although his Mom didn't want to disclose the cause of death. I'm guessing he couldn't have been more than 35 years old. RIP old friend.
That is an awful story
Very sad to hear
Thanks brother
He has pretty much conceded, he is fine either way
He throws bombs like this every now and then, he is fine, he has extra cash to rip here and there, he is a very smart gambler and doesn't chase losses
Maybe he goes out for the 8th.
Your buddy handicapped it quite well as far as the pitcher's form. Smith threw a superb game, 1 hitter thru 7.
Just couldn't get enough dam k's.
dude gives up 1 hit thru 7 and gets yanked with a 7-run lead with one K for a push
completely agonizing bet
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Tough loss but like @bgr pointed out the Royals don't k a whole lot, but if you can get 3 you can get 4 but a few double plays and 2 strike balls in play destroys the bet.
Baseball is tough and betting on how players are gonna perform is even tougher
Gambling being gambling
I read yesterday that if the system employed last year for the fed ex championship was used this year, that Fleetwood won, he would of finished second, with Scottie winning by one -24 to Tommy's -23. Scottie starting at -10 and adding his actual score equally the -24.
Got a no sweat and a profit boost for Texas vs OSU this weekend, I'm rolling with the Longhorns
OSU lost a ton of players to the draft so I think Texas beats them
@perkdog
and it begins!
gl homie, i may tail on you on the horns
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
It's a great time of year!!
Thanks Bro!!! 🍻
Penn State -44 on Saturday.
That's not a misprint -44
Believe it or not, I think Penn State covers.
So therefore is my first call of the football season. 🏈
NBA Star Marcus Morris Sr. Busted at Airport Over $250K in Casino Debts
Better pay them markers if you get 'em. 👮
My debit card withdraw limit is $500 at an ATM and that is the only back up I.bring to a Casino, that way when an ugly drunken casino session happens I wake up. the next day and am happy I only withdrew $500 lol
Casino markets are on a completely different level. and will ruin many a player
Gotta be more careful than smart
You are so right. Markers are brutal.
If your credit score is good, casinos will usually give you very liberal credit lines. I had applied for markers, and they were always approved. I figured why not, can't hurt, there's no sign-up cost involved, and maybe the comps would be better if those approving comps, saw the credit line I had. And it probably did improve the comps.
I only used the markers one time, and got stung quite badly from the worst cold streak I ever had at a casino. When I got home, the next morning, I phoned the casino and cancelled all my credit.
The markers actually hit your bank account quickly. I used the markers on a Saturday, and the following Tuesday they hit my bank. Very painful to see the money vanish like that from your bank account. At that point it becomes all too real. It's not some game. When you sign for a marker at the casino game table, it's basically the exact same thing as signing a personal check. It's a legal document just like writing a check, to pay that money.
ok perk let's do this 🤘
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you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Nice!!!!
Let's kick off the season the right way, let's get it brother!!!!
To all you Pigskin, Prognosticators,Players, Profiteers of Parlays, Point Spreads, may you all enjoy a season of Prolific Profits. And while Pondering and Perusing your weekly Pigskin Picks remember Patience. It's a long season.
Let's get em this year boys.
I second that!!!!
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Eagles early opened -7
Aa day or two later it was -7.5
I don't think the bookies computer picked-up yet that Parsons won't be there on opening day for the Cowboys.
I'm still not calling the game. Bad teams are too volatile on opening day. The Cowboys could collapse in this game, or without Parsons in there, step it up for a game or two?
I'm only familiar with the Caesars and ESPN BET sportsbooks, so maybe this isn't news if you use one of the other platforms, but it's a first for me.
For those of you with a good handle on the scriptwriters' intent for 2025, Caesars Sportsbook currently has every single game on the NFL schedule open for betting on point spreads, moneylines, and the O/U.
I can't recall that I've ever seen that before. Maybe a random "big game" or 2 that's perhaps weeks in the future, but not every game on the schedule.
I then checked ESPN BET. They only have Week 1 games available, along with the handful of International Games this year, as well as the Thanksgiving and Christmas games.
Hmmmm, get your sure things in now, and just stack those Benjis every week.
I'm going to. try my best to stick with the plan that if it makes too much sense I'm going to bet the other way
Or I could just save my sanity, flip. a coin and not even watch and look at the score the next day lol
Reminds me of my early days in my mid-20's when first considering sports betting. I had made very small bets among friends since the 7th grade. But never with a bookie.
In the Philly area, finding a bookie is as easy as spitting out the car window and you'll hit one, they are so easy to find.
Anyway so before I began betting real money on NFL games, I figured I'd put my picks on paper and see what happens. Well I was mainly handicapping based on won-loss records. For example, I figured that say a 6-2 team was better than a 2-6 team which seemed logical. To my knowledge there wasn't any Money Line betting back then, only the spread. So I'd see the lines in the newspaper, looked at the team's records, and placed my bets on paper.
Well long story short, I was losing at a 75% rate, on of course a 50/50 proposition minus the bookies juice. So after around 3 to 4 weeks of doing it, I said F this chit.
I dunno why, but it never occurred to me at the time, to just place bets the opposite way, and then I'd win at a 75% rate. But the illogical part of it didn't make sense, so i just forgot about the whole thing. Until many years later when I had been watching football intensely and knew all the teams and players very well.
I then started betting with a bookie, and still lost money despite all the player and team knowledge I had, but at least I "knew what I was doing." LOL
Hence as mentioned before, this new era of computer betting which I "discovered" about a year ago. It still staggers my mind, all the different bets now available. Some literally second to second throughout a game. And now countdouglas is saying that one book now offers lines on the entire season? It's almost a form of madness, but perhaps a sharp disciplined player could make some money out of all that madness???
That's right, the bookies are making too much money and so they felt guilty about it, and decided to come up with something to give their money away, 🤣
I found something on the internet - it says Caesars Sportsbook Muckleshoot. Not all all sure what that third word is, perhaps a Caesars location?
In any event, they did have lines on every NFL game this season. Almost hard to believe.
A few quick things on that NFL game, future wagering. I'm not going to elaborate but it seems like that website is for an Indian casino, and you have to be at their physical location to place the bet. I think it's basically a ploy to get you to visit the casino. Then gamble on the other games.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I find it hard to believe they would automatically honor all those future bets. I mean you could see a star QB go down in a game, realize it's probably a season ending injury, and quickly smash those future lines, possibly make a killing, before their computer catches up with everything. I've already thought of some other interesting angles which could provide an edge, sometimes a huge edge to the player. I'd have to believe that casino would simply cancel those wagers, and refund the player. A wasted trip to make the wager, then another wasted trip that ya gotta go back there to collect your own money.