You need to take a couple of new, in focus, pictures of your coin to be able to at least make a reasonable determination if it came from the Mint or counterfeiters. Here is another ‘real’ coin for comparison.
@jfriedm56 said:
You need to take a couple of new, in focus, pictures of your coin to be able to at least make a reasonable determination if it came from the Mint or counterfeiters. Here is another ‘real’ coin for comparison.
You need to take a couple of new, in focus, pictures of your coin to be able to at least make a reasonable determination if it came from the Mint or counterfeiters. Here is another ‘real’ coin for
I don't think we need any better pictures to know it's a copy.
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You need to take a couple of new, in focus, pictures of your coin to be able to at least make a reasonable determination if it came from the Mint or counterfeiters. Here is another ‘real’ coin for
I don't think we need any better pictures to know it's a copy.
For this person's benefit, not ours. We didn't ask the question of it's authenticity. This was just pointed out to help someone else learn who is less knowledgeable than "us"!
First of all, become familiar with what these coins look like. This is an obvious fake by the mirror like fields. Genuine Antietam's don't have proof like fields. There is no left bank to the creek, the bridge just ends before reaching a left bank! Then compare the lettering and digits between the real coins vs the fake, paying attention to the serifs used, spacing, consistency, etc. The "R" in DOLLAR on the fake is ridiculous. The "C" in AMERICA with a weird, inappropriate serif. LIBERTY and IN GOD WE TRUST are a mess. FAKE! FAKE! FAKE!
Why avoid raw commemoratives you asked? Because of the coin you showed here, and the fact that you had to ask if it was real and how we know it's a fake. This coin screams FAKE! to probably everybody here and that should be obvious to you as well. Buy slabbed coins until you learn about the coins you're collecting and can spot fakes reliably.
Sheesh. That may be the worst fake classic commemorative I've seen, complete with the bridge to nowhere.
Just a note from an old timer who has bought a couple of fakes myself. Always compare your purchase(beforehand) to a photo of a known real issue(from CoinFacts, perhaps). I feel most assuredly you will notice differences in the dies and will save you much misery. Even if you get your funds back, the aggravation is not worth it. Seriously, your item has so many keys to IDing the counterfeit, as will most. Notice the textures of the items, even the fields and it is a dead giveaway. Good luck.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
Have seen this same cartoonish design before. Probably similar has been posted here before if the photos aren't gone from older posts.
Wonder if it originated as a pre-Hobby Protection Act museum gift shop copy rather than a recent attempt to deceive. Although looking around the same design appears to now also be used for deceiving.
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If you take a good look at it you can see the coating coming off.
Stick around and dont get discouraged. Most of the people are happy to help you.
Can't beat it, free help into a wonderful hobby!
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@Cougar1978 said:
Antietam Definitely a really neat coin to invest in. But advise avoid raw pieces.
I know I shouldn't be asking this, but why?
Why avoid raw pieces (assuming you half-way know what to look out for)?
Raw pieces especially big ticket coins don’t sell very well - investors want quality Certified Rare Coins / they are afraid of fakes and details coins. Players want TPG graded coins for investment assurance and marketability. Big ticket raw coins a red flag for me / fakes, cleaned, etc.
Years ago a guy offered me a raw $2.50 Indian set - they were fakes. (I have
numerous books on CF). I passed. He shopped them around / no takers. He tried to argue with other players (getting stuffed in the backfield) but next show apologized “you guys were right.”
I don’t buy raw coins unless it’s $25 or lower junk box stuff which I have enough of already.
@Cougar1978 said:
Antietam Definitely a really neat coin to invest in. But advise avoid raw pieces.
I know I shouldn't be asking this, but why?
Why avoid raw pieces (assuming you half-way know what to look out for)?
Raw pieces especially big ticket coins don’t sell very well - investors want quality Certified Rare Coins / they are afraid of fakes and details coins. Players want TPG graded coins for investment assurance and marketability. Big ticket raw coins a red flag for me / fakes, cleaned, etc.
Years ago a guy offered me a raw $2.50 Indian set - they were fakes. (I have
numerous books on CF). I passed. He shopped them around / no takers. He tried to argue with other players (getting stuffed in the backfield) but next show apologized “you guys were right.”
I don’t buy raw coins unless it’s $25 or lower junk box stuff which I have enough of already.
Thanks for taking the time to express your reasoning.
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Sadly, yours is a counterfeit.
A genuine example looks like this:
peacockcoins
try https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts
You need to take a couple of new, in focus, pictures of your coin to be able to at least make a reasonable determination if it came from the Mint or counterfeiters. Here is another ‘real’ coin for comparison.
Nice example, I like 👍
Start with the weight. Yours doesn't look to be silver so the weight will be incorrect.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, evn when irrefutably accurate.
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I don't think we need any better pictures to know it's a copy.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, evn when irrefutably accurate.
For this person's benefit, not ours. We didn't ask the question of it's authenticity. This was just pointed out to help someone else learn who is less knowledgeable than "us"!
Antietam Definitely a really neat coin to invest in. But advise avoid raw pieces.
I know I shouldn't be asking this, but why?
Why avoid raw pieces (assuming you half-way know what to look out for)?
peacockcoins
The weight is 12+ grams
Another pics



Each group of pictures shows that the coin is a copy.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
First of all, become familiar with what these coins look like. This is an obvious fake by the mirror like fields. Genuine Antietam's don't have proof like fields. There is no left bank to the creek, the bridge just ends before reaching a left bank! Then compare the lettering and digits between the real coins vs the fake, paying attention to the serifs used, spacing, consistency, etc. The "R" in DOLLAR on the fake is ridiculous. The "C" in AMERICA with a weird, inappropriate serif. LIBERTY and IN GOD WE TRUST are a mess. FAKE! FAKE! FAKE!
Why avoid raw commemoratives you asked? Because of the coin you showed here, and the fact that you had to ask if it was real and how we know it's a fake. This coin screams FAKE! to probably everybody here and that should be obvious to you as well. Buy slabbed coins until you learn about the coins you're collecting and can spot fakes reliably.
Sheesh. That may be the worst fake classic commemorative I've seen, complete with the bridge to nowhere.
Thank you very much to all of you.
Welcome—thanks for asking here, as well as for your courteous response.
Just a note from an old timer who has bought a couple of fakes myself. Always compare your purchase(beforehand) to a photo of a known real issue(from CoinFacts, perhaps). I feel most assuredly you will notice differences in the dies and will save you much misery. Even if you get your funds back, the aggravation is not worth it. Seriously, your item has so many keys to IDing the counterfeit, as will most. Notice the textures of the items, even the fields and it is a dead giveaway. Good luck.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
Have seen this same cartoonish design before. Probably similar has been posted here before if the photos aren't gone from older posts.
Wonder if it originated as a pre-Hobby Protection Act museum gift shop copy rather than a recent attempt to deceive. Although looking around the same design appears to now also be used for deceiving.
"To Be Esteemed Be Useful" - 1792 Birch Cent --- "I personally think we developed language because of our deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
If you take a good look at it you can see the coating coming off.
Stick around and dont get discouraged. Most of the people are happy to help you.
Can't beat it, free help into a wonderful hobby!
Student of numismatics and collector of Morgan dollars
Successful BST transactions with: Namvet Justindan Mattniss RWW olah_in_MA
Dantheman984 Toyz4geo SurfinxHI greencopper RWW bigjpst bretsan MWallace logger7
Fake
The lettering on the obverse is to funky for my likeing
Warning, not only is yours a counterfeit but the
Chinese have produced counterfeits of this whole
series of the Commemorative Halve Dollars.
Raw pieces especially big ticket coins don’t sell very well - investors want quality Certified Rare Coins / they are afraid of fakes and details coins. Players want TPG graded coins for investment assurance and marketability. Big ticket raw coins a red flag for me / fakes, cleaned, etc.
Years ago a guy offered me a raw $2.50 Indian set - they were fakes. (I have
numerous books on CF). I passed. He shopped them around / no takers. He tried to argue with other players (getting stuffed in the backfield) but next show apologized “you guys were right.”
I don’t buy raw coins unless it’s $25 or lower junk box stuff which I have enough of already.
Thanks for taking the time to express your reasoning.
peacockcoins