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Battle of Antietam half dollar

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how can I know if it's an original coin?


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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Qwaqwe said:
    how can I know if it's an original coin?

    try https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts

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    jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 3,026 ✭✭✭✭✭



    You need to take a couple of new, in focus, pictures of your coin to be able to at least make a reasonable determination if it came from the Mint or counterfeiters. Here is another ‘real’ coin for comparison.

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 32,557 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jfriedm56 said:


    You need to take a couple of new, in focus, pictures of your coin to be able to at least make a reasonable determination if it came from the Mint or counterfeiters. Here is another ‘real’ coin for comparison.

    Nice example, I like 👍

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 41,520 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Start with the weight. Yours doesn't look to be silver so the weight will be incorrect.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

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    jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 3,026 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @jfriedm56 said:

    >

    You need to take a couple of new, in focus, pictures of your coin to be able to at least make a reasonable determination if it came from the Mint or counterfeiters. Here is another ‘real’ coin for

    I don't think we need any better pictures to know it's a copy.

    For this person's benefit, not ours. We didn't ask the question of it's authenticity. This was just pointed out to help someone else learn who is less knowledgeable than "us"!

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    Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 23, 2025 10:16AM

    Antietam Definitely a really neat coin to invest in. But advise avoid raw pieces.

    Investor
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    braddickbraddick Posts: 25,131 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Cougar1978 said:
    Antietam Definitely a really neat coin to invest in. But advise avoid raw pieces.

    I know I shouldn't be asking this, but why?
    Why avoid raw pieces (assuming you half-way know what to look out for)?

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    The weight is 12+ grams

    Another pics


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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,688 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Qwaqwe said:
    The weight is 12+ grams

    Another pics


    Each group of pictures shows that the coin is a copy.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    BarberianBarberian Posts: 4,643 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 24, 2025 2:32AM

    First of all, become familiar with what these coins look like. This is an obvious fake by the mirror like fields. Genuine Antietam's don't have proof like fields. There is no left bank to the creek, the bridge just ends before reaching a left bank! Then compare the lettering and digits between the real coins vs the fake, paying attention to the serifs used, spacing, consistency, etc. The "R" in DOLLAR on the fake is ridiculous. The "C" in AMERICA with a weird, inappropriate serif. LIBERTY and IN GOD WE TRUST are a mess. FAKE! FAKE! FAKE!

    Why avoid raw commemoratives you asked? Because of the coin you showed here, and the fact that you had to ask if it was real and how we know it's a fake. This coin screams FAKE! to probably everybody here and that should be obvious to you as well. Buy slabbed coins until you learn about the coins you're collecting and can spot fakes reliably.

    Sheesh. That may be the worst fake classic commemorative I've seen, complete with the bridge to nowhere.

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    Thank you very much to all of you.

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    CregCreg Posts: 1,669 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 24, 2025 10:02AM

    Welcome—thanks for asking here, as well as for your courteous response.

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 11,213 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just a note from an old timer who has bought a couple of fakes myself. Always compare your purchase(beforehand) to a photo of a known real issue(from CoinFacts, perhaps). I feel most assuredly you will notice differences in the dies and will save you much misery. Even if you get your funds back, the aggravation is not worth it. Seriously, your item has so many keys to IDing the counterfeit, as will most. Notice the textures of the items, even the fields and it is a dead giveaway. Good luck.
    Jim


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    WinLoseWinWinLoseWin Posts: 1,831 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Have seen this same cartoonish design before. Probably similar has been posted here before if the photos aren't gone from older posts.

    Wonder if it originated as a pre-Hobby Protection Act museum gift shop copy rather than a recent attempt to deceive. Although looking around the same design appears to now also be used for deceiving.

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    Morgan13Morgan13 Posts: 2,532 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you take a good look at it you can see the coating coming off.
    Stick around and dont get discouraged. Most of the people are happy to help you.
    Can't beat it, free help into a wonderful hobby!

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    Coins3675Coins3675 Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭✭

    Fake

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 32,557 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The lettering on the obverse is to funky for my likeing

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    GreenstangGreenstang Posts: 1,622 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Warning, not only is yours a counterfeit but the
    Chinese have produced counterfeits of this whole
    series of the Commemorative Halve Dollars.

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    Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 24, 2025 6:28PM

    @braddick said:

    @Cougar1978 said:
    Antietam Definitely a really neat coin to invest in. But advise avoid raw pieces.

    I know I shouldn't be asking this, but why?
    Why avoid raw pieces (assuming you half-way know what to look out for)?

    Raw pieces especially big ticket coins don’t sell very well - investors want quality Certified Rare Coins / they are afraid of fakes and details coins. Players want TPG graded coins for investment assurance and marketability. Big ticket raw coins a red flag for me / fakes, cleaned, etc.

    Years ago a guy offered me a raw $2.50 Indian set - they were fakes. (I have
    numerous books on CF). I passed. He shopped them around / no takers. He tried to argue with other players (getting stuffed in the backfield) but next show apologized “you guys were right.”

    I don’t buy raw coins unless it’s $25 or lower junk box stuff which I have enough of already.

    Investor
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    braddickbraddick Posts: 25,131 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Cougar1978 said:

    @braddick said:

    @Cougar1978 said:
    Antietam Definitely a really neat coin to invest in. But advise avoid raw pieces.

    I know I shouldn't be asking this, but why?
    Why avoid raw pieces (assuming you half-way know what to look out for)?

    Raw pieces especially big ticket coins don’t sell very well - investors want quality Certified Rare Coins / they are afraid of fakes and details coins. Players want TPG graded coins for investment assurance and marketability. Big ticket raw coins a red flag for me / fakes, cleaned, etc.

    Years ago a guy offered me a raw $2.50 Indian set - they were fakes. (I have
    numerous books on CF). I passed. He shopped them around / no takers. He tried to argue with other players (getting stuffed in the backfield) but next show apologized “you guys were right.”

    I don’t buy raw coins unless it’s $25 or lower junk box stuff which I have enough of already.

    Thanks for taking the time to express your reasoning.

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