Would You Purchase this Coin Based on These Auction Photos? 🧐
Would you purchase this coin based on these Auction Photos? 🤔
What details about Strike, Luster and Grade can you discern about the coin from these overexposed photos?


Stuart
Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
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I think someone would buy that thinking it's the TDR. Unfortunately, it appears to be machine doubling.
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the field-device contrast leads me to think it hasn't been overly dipped, if at all
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This one's for sale on the BST right
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Yes I would. I hooked my puter to a 40 in TV and all the things you see I don't.
Just a ton of frosty luster. Minimum marks a little staining from maybe an old dip on the right leg down to the arrows on the reverse..
There is as FlyingAl mentioned, a lot of doubling.
I personally find it appealing.1 -
@pcgsregistrycollector said:
This one's for sale on the BST rightThat would seem to make this thread problematic
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@pcgsregistrycollector said:
This one's for sale on the BST rightIncorrect — It’s not being offered for sale anywhere.
Stuart
Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
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Yes; "the perfect is the enemy of the good"--Voltaire.
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@ELVIS1 said:
Yes I would. I hooked my puter to a 40 in TV and all the things you see I don't.
Just a ton of frosty luster. Minimum marks a little staining from maybe an old dip on the right leg down to the arrows on the reverse..
There is as FlyingAl mentioned, a lot of doubling.
I personally find it appealing.Let me clarify, this coin is NOT the TDR FS-801. It does not show die doubling.
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@FlyingAl said:
@ELVIS1 said:
Yes I would. I hooked my puter to a 40 in TV and all the things you see I don't.
Just a ton of frosty luster. Minimum marks a little staining from maybe an old dip on the right leg down to the arrows on the reverse..
There is as FlyingAl mentioned, a lot of doubling.
I personally find it appealing.Let me clarify, this coin is NOT the TDR FS-801. It does not show die doubling.
I was agreeing with FlyingAl that there looked to be machine doubling.
It's a Nice coin.1 -
this question needs a GTG thread
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I see a hammered EDS strike, frosty luster on the devices, hard more semi-PL fields (not semi-PL, just leaning more that way than the devices, typical of many EDS coins), very few marks and what appears to be a real, original skin ... and a near Gem/Gem grade.
Whether it's the TDR, MD or the remnants of pull away toning makes little difference to me. I can't tell from those images.
If I was in the game for a high-grade Barber Half, I would be very interested.
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Looks like a nice AU 58++. If not for sale on BST, it might be up for a trade some bit coin.
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Sure for the right price I’ll buy any scarce UNC first year issue
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Would those photos stop me from buying that coin if it was one I needed? Absolutely not.
Would better photos lead me to put in a higher bid? Very likely.
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if you paid for the photos and want them re-shot, then i'm in favor of that
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Didn't you just recently post it as a cool new purchase? Did the in hand look change your mind about it?
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@U1chicago said:
Didn't you just recently post it as a cool new purchase? Did the in hand look change your mind about it?Well.... Thats something huh...
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um? gold bean?
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Awful. Just awful.
Dave
Always looking for original, better date VF20-VF35 Barber quarters and halves, and a quality beer.0 -
@Stuart said:
@pcgsregistrycollector said:
This one's for sale on the BST rightIncorrect — It’s not being offered for sale anywhere.
Not even on www.disservicetotheconsignor.com
theknowitalltroll;1 -
You obviously did bc this is the same coin you posted in another thread.
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Any True Views?
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@MsMorrisine said:
@semikeycollector said:
Any True Views?TV and cert# in other thread
awaiting rest of story.....
I don't know if this pic helps. : https://www.pcgsasia.com/cert/57205888?l=en - pic on PCGS site..
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it's in the auction
2 different pictures. so what's the complaint?
heritage can't take photos?
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is this a gotcha thread to see if anyone sees a tdr?i will stay with 64+
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I don't believe that is the TDR.
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Is this better?

Leo
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Hmmm...
No, I would not buy this coin... WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE OTHER PHOTO in the auction listing.
The full slab shot is overexposed. The other two photos are fine.
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Methinks the cherry pick turned out to be all pit and no fruit.
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@U1chicago said:
Didn't you just recently post it as a cool new purchase? Did the in hand look change your mind about it?@U1Chicago - I have not seen the coin in person.
Stuart
Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
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@leothelyon - Thanks! I’d like to see your result by similarly post-processing the reverse image.
Stuart
Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
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You folks are good Numismatic Detectives! 😎👍
@MsMorrisine - The “Rest of the Story” is that my first thread post did not generate any forum traction, so I decided to take a different approach by posting this second thread, using the lackluster auction images to stimulate some discussion about purchasing coins from images.
I did purchase the coin this week in HA’s auction, but have not yet received it.
I also thought it looked nice for the assigned grade, possibly an Early Die State example, with potential upside if it turns out to be the TDR (FS-801) variety.
I’m expecting it to look better in person than in the auction images, and somewhat similar to these PCGS TrueView images of the same coin.


Stuart
Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
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I may be in the minority here but having looked at tens of thousands of coin pics, my opinion would have been that the coin is covered in original mint frost. It is a hard thing to explain but what could look like a hazy aftermath from a cleaning should be actual mint frost. The cleaning feature could always be a possiblity so yes indeed, i would have wanted to see other pictures. Especially before paying up for a coin of that price range. Cleaned coins tend to have a cloudier appearance. James
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@leothelyon said:
Is this better?
Leo

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