@Basebal21 said:
Lol its now been reported that the Memphis safety who was kicked off the team sent the defensive play calls to the UTSA QB before the game last year that Mephis gave up 44 points and lost. Text messages have been leaked. I dont know how Purdue where he is now doesnt immediately kick him off the team.
@perkdog said:
It's nice to not see Georgia auto ranked #1
Toughest schedule will do that. GO DAWGS!!
Toughest schedule is in the BIG Ten. Sec no longer the best conference. Ohio State should be #1
Toughest schedules are in the SEC. 4 of the top 5 are SEC schools and 7 of the top 10 based on the coaches poll. Florida is number 1 and Wake has the easiest power 4 schedule this year
As far as 1 and 2 preseason coaches poll playing week one Id be surprised if that wasnt the first time in the modern era
@perkdog said:
It's nice to not see Georgia auto ranked #1
Toughest schedule will do that. GO DAWGS!!
Toughest schedule is in the BIG Ten. Sec no longer the best conference. Ohio State should be #1
Toughest schedules are in the SEC. 4 of the top 5 are SEC schools and 7 of the top 10 based on the coaches poll. Florida is number 1 and Wake has the easiest power 4 schedule this year
As far as 1 and 2 preseason coaches poll playing week one Id be surprised if that wasnt the first time in the modern era
Wrong. Sec teams are always overranked in the pre season polls, and that gives them a undeserving advantage. The only reason Alabama is at #8 is because of brand name only. Georgia and LSU are also too high. Ohio State should be number one, not Texas. Ohio State beat Texas on their field in the playoffs. BIG TEN has proved the last two years on the field that they are the best conference.
@perkdog said:
It's nice to not see Georgia auto ranked #1
Toughest schedule will do that. GO DAWGS!!
Toughest schedule is in the BIG Ten. Sec no longer the best conference. Ohio State should be #1
Toughest schedules are in the SEC. 4 of the top 5 are SEC schools and 7 of the top 10 based on the coaches poll. Florida is number 1 and Wake has the easiest power 4 schedule this year
As far as 1 and 2 preseason coaches poll playing week one Id be surprised if that wasnt the first time in the modern era
Wrong. Sec teams are always overranked in the pre season polls, and that gives them a undeserving advantage. The only reason Alabama is at #8 is because of brand name only. Georgia and LSU are also too high. Ohio State should be number one, not Texas. Ohio State beat Texas on their field in the playoffs. BIG TEN has proved the last two years on the field that they are the best conference.
Rosters change every year. I wont argue with you that I dont like Bamas coach being to friendly and not benching Milroe last year when he lost them a a game, but no they are not always over ranked and put the most players in the NFL every year
Everyone without sec goggles know the sec teams are overranked. Please tell me how in the World why Texas A@M and Florida are ranked? Both finished with 5 losses last year. Its a joke.
@coolstanley said:
Ohio State should be number one, not Texas.
Las Vegas agrees with you. Ohio State is favored over Texas in week 1, making Texas the first ever #1 to be an underdog in their opening game of a season.
@coolstanley said:
Ohio State should be number one, not Texas.
Las Vegas agrees with you. Ohio State is favored over Texas in week 1, making Texas the first ever #1 to be an underdog in their opening game of a season.
That is pretty crazy, Ohio State lost a lot of kids to the draft, like their starting QB and both running backs
@coolstanley said:
Ohio State should be number one, not Texas.
Las Vegas agrees with you. Ohio State is favored over Texas in week 1, making Texas the first ever #1 to be an underdog in their opening game of a season.
That is pretty crazy, Ohio State lost a lot of kids to the draft, like their starting QB and both running backs
Pretty big game for week 1 either way
They reload every year. And they still have Jeremiah Smith and Caleb Downs.
The first few weeks of every NCAA season can be hard to predict for reasons mentioned by @perkdog, lot of teams lose key players. Ohio State or Texas could lose that game and still end up playing in the Championship.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
@coolstanley said:
Ohio State should be number one, not Texas.
Las Vegas agrees with you. Ohio State is favored over Texas in week 1, making Texas the first ever #1 to be an underdog in their opening game of a season.
This happened in 1988 as well. Defending National Champions Miami Hurricanes #6 opened as the betting favorites against #1 Florida State. Florida State made an awful rap video before the season started, and Jimmy Johnson showed the video to the team before the game. Canes blew them out 31-0.
@coolstanley said:
Ohio State should be number one, not Texas.
Las Vegas agrees with you. Ohio State is favored over Texas in week 1, making Texas the first ever #1 to be an underdog in their opening game of a season.
This happened in 1988 as well. Defending National Champions Miami Hurricanes #6 opened as the betting favorites against #1 Florida State. Florida State made an awful rap video before the season started, and Jimmy Johnson showed the video to the team before the game. Canes blew them out 31-0.
@Maywood said:
The first few weeks of every NCAA season can be hard to predict for reasons mentioned by @perkdog, lot of teams lose key players. Ohio State or Texas could lose that game and still end up playing in the Championship.
Yep you can definitely still be a champion even if you lost 2 games now
@coolstanley said:
Ohio State should be number one, not Texas.
Las Vegas agrees with you. Ohio State is favored over Texas in week 1, making Texas the first ever #1 to be an underdog in their opening game of a season.
That is pretty crazy, Ohio State lost a lot of kids to the draft, like their starting QB and both running backs
Pretty big game for week 1 either way
They reload every year. And they still have Jeremiah Smith and Caleb Downs.
@Maywood said:
The first few weeks of every NCAA season can be hard to predict for reasons mentioned by @perkdog, lot of teams lose key players. Ohio State or Texas could lose that game and still end up playing in the Championship.
Yep you can definitely still be a champion even if you lost 2 games now
Last year, Ohio State lost two games by a combined 4 points. It all depends on how you lose sometimes.
@coolstanley said: Last year, Ohio State lost two games by a combined 4 points. It all depends on how you lose sometimes.
For the most part and for most teams it is a matter of "WHEN" you lose, at least it used to be with the old playoff system. If a team lost early they could work their way back up in the polls, but a loss late in the season could be a death blow. With their last two Championships, in 2014 and 2024, the Buckeyes exposed the flaw in the way the playoff was in the past and reasons why it needed(and still needs) to be expanded. Until the NCAA finds the right number of teams to involve and the most fair way to determine who those teams are we won't always have the best teams playing for the prize.
Right now, and this is just my opinion, there are teams riding higher in the polls based on their past and other teams who are overlooked because they have no "history" to be considered. Consistent current performance should really be all that matters.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
@Maywood said:
The first few weeks of every NCAA season can be hard to predict for reasons mentioned by @perkdog, lot of teams lose key players. Ohio State or Texas could lose that game and still end up playing in the Championship.
Yep you can definitely still be a champion even if you lost 2 games now
Really 3 now. NIL has spread the talent out and its very likely going to 16 teams next year.
@Maywood said:
The Michigan/OSU rivalry is really ridiculous and it distorts what generally shouldn't be a close game.
What do you mean shouldn't be a close game?
I am not a Michigan or OSU guy, I'm really not even a big fan of any team I just like watching it in general but I can say a intense rivalry adds to the enjoyment I think.
Personally if you told.the rivalry part out of it I don't think Michigan would have beaten OSU last year, OSU was clearly the better team but you throw in the pressures of such an intense rivalry and the media hoopla surrounding it certain coaches get flustered, IDK I think it's great for the sport
@Maywood said:
The Michigan/OSU rivalry is really ridiculous and it distorts what generally shouldn't be a close game.
What do you mean shouldn't be a close game?
I am not a Michigan or OSU guy, I'm really not even a big fan of any team I just like watching it in general but I can say a intense rivalry adds to the enjoyment I think.
Personally if you told.the rivalry part out of it I don't think Michigan would have beaten OSU last year, OSU was clearly the better team but you throw in the pressures of such an intense rivalry and the media hoopla surrounding it certain coaches get flustered, IDK I think it's great for the sport
OSU has been the best team in the B!G for a few years now. If they lose it this year its really going to be a bad look. Michigan is expected to get punished tomorrow but doesnt sound like it will be harsh from the rumors so who knows
@perkdog, you sort of summed up my thoughts. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve watched that game and Ohio State is the better team and loses. Typically, when the teams play the Wolverines play very well and the Buckeyes play tight. I have to believe it’s coaching.
Last year is a good example.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
@Maywood said: @perkdog, you sort of summed up my thoughts. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve watched that game and Ohio State is the better team and loses. Typically, when the teams play the Wolverines play very well and the Buckeyes play tight. I have to believe it’s coaching.
Last year is a good example.
Buckeyes lost both games last year because they had a bad field goal kicker. He missed two easy FG's against Michigan, and one against Oregon.
@Maywood said: @perkdog, you sort of summed up my thoughts. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve watched that game and Ohio State is the better team and loses. Typically, when the teams play the Wolverines play very well and the Buckeyes play tight. I have to believe it’s coaching.
@perkdog, that’s especially true in the NFL since soccer-style kickers showed up. Currently if a team can cross the 50 ad time is ending they have a shot.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Too bad the NCAA has no balls, if they did they would strip Michigan of that Natty and reach some sort of deal with the NFL over Jim Harbaugh, who fled the ship like a rat.
ANN ARBOR, Mich. — The NCAA fined Michigan tens of millions of dollars Friday and suspended coach Sherrone Moore for three games for a sign-stealing scandal that has loomed over college football’s winningest program for nearly two years.
Moore, who was already issued a self-imposed two-game suspension by Michigan, will also be banned from the first game of the 2026-27 season for a total of three games. Moore received a two-year show-cause order, but he will be allowed to fulfill coaching commitments and other athletically related activities.
Financial penalties are expected to exceed $20 million and include a $50,000 fine, a 10% fine on the football program’s budget, a 10% fine on Michigan’s 2025-26 scholarships and a fine equivalent to the anticipated loss of postseason revenue for the 2025 and 2026 seasons. Michigan also faces a 25% reduction in official visits during the upcoming season and a 14-week prohibition on football recruiting communications during the probation period.
Connor Stalions, a former a low-level staffer who conducted the scouting and sign-stealing operation, was issued an eight-year show-cause order. Former Michigan coach Jim Harbaugh faces a 10-year show-cause order following the conclusion of his previous four-year order effective Aug. 7, 2028. Harbaugh and Stalions will be prohibited from engaging in all athletically related activities.
The NCAA does not have rules against stealing signs, but does prohibit schools from sending scouts to the games of future opponents and using electronic equipment to record another team’s signals.
In a notice sent to the school last year, the NCAA alleged that Moore violated rules as an assistant under Harbaugh.
Harbaugh, who left the Wolverines after they won the 2023 national championship and now coaches the Los Angeles Chargers, served a three-game suspension in exchange for the Big Ten dropping its investigation into the allegations after the two ended up in court. Moore also was accused of deleting text messages with Stalions before they were recovered and provided to the NCAA.
The NCAA investigation surfaced early in the 2023 season amid allegations that Michigan used a robust in-person scouting and sign-stealing operation conducted by Stalions. He was suspended by the school and later resigned.
Stalions, who did not participate in the NCAA investigation, recently said he knew almost every signal opponents used in seven games over two seasons.
Big Ten Commissioner Tony Petitti sent a letter to the NCAA Committee on Infractions last month, suggesting that Michigan’s football program should not face more sanctions related to the sign-stealing saga.
The Wolverines open the season on Aug. 30 at home against New Mexico State and then play at Oklahoma, where Moore was an offensive lineman, on Sept. 6.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
As rumored complete slap on the wrist. The NCAA is terrified of the SEC and B!G at this point. Stallons can still do what he did without being on staff coaching HS, Jim didnt want to be a college coach anyways and wont come back. The boosters will be more than happy to pay the fine.
It probably wont happen in the next year or two but the SEC and B!G have had some talks about breaking off so the NCAA is going to treat them with kid gloves. Theyre getting frustrated in the playoff talks that the G5 can out vote them. Swanky used to work for the NCAA and wants to make it work but if they start throwing their weight around the ACC and Big 12 will follow
I dont think it will happen with this next playoff but the best solution might just be to have a power 4 playoff and a separate G5 playoff
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If you want to surprise him tell him some woman is chuzz or chopped lol Youll probably get that confused look from him again lol
Fire AJ Preller
The 1st coaches poll came out the other day. The AP poll is to be released Aug 11.
When was the last time #1 vs #2 played each other opening week?
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It's nice to not see Georgia auto ranked #1
Toughest schedule will do that. GO DAWGS!!
Toughest schedule is in the BIG Ten. Sec no longer the best conference. Ohio State should be #1
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ohio State Buckeyes - National Champions
Toughest schedules are in the SEC. 4 of the top 5 are SEC schools and 7 of the top 10 based on the coaches poll. Florida is number 1 and Wake has the easiest power 4 schedule this year
As far as 1 and 2 preseason coaches poll playing week one Id be surprised if that wasnt the first time in the modern era
Fire AJ Preller
Wrong. Sec teams are always overranked in the pre season polls, and that gives them a undeserving advantage. The only reason Alabama is at #8 is because of brand name only. Georgia and LSU are also too high. Ohio State should be number one, not Texas. Ohio State beat Texas on their field in the playoffs. BIG TEN has proved the last two years on the field that they are the best conference.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ohio State Buckeyes - National Champions
Rosters change every year. I wont argue with you that I dont like Bamas coach being to friendly and not benching Milroe last year when he lost them a a game, but no they are not always over ranked and put the most players in the NFL every year
Fire AJ Preller
Everyone without sec goggles know the sec teams are overranked. Please tell me how in the World why Texas A@M and Florida are ranked? Both finished with 5 losses last year. Its a joke.
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I think I'm looking forward to the heated debates here just as much as I am the games lol
In this battle of unproven QBs I’m going to take Manning coming out on top. But probably going to be a game won by Texas d-line.
Las Vegas agrees with you. Ohio State is favored over Texas in week 1, making Texas the first ever #1 to be an underdog in their opening game of a season.
That is pretty crazy, Ohio State lost a lot of kids to the draft, like their starting QB and both running backs
Pretty big game for week 1 either way
oh snap
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Finebum the sec homer.
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They reload every year. And they still have Jeremiah Smith and Caleb Downs.
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The first few weeks of every NCAA season can be hard to predict for reasons mentioned by @perkdog, lot of teams lose key players. Ohio State or Texas could lose that game and still end up playing in the Championship.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
This happened in 1988 as well. Defending National Champions Miami Hurricanes #6 opened as the betting favorites against #1 Florida State. Florida State made an awful rap video before the season started, and Jimmy Johnson showed the video to the team before the game. Canes blew them out 31-0.
Florida State was a 4-pt favorite in that game:
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/45945260/longhorns-week-1-underdog-ohio-state-no-1-rank
Yep you can definitely still be a champion even if you lost 2 games now
100%
Last year, Ohio State lost two games by a combined 4 points. It all depends on how you lose sometimes.
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Oklahoma ranked in the AP poll what? They were terrible last year
Proves the sec homers really come out hot and heavy on voting day, to help the other sec teams SOS. What an embarrassment
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@coolstanley said: Last year, Ohio State lost two games by a combined 4 points. It all depends on how you lose sometimes.
For the most part and for most teams it is a matter of "WHEN" you lose, at least it used to be with the old playoff system. If a team lost early they could work their way back up in the polls, but a loss late in the season could be a death blow. With their last two Championships, in 2014 and 2024, the Buckeyes exposed the flaw in the way the playoff was in the past and reasons why it needed(and still needs) to be expanded. Until the NCAA finds the right number of teams to involve and the most fair way to determine who those teams are we won't always have the best teams playing for the prize.
Right now, and this is just my opinion, there are teams riding higher in the polls based on their past and other teams who are overlooked because they have no "history" to be considered. Consistent current performance should really be all that matters.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Will Ohio State beat Michigan this year??
That is secondary to a National Championship by a small margin I'm thinking!
I hope they beat Michigan, but I'll take a natty any day of the week. Being #1 is more important than any regular season win.
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Really 3 now. NIL has spread the talent out and its very likely going to 16 teams next year.
Fire AJ Preller
I'd have to agree with that but I do think some OSU fans consider the season a loss if they don't beat Michigan
They still living in the 70's.
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The Michigan/OSU rivalry is really ridiculous and it distorts what generally shouldn't be a close game.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
What do you mean shouldn't be a close game?
I am not a Michigan or OSU guy, I'm really not even a big fan of any team I just like watching it in general but I can say a intense rivalry adds to the enjoyment I think.
Personally if you told.the rivalry part out of it I don't think Michigan would have beaten OSU last year, OSU was clearly the better team but you throw in the pressures of such an intense rivalry and the media hoopla surrounding it certain coaches get flustered, IDK I think it's great for the sport
OSU has been the best team in the B!G for a few years now. If they lose it this year its really going to be a bad look. Michigan is expected to get punished tomorrow but doesnt sound like it will be harsh from the rumors so who knows
Fire AJ Preller
@perkdog, you sort of summed up my thoughts. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve watched that game and Ohio State is the better team and loses. Typically, when the teams play the Wolverines play very well and the Buckeyes play tight. I have to believe it’s coaching.
Last year is a good example.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Buckeyes lost both games last year because they had a bad field goal kicker. He missed two easy FG's against Michigan, and one against Oregon.
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I see your point now
FG kickers have ruined many a good season for a LOT of teams through the years
@perkdog, that’s especially true in the NFL since soccer-style kickers showed up. Currently if a team can cross the 50 ad time is ending they have a shot.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
ESPN pre season rankings
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Too bad the NCAA has no balls, if they did they would strip Michigan of that Natty and reach some sort of deal with the NFL over Jim Harbaugh, who fled the ship like a rat.
ANN ARBOR, Mich. — The NCAA fined Michigan tens of millions of dollars Friday and suspended coach Sherrone Moore for three games for a sign-stealing scandal that has loomed over college football’s winningest program for nearly two years.
Moore, who was already issued a self-imposed two-game suspension by Michigan, will also be banned from the first game of the 2026-27 season for a total of three games. Moore received a two-year show-cause order, but he will be allowed to fulfill coaching commitments and other athletically related activities.
Financial penalties are expected to exceed $20 million and include a $50,000 fine, a 10% fine on the football program’s budget, a 10% fine on Michigan’s 2025-26 scholarships and a fine equivalent to the anticipated loss of postseason revenue for the 2025 and 2026 seasons. Michigan also faces a 25% reduction in official visits during the upcoming season and a 14-week prohibition on football recruiting communications during the probation period.
Connor Stalions, a former a low-level staffer who conducted the scouting and sign-stealing operation, was issued an eight-year show-cause order. Former Michigan coach Jim Harbaugh faces a 10-year show-cause order following the conclusion of his previous four-year order effective Aug. 7, 2028. Harbaugh and Stalions will be prohibited from engaging in all athletically related activities.
The NCAA does not have rules against stealing signs, but does prohibit schools from sending scouts to the games of future opponents and using electronic equipment to record another team’s signals.
In a notice sent to the school last year, the NCAA alleged that Moore violated rules as an assistant under Harbaugh.
Harbaugh, who left the Wolverines after they won the 2023 national championship and now coaches the Los Angeles Chargers, served a three-game suspension in exchange for the Big Ten dropping its investigation into the allegations after the two ended up in court. Moore also was accused of deleting text messages with Stalions before they were recovered and provided to the NCAA.
The NCAA investigation surfaced early in the 2023 season amid allegations that Michigan used a robust in-person scouting and sign-stealing operation conducted by Stalions. He was suspended by the school and later resigned.
Stalions, who did not participate in the NCAA investigation, recently said he knew almost every signal opponents used in seven games over two seasons.
Big Ten Commissioner Tony Petitti sent a letter to the NCAA Committee on Infractions last month, suggesting that Michigan’s football program should not face more sanctions related to the sign-stealing saga.
The Wolverines open the season on Aug. 30 at home against New Mexico State and then play at Oklahoma, where Moore was an offensive lineman, on Sept. 6.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
As rumored complete slap on the wrist. The NCAA is terrified of the SEC and B!G at this point. Stallons can still do what he did without being on staff coaching HS, Jim didnt want to be a college coach anyways and wont come back. The boosters will be more than happy to pay the fine.
It probably wont happen in the next year or two but the SEC and B!G have had some talks about breaking off so the NCAA is going to treat them with kid gloves. Theyre getting frustrated in the playoff talks that the G5 can out vote them. Swanky used to work for the NCAA and wants to make it work but if they start throwing their weight around the ACC and Big 12 will follow
I dont think it will happen with this next playoff but the best solution might just be to have a power 4 playoff and a separate G5 playoff
Fire AJ Preller
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