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Grading at a show or not

Wondering if taking some of my coins to the OKC ANA show to get someone to look at them and/or grade them is a good idea? I am in the area.
Secondly, they are in these old brown coin national albums where you placed each coin in its slot to collect each year's coin. Do I take them out of that? I don't want to scratch them. I don't have any experience with this. Thanks!

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,621 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you are submitting for grading, they need to be in plastic flips not an album.

    I'm not sure what you mean by "look at" or grade. The grading companies will accept them for grading but they won't offer free opinions. You can get "free opinions" from dealers but unless you know the dealer, the opinion might be overpriced at that.

    If you want free opinions, pay good quality pictures here.

  • OK I'll post some pics here next week. Yeah I guess I just wanted an opinion on some of the more important ones and maybe to get some graded. I'd be nervous taking them out of the albums though...the pages are stapled. Sorry for any confusion.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,621 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BigRob said:
    OK I'll post some pics here next week. Yeah I guess I just wanted an opinion on some of the more important ones and maybe to get some graded. I'd be nervous taking them out of the albums though...the pages are stapled. Sorry for any confusion.

    Staples are bad. Stapled how? The old national albums didn't have staples holding the coins in...????

  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,308 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Post some pictures @BigRob ... they don't have to be great, just give is an idea of what you're looking at. Some of us will be at the show and may be able to help you a little between know and then (and there as well).


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  • giantsfan20giantsfan20 Posts: 1,706 ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 9, 2025 7:34PM

    What type of coins do you intend to grade. With the cost involved it’s not worth it for coins say worth $200+ ungraded.

    www.numismedia.com coin values.

    https://pcgs.com/photograde pictures of coins with grades .

  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 4,109 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I suggest buying a Redbook and looking up the values of your coins there. The Redbook has brief notes on grading, and you'll get a sense of their scarcity and value looking at the mintages and prices listed. It generally isn't profitable to have coins graded unless they are worth $200 or more. Numismedia is good for checking values as well, though I never use it.

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  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you have never submitted before, taking them to the show for some opinions from dealers might be a good idea. A scratch, light cleaning or other damage pointed out will save lots of money in grading fees.

  • winestevenwinesteven Posts: 4,942 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you do end up having coins submitted at the show for grading, there are two different types of submissions, with a different named Submission form for each:

    1. A “Show Submission”, where you submit the coins early in the show, and get them returned graded in the holders (slabs) before the end of the show. This is more expensive than #2 below.
    2. A regular submission, where you submit your coins at the show, they take them back to their headquarters to do the grading, and then weeks later, they ship your coins back graded (at your expense).

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  • 4Redisin4Redisin Posts: 644 ✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    If you are submitting for grading, they need to be in plastic flips not an album.

    I'm not sure what you mean by "look at" or grade. The grading companies will accept them for grading but they won't offer free opinions. You can get "free opinions" from dealers but unless you know the dealer, the opinion might be overpriced at that.

    If you want free opinions, pay good quality pictures here.

    I don't attend big coin shows but I know for a fact that both ANACS and ICG give FREE OPINIONS on the grade and authenticity of coins at major coin shows when one of their graders is present. This has been going on for as long as I can remember although ICG is the new kid on the block.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,621 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @4Redisin said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    If you are submitting for grading, they need to be in plastic flips not an album.

    I'm not sure what you mean by "look at" or grade. The grading companies will accept them for grading but they won't offer free opinions. You can get "free opinions" from dealers but unless you know the dealer, the opinion might be overpriced at that.

    If you want free opinions, pay good quality pictures here.

    I don't attend big coin shows but I know for a fact that both ANACS and ICG give FREE OPINIONS on the grade and authenticity of coins at major coin shows when one of their graders is present. This has been going on for as long as I can remember although ICG is the new kid on the block.

    Key point is "when one of their graders is present". Generally, at least for NGC and PCGS, you're only going to interact with their CS people.

  • 4Redisin4Redisin Posts: 644 ✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @4Redisin said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    If you are submitting for grading, they need to be in plastic flips not an album.

    I'm not sure what you mean by "look at" or grade. The grading companies will accept them for grading but they won't offer free opinions. You can get "free opinions" from dealers but unless you know the dealer, the opinion might be overpriced at that.

    If you want free opinions, pay good quality pictures here.

    I don't attend big coin shows but I know for a fact that both ANACS and ICG give FREE OPINIONS on the grade and authenticity of coins at major coin shows when one of their graders is present. This has been going on for as long as I can remember although ICG is the new kid on the block.

    Key point is "when one of their graders is present". Generally, at least for NGC and PCGS, you're only going to interact with their CS people.

    No, key point should be is that's one of the greatest FAILINGS of what are supposed to be the two top TPGS! Apparently, ANACS and ICG are just as interested in educating the public as they are in taking their money. Furthermore, NGC and PCGS are not the God's of coin grading. That's possibly the main reason a CAC was needed!

  • alefzeroalefzero Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 10, 2025 11:18AM

    If you go to the show, there are plenty of dealers there obviously. As long as they aren't busy, maybe ask one or two who are selling similar coins for their advice on grading. If it makes sense, you can work a submission, they'll have flips to put them in for submitting.

    NGC and PCGS require membership, an additional fee, to submit. ANACS does not and has very modest fees. Submitting at a show saves one-way shipping too. (All shipping if you can pick up at another show in their calendar around when they will be ready.) I would advise using ANACS if you are new to it. The guy at their table is usually knowledgeable and would not steer you wrong and accept pocket change or other coins really not worth certification. If you have varieties, their attributor, John Roberts, will be at that show for the intermediate days.

  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,606 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @4Redisin said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    If you are submitting for grading, they need to be in plastic flips not an album.

    I'm not sure what you mean by "look at" or grade. The grading companies will accept them for grading but they won't offer free opinions. You can get "free opinions" from dealers but unless you know the dealer, the opinion might be overpriced at that.

    If you want free opinions, pay good quality pictures here.

    I don't attend big coin shows but I know for a fact that both ANACS and ICG give FREE OPINIONS on the grade and authenticity of coins at major coin shows when one of their graders is present. This has been going on for as long as I can remember although ICG is the new kid on the block.

    Key point is "when one of their graders is present". Generally, at least for NGC and PCGS, you're only going to interact with their CS people.

    Agreed. The graders are locked in a room and their meal gets slid under the door.

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,882 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oih82w8 said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @4Redisin said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    If you are submitting for grading, they need to be in plastic flips not an album.

    I'm not sure what you mean by "look at" or grade. The grading companies will accept them for grading but they won't offer free opinions. You can get "free opinions" from dealers but unless you know the dealer, the opinion might be overpriced at that.

    If you want free opinions, pay good quality pictures here.

    I don't attend big coin shows but I know for a fact that both ANACS and ICG give FREE OPINIONS on the grade and authenticity of coins at major coin shows when one of their graders is present. This has been going on for as long as I can remember although ICG is the new kid on the block.

    Key point is "when one of their graders is present". Generally, at least for NGC and PCGS, you're only going to interact with their CS people.

    Agreed. The graders are locked in a room and their meal gets slid under the door.

    Yes, and for those who might be wondering about the meals being slid under the door, thin single “stacks” of pancakes are the most popular option. 😉

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,621 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @oih82w8 said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @4Redisin said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    If you are submitting for grading, they need to be in plastic flips not an album.

    I'm not sure what you mean by "look at" or grade. The grading companies will accept them for grading but they won't offer free opinions. You can get "free opinions" from dealers but unless you know the dealer, the opinion might be overpriced at that.

    If you want free opinions, pay good quality pictures here.

    I don't attend big coin shows but I know for a fact that both ANACS and ICG give FREE OPINIONS on the grade and authenticity of coins at major coin shows when one of their graders is present. This has been going on for as long as I can remember although ICG is the new kid on the block.

    Key point is "when one of their graders is present". Generally, at least for NGC and PCGS, you're only going to interact with their CS people.

    Agreed. The graders are locked in a room and their meal gets slid under the door.

    Yes, and for those who might be wondering about the meals being slid under the door, thin single “stacks” of pancakes are the most popular option. 😉

    Carbo- packing for stamina. Excellent. I assume they also get amphetamine-laced coffee to wash them down?

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,621 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @4Redisin said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @4Redisin said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    If you are submitting for grading, they need to be in plastic flips not an album.

    I'm not sure what you mean by "look at" or grade. The grading companies will accept them for grading but they won't offer free opinions. You can get "free opinions" from dealers but unless you know the dealer, the opinion might be overpriced at that.

    If you want free opinions, pay good quality pictures here.

    I don't attend big coin shows but I know for a fact that both ANACS and ICG give FREE OPINIONS on the grade and authenticity of coins at major coin shows when one of their graders is present. This has been going on for as long as I can remember although ICG is the new kid on the block.

    Key point is "when one of their graders is present". Generally, at least for NGC and PCGS, you're only going to interact with their CS people.

    No, key point should be is that's one of the greatest FAILINGS of what are supposed to be the two top TPGS! Apparently, ANACS and ICG are just as interested in educating the public as they are in taking their money. Furthermore, NGC and PCGS are not the God's of coin grading. That's possibly the main reason a CAC was needed!

    I see no reason to be negative. If you are doing show grading, you can't both grade the coins and work the desk.

    Does your doctor also answer the phone? If he does, find a new doctor because that's not a good use for his time.

  • 4Redisin4Redisin Posts: 644 ✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @4Redisin said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @4Redisin said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    If you are submitting for grading, they need to be in plastic flips not an album.

    I'm not sure what you mean by "look at" or grade. The grading companies will accept them for grading but they won't offer free opinions. You can get "free opinions" from dealers but unless you know the dealer, the opinion might be overpriced at that.

    If you want free opinions, pay good quality pictures here.

    I don't attend big coin shows but I know for a fact that both ANACS and ICG give FREE OPINIONS on the grade and authenticity of coins at major coin shows when one of their graders is present. This has been going on for as long as I can remember although ICG is the new kid on the block.

    Key point is "when one of their graders is present". Generally, at least for NGC and PCGS, you're only going to interact with their CS people.

    No, key point should be is that's one of the greatest FAILINGS of what are supposed to be the two top TPGS! Apparently, ANACS and ICG are just as interested in educating the public as they are in taking their money. Furthermore, NGC and PCGS are not the God's of coin grading. That's possibly the main reason a CAC was needed!

    I see no reason to be negative. If you are doing show grading, you can't both grade the coins and work the desk.

    Does your doctor also answer the phone? If he does, find a new doctor because that's not a good use for his time.

    The guys at ANACS and ICG were doing it the last time I was in Dalton.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,621 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @4Redisin said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @4Redisin said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @4Redisin said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    If you are submitting for grading, they need to be in plastic flips not an album.

    I'm not sure what you mean by "look at" or grade. The grading companies will accept them for grading but they won't offer free opinions. You can get "free opinions" from dealers but unless you know the dealer, the opinion might be overpriced at that.

    If you want free opinions, pay good quality pictures here.

    I don't attend big coin shows but I know for a fact that both ANACS and ICG give FREE OPINIONS on the grade and authenticity of coins at major coin shows when one of their graders is present. This has been going on for as long as I can remember although ICG is the new kid on the block.

    Key point is "when one of their graders is present". Generally, at least for NGC and PCGS, you're only going to interact with their CS people.

    No, key point should be is that's one of the greatest FAILINGS of what are supposed to be the two top TPGS! Apparently, ANACS and ICG are just as interested in educating the public as they are in taking their money. Furthermore, NGC and PCGS are not the God's of coin grading. That's possibly the main reason a CAC was needed!

    I see no reason to be negative. If you are doing show grading, you can't both grade the coins and work the desk.

    Does your doctor also answer the phone? If he does, find a new doctor because that's not a good use for his time.

    The guys at ANACS and ICG were doing it the last time I was in Dalton.

    Do they actually do show grading?

  • 4Redisin4Redisin Posts: 644 ✭✭✭

    Not that I know of. They would need to bring the machines and material. As I wrote above, their actual graders give opinions. ANACS sends people who are not graders to take in coins for them at some shows. I don't know if they give free opinions, but I suspect just as here - everyone has one.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,621 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @4Redisin said:
    Not that I know of. They would need to bring the machines and material. As I wrote above, their actual graders give opinions. ANACS sends people who are not graders to take in coins for them at some shows. I don't know if they give free opinions, but I suspect just as here - everyone has one.

    And therein lies the difference...

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,845 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 11, 2025 5:45AM

    Swedish Pancakes?

    On a serios note, it does not hurt to get opinions on whether submitting for grading is a good option for you.

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