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$2 1/2 Liberty genuine or no?

logger7logger7 Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭✭✭



I picked this coin up from a dealer who called it an "MS64".

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  • 2windy2fish2windy2fish Posts: 870 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’ll wait for an expert opinion but that does not look genuine to me…

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,884 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It doesn’t look genuine to me.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's what concerned me, too much of a "cast" look but was thinking it was possible that it was part of a "satiny" surface and look as there is variability with most business issues.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,884 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    That's what concerned me, too much of a "cast" look but was thinking it was possible that it was part of a "satiny" surface and look as there is variability with most business issues.

    Additionally, many of the design details look considerably too weak, especially for a coin that appears to be mint state.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • 4Redisin4Redisin Posts: 644 ✭✭✭

    Do you see any tool marks coming from the teeth around the border? They are shaped like spikes.

  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 9,123 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 10, 2025 1:02PM

    Not genuine. But it probably has the normal gold content (would have to test to be sure).

  • pcgsregistrycollectorpcgsregistrycollector Posts: 1,485 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks to be a cast fake methinks

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,247 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks bogus here as well

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 6,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Don't just walk, RUN! RGDS!!

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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,782 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 10, 2025 6:24PM

    Run……get out of there.

    If it’s a 64 why is it not graded? Huge red flag!

    You’re saying you picked it up (your opening post) - are you saying you bought it? I sure hope you passed on it.

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  • Cranium_Basher73Cranium_Basher73 Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think he bought it.

    Throw a coin enough times, and suppose one day it lands on its edge.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,853 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Counterfeit and not a very good one at that. Probably has full gold content. The counterfeiter's profit came from the numismatic premium.

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  • Coins3675Coins3675 Posts: 370 ✭✭✭

    looks to be fake

  • fathomfathom Posts: 1,895 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A dealer called a fake coin MS64....terrific.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,815 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 11, 2025 1:24PM

    I don't like it. These things usally have frosty frosty surfaces, not grainy. The denticles are not sharp and even.

    I'd say cast copy.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,853 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:
    I don't like it. These things usally have frosty frosty surfaces, not grainy. The denticles are not sharp and even.

    I'd say case copy.

    Did you mean cast? Agree the coin may be cast or it was struck from dies that were cast using a genuine coin to create the casings.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,815 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:

    @BillJones said:
    I don't like it. These things usally have frosty frosty surfaces, not grainy. The denticles are not sharp and even.

    I'd say case copy.

    Did you mean cast? Agree the coin may be cast or it was struck from dies that were cast using a genuine coin to create the casings.

    So I can't spell, "cast copy" however it was made.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I sent it back to the shop dealer; it should be another learning experience for all concerned. I did not look closely at it until later.

  • Rc5280Rc5280 Posts: 598 ✭✭✭✭

    MS64 (not mine)

  • Coins3675Coins3675 Posts: 370 ✭✭✭

    @logger7 Is this a reputable dealer you purchased from?

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coins3675 said:
    @logger7 Is this a reputable dealer you purchased from?

    I've done a lot of business with "Pete".

    He was a long term usps manager and then opened his shop 25 years ago. Generally his grading is good, but he has people in the shop that does the grading for him which is sometimes transparently off. Every dealer should stand behind what they sell within reason. We're all competing in the marketplace where terms of business can be quite demanding.

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