You simply cannot say that while the HHL remains in place, and the Mint keeps canceling orders and returning items to inventory. Just like the Army privies.
@jmlanzaf pronounced them "not so hot" while they remained available for over a month. Even though the secondary market bid remained 2x issue price the whole time.
After 5 weeks or so, the HHL was lifted, thousands were gobbled up in a few minutes, not to be seen again on the Mint website since, and to this day, they remain bid at 2x issue price. They were hot the entire time. Still are.
Same with this. Let them sit unsold on the Mint website for a few days after the HHL is lifted, and then get back to us with credible pronouncements regarding heat. Like gold Superman. Not so hot after the missing 5K showed up on the website after the first tranche sold out.
I stand by it. "Not hot" isn't the same as "cold". Both offerings are solid but not super hot. There's no evidence of any significant excess demand for either one.
Thanks for the shout out!
Fair enough. Where I come from, a sustained 100%+ premium for weeks after the initial on sale date qualifies as "hot." Clearly, you are far more discerning and demanding than I.
You simply cannot say that while the HHL remains in place, and the Mint keeps canceling orders and returning items to inventory. Just like the Army privies.
@jmlanzaf pronounced them "not so hot" while they remained available for over a month. Even though the secondary market bid remained 2x issue price the whole time.
After 5 weeks or so, the HHL was lifted, thousands were gobbled up in a few minutes, not to be seen again on the Mint website since, and to this day, they remain bid at 2x issue price. They were hot the entire time. Still are.
Same with this. Let them sit unsold on the Mint website for a few days after the HHL is lifted, and then get back to us with credible pronouncements regarding heat. Like gold Superman. Not so hot after the missing 5K showed up on the website after the first tranche sold out.
I stand by it. "Not hot" isn't the same as "cold". Both offerings are solid but not super hot. There's no evidence of any significant excess demand for either one.
Thanks for the shout out!
Fair enough. Where I come from, a sustained 100%+ premium for weeks after the initial on sale date qualifies as "hot." Clearly, you are far more discerning and demanding than I.
Very few mint issues are instantly resalable for a profit. Even today the Army privy can be sold for cash for $165 on Pure. While a much smaller percentage, the $75 cash premium for the Sac indicates warm. It's certainly better than neutral.
You simply cannot say that while the HHL remains in place, and the Mint keeps canceling orders and returning items to inventory. Just like the Army privies.
@jmlanzaf pronounced them "not so hot" while they remained available for over a month. Even though the secondary market bid remained 2x issue price the whole time.
After 5 weeks or so, the HHL was lifted, thousands were gobbled up in a few minutes, not to be seen again on the Mint website since, and to this day, they remain bid at 2x issue price. They were hot the entire time. Still are.
Same with this. Let them sit unsold on the Mint website for a few days after the HHL is lifted, and then get back to us with credible pronouncements regarding heat. Like gold Superman. Not so hot after the missing 5K showed up on the website after the first tranche sold out.
I stand by it. "Not hot" isn't the same as "cold". Both offerings are solid but not super hot. There's no evidence of any significant excess demand for either one.
Thanks for the shout out!
Fair enough. Where I come from, a sustained 100%+ premium for weeks after the initial on sale date qualifies as "hot." Clearly, you are far more discerning and demanding than I.
Very few mint issues are instantly resalable for a profit. Even today the Army privy can be sold for cash for $165 on Pure. While a much smaller percentage, the $75 cash premium for the Sac indicates warm. It's certainly better than neutral.
???? $75? There are multiple completed sales in the last few days on eBay for $2600+ before selling fees. $425+ premium. Not $75.
@HATTRICK said:
NJcoin
He just lives in an alternate world where only he is right and everyone else is wrong.
😆😆😆😆😆
Not even remotely true or at all related to the conversation that was just had. It is perhaps your reality that needs to be recalibrated. It seems it is you who are disrespecting my opinion, not the other way around.
You simply cannot say that while the HHL remains in place, and the Mint keeps canceling orders and returning items to inventory. Just like the Army privies.
@jmlanzaf pronounced them "not so hot" while they remained available for over a month. Even though the secondary market bid remained 2x issue price the whole time.
After 5 weeks or so, the HHL was lifted, thousands were gobbled up in a few minutes, not to be seen again on the Mint website since, and to this day, they remain bid at 2x issue price. They were hot the entire time. Still are.
Same with this. Let them sit unsold on the Mint website for a few days after the HHL is lifted, and then get back to us with credible pronouncements regarding heat. Like gold Superman. Not so hot after the missing 5K showed up on the website after the first tranche sold out.
I stand by it. "Not hot" isn't the same as "cold". Both offerings are solid but not super hot. There's no evidence of any significant excess demand for either one.
Thanks for the shout out!
Fair enough. Where I come from, a sustained 100%+ premium for weeks after the initial on sale date qualifies as "hot." Clearly, you are far more discerning and demanding than I.
Very few mint issues are instantly resalable for a profit. Even today the Army privy can be sold for cash for $165 on Pure. While a much smaller percentage, the $75 cash premium for the Sac indicates warm. It's certainly better than neutral.
Actually most mint issues are less profitable over time not more so.
There are very few modern coins that weren't immediately profitable that became profitable later. I think there's one coin i flipped that is worth more now than when I flipped it.
You simply cannot say that while the HHL remains in place, and the Mint keeps canceling orders and returning items to inventory. Just like the Army privies.
@jmlanzaf pronounced them "not so hot" while they remained available for over a month. Even though the secondary market bid remained 2x issue price the whole time.
After 5 weeks or so, the HHL was lifted, thousands were gobbled up in a few minutes, not to be seen again on the Mint website since, and to this day, they remain bid at 2x issue price. They were hot the entire time. Still are.
Same with this. Let them sit unsold on the Mint website for a few days after the HHL is lifted, and then get back to us with credible pronouncements regarding heat. Like gold Superman. Not so hot after the missing 5K showed up on the website after the first tranche sold out.
I stand by it. "Not hot" isn't the same as "cold". Both offerings are solid but not super hot. There's no evidence of any significant excess demand for either one.
Thanks for the shout out!
Fair enough. Where I come from, a sustained 100%+ premium for weeks after the initial on sale date qualifies as "hot." Clearly, you are far more discerning and demanding than I.
Very few mint issues are instantly resalable for a profit. Even today the Army privy can be sold for cash for $165 on Pure. While a much smaller percentage, the $75 cash premium for the Sac indicates warm. It's certainly better than neutral.
???? $75? There are multiple completed sales in the last few days on eBay for $2600+ before selling fees. $425+ premium. Not $75.
That's a standing purchase offer. Listing it on ebay is not a sure thing. An auction could result in a net loss. The offer on Pure is guaranteed.
You simply cannot say that while the HHL remains in place, and the Mint keeps canceling orders and returning items to inventory. Just like the Army privies.
@jmlanzaf pronounced them "not so hot" while they remained available for over a month. Even though the secondary market bid remained 2x issue price the whole time.
After 5 weeks or so, the HHL was lifted, thousands were gobbled up in a few minutes, not to be seen again on the Mint website since, and to this day, they remain bid at 2x issue price. They were hot the entire time. Still are.
Same with this. Let them sit unsold on the Mint website for a few days after the HHL is lifted, and then get back to us with credible pronouncements regarding heat. Like gold Superman. Not so hot after the missing 5K showed up on the website after the first tranche sold out.
I stand by it. "Not hot" isn't the same as "cold". Both offerings are solid but not super hot. There's no evidence of any significant excess demand for either one.
Thanks for the shout out!
Fair enough. Where I come from, a sustained 100%+ premium for weeks after the initial on sale date qualifies as "hot." Clearly, you are far more discerning and demanding than I.
Very few mint issues are instantly resalable for a profit. Even today the Army privy can be sold for cash for $165 on Pure. While a much smaller percentage, the $75 cash premium for the Sac indicates warm. It's certainly better than neutral.
Actually most mint issues are less profitable over time not more so.
Wasn't talking about "over time." I wasn't aware that a "hot" coin had to stay hot in perpetuity.
You simply cannot say that while the HHL remains in place, and the Mint keeps canceling orders and returning items to inventory. Just like the Army privies.
@jmlanzaf pronounced them "not so hot" while they remained available for over a month. Even though the secondary market bid remained 2x issue price the whole time.
After 5 weeks or so, the HHL was lifted, thousands were gobbled up in a few minutes, not to be seen again on the Mint website since, and to this day, they remain bid at 2x issue price. They were hot the entire time. Still are.
Same with this. Let them sit unsold on the Mint website for a few days after the HHL is lifted, and then get back to us with credible pronouncements regarding heat. Like gold Superman. Not so hot after the missing 5K showed up on the website after the first tranche sold out.
I stand by it. "Not hot" isn't the same as "cold". Both offerings are solid but not super hot. There's no evidence of any significant excess demand for either one.
Thanks for the shout out!
Fair enough. Where I come from, a sustained 100%+ premium for weeks after the initial on sale date qualifies as "hot." Clearly, you are far more discerning and demanding than I.
Very few mint issues are instantly resalable for a profit. Even today the Army privy can be sold for cash for $165 on Pure. While a much smaller percentage, the $75 cash premium for the Sac indicates warm. It's certainly better than neutral.
???? $75? There are multiple completed sales in the last few days on eBay for $2600+ before selling fees. $425+ premium. Not $75.
That's a standing purchase offer. Listing it on ebay is not a sure thing. An auction could result in a net loss. The offer on Pure is guaranteed.
You simply cannot say that while the HHL remains in place, and the Mint keeps canceling orders and returning items to inventory. Just like the Army privies.
@jmlanzaf pronounced them "not so hot" while they remained available for over a month. Even though the secondary market bid remained 2x issue price the whole time.
After 5 weeks or so, the HHL was lifted, thousands were gobbled up in a few minutes, not to be seen again on the Mint website since, and to this day, they remain bid at 2x issue price. They were hot the entire time. Still are.
Same with this. Let them sit unsold on the Mint website for a few days after the HHL is lifted, and then get back to us with credible pronouncements regarding heat. Like gold Superman. Not so hot after the missing 5K showed up on the website after the first tranche sold out.
I stand by it. "Not hot" isn't the same as "cold". Both offerings are solid but not super hot. There's no evidence of any significant excess demand for either one.
Thanks for the shout out!
Fair enough. Where I come from, a sustained 100%+ premium for weeks after the initial on sale date qualifies as "hot." Clearly, you are far more discerning and demanding than I.
Very few mint issues are instantly resalable for a profit. Even today the Army privy can be sold for cash for $165 on Pure. While a much smaller percentage, the $75 cash premium for the Sac indicates warm. It's certainly better than neutral.
Actually most mint issues are less profitable over time not more so.
Wasn't talking about "over time." I wasn't aware that a "hot" coin had to stay hot in perpetuity.
Offer on Pure is guaranteed until it isn't. Just like completed sales prices on eBay.
You simply cannot say that while the HHL remains in place, and the Mint keeps canceling orders and returning items to inventory. Just like the Army privies.
@jmlanzaf pronounced them "not so hot" while they remained available for over a month. Even though the secondary market bid remained 2x issue price the whole time.
After 5 weeks or so, the HHL was lifted, thousands were gobbled up in a few minutes, not to be seen again on the Mint website since, and to this day, they remain bid at 2x issue price. They were hot the entire time. Still are.
Same with this. Let them sit unsold on the Mint website for a few days after the HHL is lifted, and then get back to us with credible pronouncements regarding heat. Like gold Superman. Not so hot after the missing 5K showed up on the website after the first tranche sold out.
I stand by it. "Not hot" isn't the same as "cold". Both offerings are solid but not super hot. There's no evidence of any significant excess demand for either one.
Thanks for the shout out!
Fair enough. Where I come from, a sustained 100%+ premium for weeks after the initial on sale date qualifies as "hot." Clearly, you are far more discerning and demanding than I.
Very few mint issues are instantly resalable for a profit. Even today the Army privy can be sold for cash for $165 on Pure. While a much smaller percentage, the $75 cash premium for the Sac indicates warm. It's certainly better than neutral.
???? $75? There are multiple completed sales in the last few days on eBay for $2600+ before selling fees. $425+ premium. Not $75.
That's a standing purchase offer. Listing it on ebay is not a sure thing. An auction could result in a net loss. The offer on Pure is guaranteed.
You simply cannot say that while the HHL remains in place, and the Mint keeps canceling orders and returning items to inventory. Just like the Army privies.
@jmlanzaf pronounced them "not so hot" while they remained available for over a month. Even though the secondary market bid remained 2x issue price the whole time.
After 5 weeks or so, the HHL was lifted, thousands were gobbled up in a few minutes, not to be seen again on the Mint website since, and to this day, they remain bid at 2x issue price. They were hot the entire time. Still are.
Same with this. Let them sit unsold on the Mint website for a few days after the HHL is lifted, and then get back to us with credible pronouncements regarding heat. Like gold Superman. Not so hot after the missing 5K showed up on the website after the first tranche sold out.
I stand by it. "Not hot" isn't the same as "cold". Both offerings are solid but not super hot. There's no evidence of any significant excess demand for either one.
Thanks for the shout out!
Fair enough. Where I come from, a sustained 100%+ premium for weeks after the initial on sale date qualifies as "hot." Clearly, you are far more discerning and demanding than I.
Very few mint issues are instantly resalable for a profit. Even today the Army privy can be sold for cash for $165 on Pure. While a much smaller percentage, the $75 cash premium for the Sac indicates warm. It's certainly better than neutral.
Actually most mint issues are less profitable over time not more so.
Wasn't talking about "over time." I wasn't aware that a "hot" coin had to stay hot in perpetuity.
Offer on Pure is guaranteed until it isn't. Just like completed sales prices on eBay.
I have not heard of any stories of sellers not getting paid or transactions cancelled on Pure. Is this happening?
You simply cannot say that while the HHL remains in place, and the Mint keeps canceling orders and returning items to inventory. Just like the Army privies.
@jmlanzaf pronounced them "not so hot" while they remained available for over a month. Even though the secondary market bid remained 2x issue price the whole time.
After 5 weeks or so, the HHL was lifted, thousands were gobbled up in a few minutes, not to be seen again on the Mint website since, and to this day, they remain bid at 2x issue price. They were hot the entire time. Still are.
Same with this. Let them sit unsold on the Mint website for a few days after the HHL is lifted, and then get back to us with credible pronouncements regarding heat. Like gold Superman. Not so hot after the missing 5K showed up on the website after the first tranche sold out.
I stand by it. "Not hot" isn't the same as "cold". Both offerings are solid but not super hot. There's no evidence of any significant excess demand for either one.
Thanks for the shout out!
Fair enough. Where I come from, a sustained 100%+ premium for weeks after the initial on sale date qualifies as "hot." Clearly, you are far more discerning and demanding than I.
Very few mint issues are instantly resalable for a profit. Even today the Army privy can be sold for cash for $165 on Pure. While a much smaller percentage, the $75 cash premium for the Sac indicates warm. It's certainly better than neutral.
???? $75? There are multiple completed sales in the last few days on eBay for $2600+ before selling fees. $425+ premium. Not $75.
That's a standing purchase offer. Listing it on ebay is not a sure thing. An auction could result in a net loss. The offer on Pure is guaranteed.
You simply cannot say that while the HHL remains in place, and the Mint keeps canceling orders and returning items to inventory. Just like the Army privies.
@jmlanzaf pronounced them "not so hot" while they remained available for over a month. Even though the secondary market bid remained 2x issue price the whole time.
After 5 weeks or so, the HHL was lifted, thousands were gobbled up in a few minutes, not to be seen again on the Mint website since, and to this day, they remain bid at 2x issue price. They were hot the entire time. Still are.
Same with this. Let them sit unsold on the Mint website for a few days after the HHL is lifted, and then get back to us with credible pronouncements regarding heat. Like gold Superman. Not so hot after the missing 5K showed up on the website after the first tranche sold out.
I stand by it. "Not hot" isn't the same as "cold". Both offerings are solid but not super hot. There's no evidence of any significant excess demand for either one.
Thanks for the shout out!
Fair enough. Where I come from, a sustained 100%+ premium for weeks after the initial on sale date qualifies as "hot." Clearly, you are far more discerning and demanding than I.
Very few mint issues are instantly resalable for a profit. Even today the Army privy can be sold for cash for $165 on Pure. While a much smaller percentage, the $75 cash premium for the Sac indicates warm. It's certainly better than neutral.
Actually most mint issues are less profitable over time not more so.
Wasn't talking about "over time." I wasn't aware that a "hot" coin had to stay hot in perpetuity.
Offer on Pure is guaranteed until it isn't. Just like completed sales prices on eBay.
I have not heard of any stories of sellers not getting paid or transactions cancelled on Pure. Is this happening?
No. What I mean is that an offer can be there one minute and then gone if the market changes. Just like sales prices on eBay.
A "guarantee" is only as good as the party behind it. Pure supposedly vets users, but doesn't actually guarantee performance itself.
Pure bidders might be more reliable than eBay bidders. But, right now, that probability will only cost a seller $350 out of a potential $425 profit.
Pretty steep if you ask me, considering the vast majority of eBay transactions proceed without a hitch. If that was not the case, they wouldn't have a business. I don't pay that percent of anything I do in order to insure a transaction.
Just like the Army privy. It's only not a sell out because the HHL is still in place and the Mint has been aggressively canceling ineligible orders every day. @jmlanzaf might chime in and say there is no proof of that, but the proof is the fact that the HHL is still in place.
If buyers were actually canceling orders, and the Mint was getting stuck with inventory it couldn't sell, there would be no reason to keep a HHL in place. That's my proof.
It's a sell out if there is an aftermarket bid greater than the Mint price, and if those bidders are prohibited from buying from the Mint. Even if you can buy one directly from the Mint.
People spent weeks here debating whether the Army privy was a dog because it didn't sell out and inventory kept reappearing. They had a good chuckle when a huge amount popped up a few minutes before the HHL was lifted. Then it went Unavailable in a few minutes, inventory has not reappeared since, and the secondary market bid has been pretty consistent.
Turns out it was actually the sell out that was all along. Even though people failed to recognize it due the HHL remaining in place and the Mint continually canceling ineligible orders.
I will speculate that returns are getting resold.
My Saq is perfect however the capsule is flawed.
I got it pretty quick on day one order and it did not appear to be a return.
And some of you all know better than me, when does the weekly gold products price reset.
Gold's been up since these got priced, are we looking at a $100 or $50 list price increase ?
Or stay the same ?
I have no regrets getting mine, as I buy & hold most everything so I done & happy.
Just need to dig up a 1/2 ounce plus a 10th to cash out of to help with this extreme outlay.
Kind of an in-kind gold for gold trade plus a few hundred bucks.
Worth it to me to have a mint direct gold 25th anniversary 24k Saq.
I doubt that there are any returns being sold yet.
They first started arriving to customers last Monday? While I suppose that one could ship the coin back via overnight, it would still need to be physically checked & processed back into inventory the old fashioned way. Not enough time imo.
August 4th in hand 5 days ago via Bullsitter 's post pages ago on this thread
@Bullsitter said:
Looks great, nice, frosted devices.
Quick shots.....marks are on capsule.
Didn't get one of the 12 pcs of the original "Space Flown" Golden Sacagaweas......
@Mr Lindy said:
August 4th in hand 5 days ago via Bullsitter 's post pages ago on this thread
@Bullsitter said:
Looks great, nice, frosted devices.
Quick shots.....marks are on capsule.
Didn't get one of the 12 pcs of the original "Space Flown" Golden Sacagaweas......
Precisely. Thanks for confirming my point. Last Monday was the 4th.
Not a chance that any of the SAC's currently up for sale are returns for the reasons I stated above.
You simply cannot say that while the HHL remains in place, and the Mint keeps canceling orders and returning items to inventory. Just like the Army privies.
@jmlanzaf pronounced them "not so hot" while they remained available for over a month. Even though the secondary market bid remained 2x issue price the whole time.
After 5 weeks or so, the HHL was lifted, thousands were gobbled up in a few minutes, not to be seen again on the Mint website since, and to this day, they remain bid at 2x issue price. They were hot the entire time. Still are.
Same with this. Let them sit unsold on the Mint website for a few days after the HHL is lifted, and then get back to us with credible pronouncements regarding heat. Like gold Superman. Not so hot after the missing 5K showed up on the website after the first tranche sold out.
I stand by it. "Not hot" isn't the same as "cold". Both offerings are solid but not super hot. There's no evidence of any significant excess demand for either one.
Thanks for the shout out!
Fair enough. Where I come from, a sustained 100%+ premium for weeks after the initial on sale date qualifies as "hot." Clearly, you are far more discerning and demanding than I.
Very few mint issues are instantly resalable for a profit. Even today the Army privy can be sold for cash for $165 on Pure. While a much smaller percentage, the $75 cash premium for the Sac indicates warm. It's certainly better than neutral.
???? $75? There are multiple completed sales in the last few days on eBay for $2600+ before selling fees. $425+ premium. Not $75.
That's a standing purchase offer. Listing it on ebay is not a sure thing. An auction could result in a net loss. The offer on Pure is guaranteed.
You simply cannot say that while the HHL remains in place, and the Mint keeps canceling orders and returning items to inventory. Just like the Army privies.
@jmlanzaf pronounced them "not so hot" while they remained available for over a month. Even though the secondary market bid remained 2x issue price the whole time.
After 5 weeks or so, the HHL was lifted, thousands were gobbled up in a few minutes, not to be seen again on the Mint website since, and to this day, they remain bid at 2x issue price. They were hot the entire time. Still are.
Same with this. Let them sit unsold on the Mint website for a few days after the HHL is lifted, and then get back to us with credible pronouncements regarding heat. Like gold Superman. Not so hot after the missing 5K showed up on the website after the first tranche sold out.
I stand by it. "Not hot" isn't the same as "cold". Both offerings are solid but not super hot. There's no evidence of any significant excess demand for either one.
Thanks for the shout out!
Fair enough. Where I come from, a sustained 100%+ premium for weeks after the initial on sale date qualifies as "hot." Clearly, you are far more discerning and demanding than I.
Very few mint issues are instantly resalable for a profit. Even today the Army privy can be sold for cash for $165 on Pure. While a much smaller percentage, the $75 cash premium for the Sac indicates warm. It's certainly better than neutral.
Actually most mint issues are less profitable over time not more so.
Wasn't talking about "over time." I wasn't aware that a "hot" coin had to stay hot in perpetuity.
Offer on Pure is guaranteed until it isn't. Just like completed sales prices on eBay.
I have not heard of any stories of sellers not getting paid or transactions cancelled on Pure. Is this happening?
No. What I mean is that an offer can be there one minute and then gone if the market changes. Just like sales prices on eBay.
A "guarantee" is only as good as the party behind it. Pure supposedly vets users, but doesn't actually guarantee performance itself.
Pure bidders might be more reliable than eBay bidders. But, right now, that probability will only cost a seller $350 out of a potential $425 profit.
Pretty steep if you ask me, considering the vast majority of eBay transactions proceed without a hitch. If that was not the case, they wouldn't have a business. I don't pay that percent of anything I do in order to insure a transaction.
Right, but once you lock in a transaction it's locked. I believe they take payment immediately, so it is guaranteed. Yes, in 2 seconds the buy offer might not be there, but I believe all transactions on Pure are solid.
So, as I said, the Army privy, as of this second, can be sold for $165 cash, guaranteed.
Just like the Army privy. It's only not a sell out because the HHL is still in place and the Mint has been aggressively canceling ineligible orders every day. @jmlanzaf might chime in and say there is no proof of that, but the proof is the fact that the HHL is still in place.
You can define a sellout how you wish. If the mint had orders for the entire inventory at one time I consider it a sell out. Even if they had to cancel some, it's more than clear that the demand exists and the demand is there and there is no question that any canceled orders will be resold timely.
@Onastone said:
But it's not actually sold out yet...
I'm told you can define a sellout however you wish. So, apparently, you can be sold out even though there are coins available. You learn something new every day...
For me it's a sell out as I bought one & allowed no more unless I circumvent their rules.
As far as 24k with cheerios reverse, had the Mint made a hand full of them from additional reverse die wouldn't they offer them thru Heritage like they did with the 24k Flowing Hair Privy s ? Seems they figured out how to get top dollar auctioning off their 2025 super limited collectables.
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Sunday August 9th, just checked & 24k Saq still available
My coin arrived recently, and she is a perfect little beauty. Although it is not a high relief coin, there is a lot of nice detail that is best seen when you look at the coin at a slight angle vs. straight on.
Received mine today and am pleased, the coin looks perfect. Had a little trouble digging the capsule out of the box case to look at the reverse--they really wedged that sucker in there!
Received mine today as well. I was worried about the laser frosting compared to a 2000-2008 proof Sac but I must say it’s beautiful in hand and my fears of that were unnecessary. The details are so pronounced, and it really highlights the details.
My coin arrived recently, and she is a perfect little beauty. Although it is not a high relief coin, there is a lot of nice detail that is best seen when you look at the coin at a slight angle vs. straight on.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
@Raufus said:
Man, will these ever actually sell out?
As soon as they lift the HHL. Just like the Army privies.
It's the right product at the right price with the right mintage. I didn't see it before release, but there is pretty clearly demand for more than 7500 of them. The fact that the Mint won't lift the HHL, and that people keep trying to buy more than the Mint will allow, is evidence that the demand is there. These are not all bad credit cards everyday, less than 24 hours after they are good credit cards.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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Fair enough. Where I come from, a sustained 100%+ premium for weeks after the initial on sale date qualifies as "hot." Clearly, you are far more discerning and demanding than I.
NJcoin
He just lives in an alternate world where only he is right and everyone else is wrong.
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Very few mint issues are instantly resalable for a profit. Even today the Army privy can be sold for cash for $165 on Pure. While a much smaller percentage, the $75 cash premium for the Sac indicates warm. It's certainly better than neutral.
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???? $75? There are multiple completed sales in the last few days on eBay for $2600+ before selling fees. $425+ premium. Not $75.
Not even remotely true or at all related to the conversation that was just had. It is perhaps your reality that needs to be recalibrated. It seems it is you who are disrespecting my opinion, not the other way around.
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Actually most mint issues are less profitable over time not more so.
There are very few modern coins that weren't immediately profitable that became profitable later. I think there's one coin i flipped that is worth more now than when I flipped it.
Don’t you guys have anything better to do ?
That's a standing purchase offer. Listing it on ebay is not a sure thing. An auction could result in a net loss. The offer on Pure is guaranteed.
Wasn't talking about "over time." I wasn't aware that a "hot" coin had to stay hot in perpetuity.
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Than entertain you? No
Offer on Pure is guaranteed until it isn't. Just like completed sales prices on eBay.
I have not heard of any stories of sellers not getting paid or transactions cancelled on Pure. Is this happening?
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The sellout that wasn't?
I knew it would happen.
112 now. I'm sure they'd be sold out by now if they sent those dang email alerts!
No. What I mean is that an offer can be there one minute and then gone if the market changes. Just like sales prices on eBay.
A "guarantee" is only as good as the party behind it. Pure supposedly vets users, but doesn't actually guarantee performance itself.
Pure bidders might be more reliable than eBay bidders. But, right now, that probability will only cost a seller $350 out of a potential $425 profit.
Pretty steep if you ask me, considering the vast majority of eBay transactions proceed without a hitch. If that was not the case, they wouldn't have a business. I don't pay that percent of anything I do in order to insure a transaction.
Just like the Army privy. It's only not a sell out because the HHL is still in place and the Mint has been aggressively canceling ineligible orders every day. @jmlanzaf might chime in and say there is no proof of that, but the proof is the fact that the HHL is still in place.
If buyers were actually canceling orders, and the Mint was getting stuck with inventory it couldn't sell, there would be no reason to keep a HHL in place. That's my proof.
It's a sell out if there is an aftermarket bid greater than the Mint price, and if those bidders are prohibited from buying from the Mint. Even if you can buy one directly from the Mint.
People spent weeks here debating whether the Army privy was a dog because it didn't sell out and inventory kept reappearing. They had a good chuckle when a huge amount popped up a few minutes before the HHL was lifted. Then it went Unavailable in a few minutes, inventory has not reappeared since, and the secondary market bid has been pretty consistent.
Turns out it was actually the sell out that was all along. Even though people failed to recognize it due the HHL remaining in place and the Mint continually canceling ineligible orders.
6 sold in the last hour...
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I will speculate that returns are getting resold.
My Saq is perfect however the capsule is flawed.
I got it pretty quick on day one order and it did not appear to be a return.
And some of you all know better than me, when does the weekly gold products price reset.
Gold's been up since these got priced, are we looking at a $100 or $50 list price increase ?
Or stay the same ?
I have no regrets getting mine, as I buy & hold most everything so I done & happy.
Just need to dig up a 1/2 ounce plus a 10th to cash out of to help with this extreme outlay.
Kind of an in-kind gold for gold trade plus a few hundred bucks.
Worth it to me to have a mint direct gold 25th anniversary 24k Saq.
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I doubt that there are any returns being sold yet.
They first started arriving to customers last Monday? While I suppose that one could ship the coin back via overnight, it would still need to be physically checked & processed back into inventory the old fashioned way. Not enough time imo.
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Precisely. Thanks for confirming my point. Last Monday was the 4th.
Not a chance that any of the SAC's currently up for sale are returns for the reasons I stated above.
Right, but once you lock in a transaction it's locked. I believe they take payment immediately, so it is guaranteed. Yes, in 2 seconds the buy offer might not be there, but I believe all transactions on Pure are solid.
So, as I said, the Army privy, as of this second, can be sold for $165 cash, guaranteed.
You can define a sellout how you wish. If the mint had orders for the entire inventory at one time I consider it a sell out. Even if they had to cancel some, it's more than clear that the demand exists and the demand is there and there is no question that any canceled orders will be resold timely.
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But it's not actually sold out yet...
I'm told you can define a sellout however you wish. So, apparently, you can be sold out even though there are coins available. You learn something new every day...
If I were Mint Director, I would've had 25 of them struck with enhanced tail feathers, that would create a frenzy for sure.
For me it's a sell out as I bought one & allowed no more unless I circumvent their rules.
As far as 24k with cheerios reverse, had the Mint made a hand full of them from additional reverse die wouldn't they offer them thru Heritage like they did with the 24k Flowing Hair Privy s ? Seems they figured out how to get top dollar auctioning off their 2025 super limited collectables.
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Sunday August 9th, just checked & 24k Saq still available
My coin arrived recently, and she is a perfect little beauty. Although it is not a high relief coin, there is a lot of nice detail that is best seen when you look at the coin at a slight angle vs. straight on.
Not only would a tweak to the design have minimal affect on sales, there was a frenzy and the coin sold out very quickly.
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Mine is coming today! I can't wait to get home and ship her to PCGS...
Received mine today and am pleased, the coin looks perfect. Had a little trouble digging the capsule out of the box case to look at the reverse--they really wedged that sucker in there!
Received mine today as well. I was worried about the laser frosting compared to a 2000-2008 proof Sac but I must say it’s beautiful in hand and my fears of that were unnecessary. The details are so pronounced, and it really highlights the details.
Mine is still not ship yet but the charge showed up on the credit card so I hope it will get shipped tomorrow.
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HHL to be lifted by Thur/Fri.
I want a Sacagawea Dollar no other way.
Bag live & HHL remains
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15 minutes later, 6... heading for the daily sellout.
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Man, will these ever actually sell out?
As soon as they lift the HHL. Just like the Army privies.
It's the right product at the right price with the right mintage. I didn't see it before release, but there is pretty clearly demand for more than 7500 of them. The fact that the Mint won't lift the HHL, and that people keep trying to buy more than the Mint will allow, is evidence that the demand is there. These are not all bad credit cards everyday, less than 24 hours after they are good credit cards.
I am not so sure there are 7500 serious Sacagawea collectors, I think many buy to flip.
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HHL BYE BYE !