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Sacagawea 2025 Golden Dollar 24K One Half-Ounce Gold Proof Coin

tincuptincup Posts: 5,392 ✭✭✭✭✭

I see the info on the US mint web site for the upcoming release of this coin. BUT... I'm surprised that the coin will not have markings on it to signify the gold content or fineness. And.... the face value is $1. In other words, looks exactly like a regular Sac dollar, including the diameter.

Could this present a problem in the aftermarket?

----- kj

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,811 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 25, 2025 5:56AM

    Could present a literally golden opportunity for future coin roll hunters, from the sounds of it…


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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,422 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No. But it will be a nightmare for coin dealers.

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,289 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tincup said:
    I see the info on the US mint web site for the upcoming release of this coin. BUT... I'm surprised that the coin will not have markings on it to signify the gold content or fineness. And.... the face value is $1. In other words, looks exactly like a regular Sac dollar, including the diameter.

    Could this present a problem in the aftermarket?

    Guessing that a huge number will be slabbed right away and the rest kept in original packaging. As for the people who think their circulating Sacs are gold, I don't think this issue will exacerbate that problem, nor would marking it .9999 alleviate it. I am surprised there's no such marking though. They even could have put it on the edge, now that they put the date back where it belongs.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,422 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @messydesk said:

    @tincup said:
    I see the info on the US mint web site for the upcoming release of this coin. BUT... I'm surprised that the coin will not have markings on it to signify the gold content or fineness. And.... the face value is $1. In other words, looks exactly like a regular Sac dollar, including the diameter.

    Could this present a problem in the aftermarket?

    Guessing that a huge number will be slabbed right away and the rest kept in original packaging. As for the people who think their circulating Sacs are gold, I don't think this issue will exacerbate that problem, nor would marking it .9999 alleviate it. I am surprised there's no such marking though. They even could have put it on the edge, now that they put the date back where it belongs.

    Oh, it'll exacerbate it. Because now, when they go in the internet, they will find an actual GOLD Sac as a comp.

  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,392 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The one thing I see possibly taking place as a scam.... replace the real gold Sac with the regular issue and use the original Mint packaging. Look out folks.

    ----- kj
  • ms71ms71 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Shouldn't be a major problem I'd think. The gold one is the only one with the date on the obverse.

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  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,392 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ms71 said:
    Shouldn't be a major problem I'd think. The gold one is the only one with the date on the obverse.

    Ah! I had overlooked that!

    ----- kj
  • Alpha2814Alpha2814 Posts: 162 ✭✭✭

    @ms71 said:
    Shouldn't be a major problem I'd think. The gold one is the only one with the date on the obverse.

    Every Sac with the eagle reverse has the date on the obverse.

  • ms71ms71 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 25, 2025 8:17AM

    @Alpha2814 said:

    @ms71 said:
    Shouldn't be a major problem I'd think. The gold one is the only one with the date on the obverse.

    Every Sac with the eagle reverse has the date on the obverse.

    Will there be a 2025-dated non-gold Sac?

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  • Alpha2814Alpha2814 Posts: 162 ✭✭✭
    edited July 25, 2025 9:55AM

    @ms71 said:

    @Alpha2814 said:

    @ms71 said:
    Shouldn't be a major problem I'd think. The gold one is the only one with the date on the obverse.

    Every Sac with the eagle reverse has the date on the obverse.

    Will there be a 2025-dated non-gold Sac?

    As part of the Native American series that's been running since 2009, yes. They have Sacagawea on the obverse; the date and mint mark are on the edge.

    https://www.usmint.gov/native-american-1-coin-2025-rolls-bags-and-boxes-MASTER_NA2025RBB.html

    From 2000 through 2008, they had the date and mint mark on the obverse, and the eagle reverse, exactly like the 2025 gold coin.

  • ms71ms71 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Alpha2814 said:

    @ms71 said:

    @Alpha2814 said:

    @ms71 said:
    Shouldn't be a major problem I'd think. The gold one is the only one with the date on the obverse.

    Every Sac with the eagle reverse has the date on the obverse.

    Will there be a 2025-dated non-gold Sac?

    As part of the Native American series that's been running since 2009, yes. They have Sacagawea on the obverse; the date and mint mark are on the edge.

    https://www.usmint.gov/native-american-1-coin-2025-rolls-bags-and-boxes-MASTER_NA2025RBB.html

    From 2000 through 2008, they had the date and mint mark on the obverse, and the eagle reverse, exactly like the 2025 gold coin.

    So, then, there will be no non-gold 2025 Sac with the 2025 date on the obverse. Should prevent confusion, but you've gotta know to look for the 2025 date on the obverse if you examine an allegedly gold Sac in its OGP.

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  • Morgan WhiteMorgan White Posts: 8,563 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ms71 said:
    Shouldn't be a major problem I'd think. The gold one is the only one with the date on the obverse.

    Also, it literally weighs twice as much.

  • HarlequinHarlequin Posts: 155 ✭✭✭

    Can't wait to hear the horror stories about this one!

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  • RaufusRaufus Posts: 6,850 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Coming soon.
    Whose in for this?

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i suggest a pass due to impaired long-term desirability of the not hot design. this is not a age (reworked saint) or a fh gold

    i will speculate a 10-20 year period of maintaining a good %age over melt. will people care about it in another 25 years?

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  • Weather11amWeather11am Posts: 2,059 ✭✭✭

    @Raufus said:
    Coming soon.
    Whose in for this?

    This is a rare buy for me, I think they’re very cool!

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,289 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Goldbully said:
    From Numismatic News........................


    The 2025 Gold Sacagawea Dollar Will Confuse the Public
    Gold finally meets the “Golden Dollar”—and the public will be baffled.
    Patrick A. Heller
    Published Jul 24, 2025 11:02 AM PDT


    On July 31, the U.S. Mint will accept orders for the 2025 Half Ounce .9999 pure gold Twenty-Fifth Anniversary Dollar, which commemorates the debut of the Sacagawea “Golden Dollar” in 2000. Mintage is limited to 7,500 coins.

    The design will be the same as the obverse and reverse of the 2000-2008 Sacagawea non-gold Golden Dollars, except for the 2025 date and the W mintmark for the coins being struck at the West Point, New York Mint.

    Of course, even though they were marketed as “Golden Dollars,” the 2000-2008 Sacagawea Dollars, 2009-date Native American Dollars that still feature Sacagawea on the obverse, the Presidential Dollars that debuted in 2007, and the American Innovation Dollars that debuted in 2018 do not contain one speck of gold. Instead, their metal content is 88-1/2 percent copper, 6 percent zinc, 3-1/2 percent manganese, and 2 percent nickel.

    The gold issues will have almost the same diameter as the non-gold Golden Dollars. The difference in color between the gold and the non-gold Golden Dollars will be so minimal that the general public is unlikely to be able to tell the difference.

    Most people are aware that the Golden Dollars don’t really have any gold in them. But once the Mint advertises the sale of the 2025 Gold Sacagawea Dollar, which does have gold, I expect there will be significant public confusion. I anticipate a surge of people who will contact collectors and dealers, asking if any of their Golden Dollars from 2000 onward contain gold.


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    This will be a far bigger problem if the lay media picks up on it and reports it as carelessly as they tend to. That is the reason most people that bang down the B&M shop doors looking for their 2 million dollars for a parking lot wheatie.

  • RaufusRaufus Posts: 6,850 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm on the fence. I think they look cool. Gold is just so high.

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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,572 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why not make a tenth ounce gold shield/Lincoln cent to close out a series. And that’s all.

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,572 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dollars and cents in gold. Then quit making both (small dollars and cents)

  • OnastoneOnastone Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I do wish the tail was detailed as in the Cheerios versions. Seemed like it was a perfect opportunity to make that happen.

  • HalfDimeHalfDime Posts: 419 ✭✭✭✭

    7488 is loaded as initial inventory. So no bulk buyers in this.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,422 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 28, 2025 5:40PM

    @HalfDime said:
    7488 is loaded as initial inventory. So no bulk buyers in this.

    That game didn't work on the Liberty thread, I'm not sure it works here.

    Edited to add: although I haven't seen any advanced release for sale

  • eCoinquesteCoinquest Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭

    Think this one will be botted on order day at the Mint? I do

  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 2,990 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @eCoinquest said:
    Think this one will be botted on order day at the Mint? I do

    Why?

  • Dollar2007Dollar2007 Posts: 765 ✭✭✭

    It makes it extra cool. Stop making it a problem it won’t be. No one is going to buy this and spend it.

  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,070 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Dollar2007 said:
    It makes it extra cool. Stop making it a problem it won’t be. No one is going to buy this and spend it.

    I think what some folks are concerned about is that non-collectors will be showing up at coin shops or the PCGS boards or wherever with regular production coins and they might expect them to be the golden lottery ticket.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,422 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TomB said:

    @Dollar2007 said:
    It makes it extra cool. Stop making it a problem it won’t be. No one is going to buy this and spend it.

    I think what some folks are concerned about is that non-collectors will be showing up at coin shops or the PCGS boards or wherever with regular production coins and they might expect them to be the golden lottery ticket.

    Exactly. That already happens and there aren't pictures of actual 24k gold versions.

  • goldbuffalogoldbuffalo Posts: 645 ✭✭✭

    Really should’ve put .9999 gold on it that would’ve made it elite and very cool.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    we are going to have trolls over this

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  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,392 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @goldbuffalo said:
    Really should’ve put .9999 gold on it that would’ve made it elite and very cool.

    Would have made sense to me to do so.

    ----- kj
  • eCoinquesteCoinquest Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭

    @NJCoin said:

    @eCoinquest said:
    Think this one will be botted on order day at the Mint? I do

    Why?

    I guess I’m just a biased Sacagawea Dollar collector who thinks these are the coolest thing from the mint in a long time! But yes agreed the lack of gold markings will only increase the already rampant confusion about these. Everyone and their brother (almost quite literally) thinks they have a rare Cheerios or now gold dollar

  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 2,990 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @eCoinquest said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @eCoinquest said:
    Think this one will be botted on order day at the Mint? I do

    Why?

    I guess I’m just a biased Sacagawea Dollar collector who thinks these are the coolest thing from the mint in a long time! But yes agreed the lack of gold markings will only increase the already rampant confusion about these. Everyone and their brother (almost quite literally) thinks they have a rare Cheerios or now gold dollar

    Right. I was just asking why "Think this one will be botted on order day at the Mint? I do"?

    The fact that any one of us loves any individual release does not we think it "will be botted on order day at the Mint." So I was wondering if you knew something I didn't, like the buying clubs soliciting people to buy them, or dealer bids I haven't seen.

    Because, if not, no reason to think a gold tribute to a 25 year old coin not too many people cared about 25 years ago is going to be "botted." Even one you happen to think is "the coolest thing from the mint in a long time."

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