Why this 1974-S Eisenhower in rattler holder worth $2100 ?

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BenjaminTo
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edited August 5, 2025 3:53PM in U.S. Coin Forum


I understand that rattler holder contains premium, but why this coin worth this much. Last auction on 1974-s in rattler in $118

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  • MEJ7070
    MEJ7070 Posts: 953 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Wow.

    Best guess is 2 bidders thought it could upgrade all the way to 69?

    That or 2 people needed an Ike for a rattler type set?

  • WinLoseWin
    WinLoseWin Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Is it a white label or just faded looking like a white label?

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  • BenjaminTo
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    @MEJ7070 said:
    Wow.

    Best guess is 2 bidders thought it could upgrade all the way to 69?

    That or 2 people needed an Ike for a rattler type set?

    I am not sure about it. I do not think anyone would buy a coin for a chance of gold cac, it is really hard and not guaranteed. Also, I do not it is hard to find 1974s in ms67, you could pay $300-400 and someone would be happy to sell

  • BenjaminTo
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    @WinLoseWin said:
    Is it a white label or just faded looking like a white label?

    no, it is not white lable, white lable start with 108xxxx.

  • braddick
    braddick Posts: 25,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    This one closed a couple of days ago, much, much cheaper.
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/187405822418

  • AZDAVY
    AZDAVY Posts: 179 ✭✭✭✭
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    What is interesting is I bought the one shown by @braddick on great collections might have been the only bidder at 100 opening bid. It does have an interesting label. Happy to sell it after a few weeks on the bay. No idea why the one shown went for over 2000.

  • 291fifth
    291fifth Posts: 25,218 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Another case of more money than sense?

    All glory is fleeting.
  • BenjaminTo
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    @braddick said:
    This one closed a couple of days ago, much, much cheaper.
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/187405822418

    That's why I ask myself what so special about it or I missed something

  • Cougar1978
    Cougar1978 Posts: 10,067 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 10, 2025 6:31PM
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    Don’t see it upgrading.

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  • johnny010
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    Top pop in rattler for that year.

  • BillJones
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    @johnny010 said:
    Top pop in rattler for that year.

    Whoppie!

    Are there similar or better ones in the large PCGS holders? I have never been a fan of rattle holders. More than a decade ago, I used to pay to have rattle holders re-holdered. Silly me.

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  • johnny010
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    @BillJones said:

    @johnny010 said:
    Top pop in rattler for that year.

    Whoppie!

    Are there similar or better ones in the large PCGS holders? I have never been a fan of rattle holders. More than a decade ago, I used to pay to have rattle holders re-holdered. Silly me.

    Yes to myself and many other rattler collectors, we value the top pops for the day based on the October of 1989 report. Many reasons come to mind:
    1) historical preservation
    2) pre-grade-inflation
    3) Americana
    4) rarity
    5) the hunt

    Most coins out there you can buy them if you have the money. Not the case with rattlers as it add much more complexity to collecting because many were cracked out. This additional twist makes collecting/the hunt that much more fun.

    Coin isn’t mine, but that should explain the “whoopie” portion of your post.

  • braddick
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    @BenjaminTo said:

    @braddick said:
    This one closed a couple of days ago, much, much cheaper.
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/187405822418

    That's why I ask myself what so special about it or I missed something

    Listed again on eBay by the new owner. Sold pretty quickly:
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/197601148517

  • BillJones
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    @johnny010 said:

    @BillJones said:

    @johnny010 said:
    Top pop in rattler for that year.

    Whoppie!

    Are there similar or better ones in the large PCGS holders? I have never been a fan of rattle holders. More than a decade ago, I used to pay to have rattle holders re-holdered. Silly me.

    Yes to myself and many other rattler collectors, we value the top pops for the day based on the October of 1989 report. Many reasons come to mind:
    1) historical preservation
    2) pre-grade-inflation
    3) Americana
    4) rarity
    5) the hunt

    Most coins out there you can buy them if you have the money. Not the case with rattlers as it add much more complexity to collecting because many were cracked out. This additional twist makes collecting/the hunt that much more fun.

    Coin isn’t mine, but that should explain the “whoopie” portion of your post.

    I don’t care about the rattle holder. I disliked them because many of them rattle. They were often an inferior storage device. I had a $10 Liberty gold piece that rattled, and I cracked it out for exactly that reason.

    The history of third party grading holders means nothing to me. It’s the coin which counts. If the coin rattles in the holder, I don’t like it. That goes for any holder, including Capital Plastics, came before third party grading.

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  • braddick
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    @BillJones said:

    @johnny010 said:

    @BillJones said:

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    I don’t care about the rattle holder. I disliked them because many of them rattle. They were often an inferior storage device. I had a $10 Liberty gold piece that rattled, and I cracked it out for exactly that reason.

    The history of third party grading holders means nothing to me. It’s the coin which counts. If the coin rattles in the holder, I don’t like it.** That goes for any holder,** including Capital Plastics, came before third party grading.

    If you owned that exact $10. Liberty in a Doily that rattled, would you still bust it out?

  • BillJones
    BillJones Posts: 35,935 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @braddick said:

    @BillJones said:

    @johnny010 said:

    @BillJones said:

    .

    I don’t care about the rattle holder. I disliked them because many of them rattle. They were often an inferior storage device. I had a $10 Liberty gold piece that rattled, and I cracked it out for exactly that reason.

    The history of third party grading holders means nothing to me. It’s the coin which counts. If the coin rattles in the holder, I don’t like it.** That goes for any holder,** including Capital Plastics, came before third party grading.

    If you owned that exact $10. Liberty in a Doily that rattled, would you still bust it out?

    I would only keep it if I liked the coin. I don’t care about doilies. I collect coins, not slab labels or shapes. I don’t like holders that rattle, period.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • Catbert
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    Tell us how your really feel, Bill! :)

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  • davewesen
    davewesen Posts: 6,982 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Just because an auction closes at a certain price does not mean the item is worth that amount, it only means 2 bidders were willing to bid that much and a bid increment lower.

  • jmlanzaf
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    @davewesen said:
    Just because an auction closes at a certain price does not mean the item is worth that amount, it only means 2 bidders were willing to bid that much and a bid increment lower.

    True. But if we can't glean value from transactions then there is no value assignable to any object.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

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