@jmlanzaf said:
Now we'll find out what the actual demand is. It should be interesting
How? We will only ever know that the demand is at least 100k, because that it the amount sold.
Not true. The final demand could be 50,000 in which case the price will start dropping as they can't move product. Or the final demand could be 125,000 in which case the price will stay the same or move up as people try to get them.
We don't know how many of the 100,000 coins are in the hands of resellers instead of collectors. That's why I always refer to this period as the "distribution" period. It's not until the coins get to the end user that you can judge the final demand.
You said "actual demand" in your post. The mint made 100k and sold 100k. Thus we know the actual demand is at least 100k consisting of retail and collector demand. Doesn't matter who the buyer is because if they weren't in demand they wouldn't have been purchased by either group. Actual demand could be higher than 100k but we'll never know.
If you're talking about collector demand, yes that is to be determined.
@HalfDime said:
I believe that the US Mint track record remains in tact, they have never been able to sell out 100,000 coins with a HHL limit of only 1.
Many had logged in for the lifting, and they end up doing it late in the day instead.
That's not true. RECENTLY they haven't been able to do it
@jmlanzaf said:
Now we'll find out what the actual demand is. It should be interesting
How? We will only ever know that the demand is at least 100k, because that it the amount sold.
Not true. The final demand could be 50,000 in which case the price will start dropping as they can't move product. Or the final demand could be 125,000 in which case the price will stay the same or move up as people try to get them.
We don't know how many of the 100,000 coins are in the hands of resellers instead of collectors. That's why I always refer to this period as the "distribution" period. It's not until the coins get to the end user that you can judge the final demand.
You said "actual demand" in your post. The mint made 100k and sold 100k. Thus we know the actual demand is at least 100k consisting of retail and collector demand. Doesn't matter who the buyer is because if they weren't in demand they wouldn't have been purchased by either group. Actual demand could be higher than 100k but we'll never know.
If you're talking about collector demand, yes that is to be determined.
No. You can turn it into a semantic debate if you want, but you already contradicted yourself in the same paragraph by pointing out the actual demand could be higher. All we know is "sales" which could include 40,000 coins that are still in the inventory of resellers. Call it whatever you want, but we have no idea what the retail demand is.
@RichR said:
Either the 18,000 number earlier today was a glitch before the HHL was lifted...or it's not really sold out and more will become available at some point...because 18,000 did not sell today regardless of the limit being lifted.
No, that many certainly did sell. Buyers were monitoring this, ready to scoop up hundreds each.
@jmlanzaf said:
Now we'll find out what the actual demand is. It should be interesting
How? We will only ever know that the demand is at least 100k, because that it the amount sold.
Not true. The final demand could be 50,000 in which case the price will start dropping as they can't move product. Or the final demand could be 125,000 in which case the price will stay the same or move up as people try to get them.
We don't know how many of the 100,000 coins are in the hands of resellers instead of collectors. That's why I always refer to this period as the "distribution" period. It's not until the coins get to the end user that you can judge the final demand.
You said "actual demand" in your post. The mint made 100k and sold 100k. Thus we know the actual demand is at least 100k consisting of retail and collector demand. Doesn't matter who the buyer is because if they weren't in demand they wouldn't have been purchased by either group. Actual demand could be higher than 100k but we'll never know.
If you're talking about collector demand, yes that is to be determined.
No. You can turn it into a semantic debate if you want, but you already contradicted yourself in the same paragraph by pointing out the actual demand could be higher. All we know is "sales" which could include 40,000 coins that are still in the inventory of resellers. Call it whatever you want, but we have no idea what the retail demand is.
No, that's not a contradiction. I said actual demand is at least 100k and then I said it could be higher. Those statements do not disagree.
And it's not about semantics. Any discussion about demand once they are no longer available at mint issue price is academic because the price point will be different. It's apples and oranges to discuss demand for the same product at $200 vs $105. The only meaningful discussion of demand has to be at mint issue price, and that question is settled.
@jmlanzaf said:
Now we'll find out what the actual demand is. It should be interesting
How? We will only ever know that the demand is at least 100k, because that it the amount sold.
Not true. The final demand could be 50,000 in which case the price will start dropping as they can't move product. Or the final demand could be 125,000 in which case the price will stay the same or move up as people try to get them.
We don't know how many of the 100,000 coins are in the hands of resellers instead of collectors. That's why I always refer to this period as the "distribution" period. It's not until the coins get to the end user that you can judge the final demand.
You said "actual demand" in your post. The mint made 100k and sold 100k. Thus we know the actual demand is at least 100k consisting of retail and collector demand. Doesn't matter who the buyer is because if they weren't in demand they wouldn't have been purchased by either group. Actual demand could be higher than 100k but we'll never know.
If you're talking about collector demand, yes that is to be determined.
No. You can turn it into a semantic debate if you want, but you already contradicted yourself in the same paragraph by pointing out the actual demand could be higher. All we know is "sales" which could include 40,000 coins that are still in the inventory of resellers. Call it whatever you want, but we have no idea what the retail demand is.
No, that's not a contradiction. I said actual demand is at least 100k and then I said it could be higher. Those statements do not disagree.
And it's not about semantics. Any discussion about demand once they are no longer available at mint issue price is academic because the price point will be different. It's apples and oranges to discuss demand for the same product at $200 vs $105. The only meaningful discussion of demand has to be at mint issue price, and that question is settled.
I've said all I need to. I will simply point you to the hundreds of the now bullion priced previous sell outs who discovered that the retail demand was less, often far less, than the original sales. Rhetorical question: why do you think this price drops occurred?
@jmlanzaf said:
Now we'll find out what the actual demand is. It should be interesting
How? We will only ever know that the demand is at least 100k, because that it the amount sold.
Not true. The final demand could be 50,000 in which case the price will start dropping as they can't move product. Or the final demand could be 125,000 in which case the price will stay the same or move up as people try to get them.
We don't know how many of the 100,000 coins are in the hands of resellers instead of collectors. That's why I always refer to this period as the "distribution" period. It's not until the coins get to the end user that you can judge the final demand.
You said "actual demand" in your post. The mint made 100k and sold 100k. Thus we know the actual demand is at least 100k consisting of retail and collector demand. Doesn't matter who the buyer is because if they weren't in demand they wouldn't have been purchased by either group. Actual demand could be higher than 100k but we'll never know.
If you're talking about collector demand, yes that is to be determined.
No. You can turn it into a semantic debate if you want, but you already contradicted yourself in the same paragraph by pointing out the actual demand could be higher. All we know is "sales" which could include 40,000 coins that are still in the inventory of resellers. Call it whatever you want, but we have no idea what the retail demand is.
No, that's not a contradiction. I said actual demand is at least 100k and then I said it could be higher. Those statements do not disagree.
And it's not about semantics. Any discussion about demand once they are no longer available at mint issue price is academic because the price point will be different. It's apples and oranges to discuss demand for the same product at $200 vs $105. The only meaningful discussion of demand has to be at mint issue price, and that question is settled.
I've said all I need to. I will simply point you to the hundreds of the now bullion priced previous sell outs who discovered that the retail demand was less, often far less, than the original sales. Rhetorical question: why do you think this price drops occurred?
I know you said it was rhetorical, but the answer is that demand is also not static.
Still on backorder on a 7/2 order. It would be nice for them to acknowledge that this is a good order by placing it into some kind of in-process status. I mean, tomorrow makes a month that they've had to test the funding source or uncover some kind straw man purchase operation heh. Status change should have been done on the 29th imo. Nevertheless, it is still on backorder and i'm sure i am not the only one.
The four proof silver eagles this year at 100k mintage will be considered semi-key coins in the series and should hold over $200 or even go up a bit from there for raw. When the market gets flooded like this, similar to 2008, the buyers get rewarded later.
Next year we will also be flooded with collectors coins and the same thing will happen with gold.
The experiment the mint did this time with the HHl proves they do not have 100k individual households that will buy, but that doesn't mean demand is not over 100k. Demand may have been for more than 1 coin per household. The mint limited demand by imposing a HHL of only 1.
If the HHL had been 2, many would have bought 2 and held them. It would have sold out fast, and some would have kept 2 as investments instead of flipping.
If anyone is buying proof silver eagles this year, the ones to buy are the 100k mintage coins and not the regular proofs that have 150k plus mintages.
However, no mintage is listed for the S Proof silver eagle for Sept 23rd. Chances are it is over 100k, but they might surprise us. If it is 75k then it will be the best one for the year.
@jmlanzaf said:
Now we'll find out what the actual demand is. It should be interesting
How? We will only ever know that the demand is at least 100k, because that it the amount sold.
Not true. The final demand could be 50,000 in which case the price will start dropping as they can't move product. Or the final demand could be 125,000 in which case the price will stay the same or move up as people try to get them.
We don't know how many of the 100,000 coins are in the hands of resellers instead of collectors. That's why I always refer to this period as the "distribution" period. It's not until the coins get to the end user that you can judge the final demand.
You said "actual demand" in your post. The mint made 100k and sold 100k. Thus we know the actual demand is at least 100k consisting of retail and collector demand. Doesn't matter who the buyer is because if they weren't in demand they wouldn't have been purchased by either group. Actual demand could be higher than 100k but we'll never know.
If you're talking about collector demand, yes that is to be determined.
No. You can turn it into a semantic debate if you want, but you already contradicted yourself in the same paragraph by pointing out the actual demand could be higher. All we know is "sales" which could include 40,000 coins that are still in the inventory of resellers. Call it whatever you want, but we have no idea what the retail demand is.
No, that's not a contradiction. I said actual demand is at least 100k and then I said it could be higher. Those statements do not disagree.
And it's not about semantics. Any discussion about demand once they are no longer available at mint issue price is academic because the price point will be different. It's apples and oranges to discuss demand for the same product at $200 vs $105. The only meaningful discussion of demand has to be at mint issue price, and that question is settled.
I've said all I need to. I will simply point you to the hundreds of the now bullion priced previous sell outs who discovered that the retail demand was less, often far less, than the original sales. Rhetorical question: why do you think this price drops occurred?
I know you said it was rhetorical, but the answer is that demand is also not static.
That's an answer. They other answer is that concentration of inventory masquerades as demand. Most of those previous issues are below issue price in 12 months. That's not shifting demand, it's shifting inventory.
@jmlanzaf said:
Now we'll find out what the actual demand is. It should be interesting
How? We will only ever know that the demand is at least 100k, because that it the amount sold.
Not true. The final demand could be 50,000 in which case the price will start dropping as they can't move product. Or the final demand could be 125,000 in which case the price will stay the same or move up as people try to get them.
We don't know how many of the 100,000 coins are in the hands of resellers instead of collectors. That's why I always refer to this period as the "distribution" period. It's not until the coins get to the end user that you can judge the final demand.
You said "actual demand" in your post. The mint made 100k and sold 100k. Thus we know the actual demand is at least 100k consisting of retail and collector demand. Doesn't matter who the buyer is because if they weren't in demand they wouldn't have been purchased by either group. Actual demand could be higher than 100k but we'll never know.
If you're talking about collector demand, yes that is to be determined.
No. You can turn it into a semantic debate if you want, but you already contradicted yourself in the same paragraph by pointing out the actual demand could be higher. All we know is "sales" which could include 40,000 coins that are still in the inventory of resellers. Call it whatever you want, but we have no idea what the retail demand is.
No, that's not a contradiction. I said actual demand is at least 100k and then I said it could be higher. Those statements do not disagree.
And it's not about semantics. Any discussion about demand once they are no longer available at mint issue price is academic because the price point will be different. It's apples and oranges to discuss demand for the same product at $200 vs $105. The only meaningful discussion of demand has to be at mint issue price, and that question is settled.
I've said all I need to. I will simply point you to the hundreds of the now bullion priced previous sell outs who discovered that the retail demand was less, often far less, than the original sales. Rhetorical question: why do you think this price drops occurred?
I know you said it was rhetorical, but the answer is that demand is also not static.
That's an answer. They other answer is that concentration of inventory masquerades as demand. Most of those previous issues are below issue price in 12 months. That's not shifting demand, it's shifting inventory.
That's why making predictions right now is speculative.
@jmlanzaf said:
Now we'll find out what the actual demand is. It should be interesting
How? We will only ever know that the demand is at least 100k, because that it the amount sold.
Not true. The final demand could be 50,000 in which case the price will start dropping as they can't move product. Or the final demand could be 125,000 in which case the price will stay the same or move up as people try to get them.
We don't know how many of the 100,000 coins are in the hands of resellers instead of collectors. That's why I always refer to this period as the "distribution" period. It's not until the coins get to the end user that you can judge the final demand.
You said "actual demand" in your post. The mint made 100k and sold 100k. Thus we know the actual demand is at least 100k consisting of retail and collector demand. Doesn't matter who the buyer is because if they weren't in demand they wouldn't have been purchased by either group. Actual demand could be higher than 100k but we'll never know.
If you're talking about collector demand, yes that is to be determined.
No. You can turn it into a semantic debate if you want, but you already contradicted yourself in the same paragraph by pointing out the actual demand could be higher. All we know is "sales" which could include 40,000 coins that are still in the inventory of resellers. Call it whatever you want, but we have no idea what the retail demand is.
No, that's not a contradiction. I said actual demand is at least 100k and then I said it could be higher. Those statements do not disagree.
And it's not about semantics. Any discussion about demand once they are no longer available at mint issue price is academic because the price point will be different. It's apples and oranges to discuss demand for the same product at $200 vs $105. The only meaningful discussion of demand has to be at mint issue price, and that question is settled.
I've said all I need to. I will simply point you to the hundreds of the now bullion priced previous sell outs who discovered that the retail demand was less, often far less, than the original sales. Rhetorical question: why do you think this price drops occurred?
I know you said it was rhetorical, but the answer is that demand is also not static.
That's an answer. They other answer is that concentration of inventory masquerades as demand. Most of those previous issues are below issue price in 12 months. That's not shifting demand, it's shifting inventory.
That's why making predictions right now is speculative.
@jmlanzaf said:
Now we'll find out what the actual demand is. It should be interesting
How? We will only ever know that the demand is at least 100k, because that it the amount sold.
Not true. The final demand could be 50,000 in which case the price will start dropping as they can't move product. Or the final demand could be 125,000 in which case the price will stay the same or move up as people try to get them.
We don't know how many of the 100,000 coins are in the hands of resellers instead of collectors. That's why I always refer to this period as the "distribution" period. It's not until the coins get to the end user that you can judge the final demand.
You said "actual demand" in your post. The mint made 100k and sold 100k. Thus we know the actual demand is at least 100k consisting of retail and collector demand. Doesn't matter who the buyer is because if they weren't in demand they wouldn't have been purchased by either group. Actual demand could be higher than 100k but we'll never know.
If you're talking about collector demand, yes that is to be determined.
No. You can turn it into a semantic debate if you want, but you already contradicted yourself in the same paragraph by pointing out the actual demand could be higher. All we know is "sales" which could include 40,000 coins that are still in the inventory of resellers. Call it whatever you want, but we have no idea what the retail demand is.
No, that's not a contradiction. I said actual demand is at least 100k and then I said it could be higher. Those statements do not disagree.
And it's not about semantics. Any discussion about demand once they are no longer available at mint issue price is academic because the price point will be different. It's apples and oranges to discuss demand for the same product at $200 vs $105. The only meaningful discussion of demand has to be at mint issue price, and that question is settled.
I've said all I need to. I will simply point you to the hundreds of the now bullion priced previous sell outs who discovered that the retail demand was less, often far less, than the original sales. Rhetorical question: why do you think this price drops occurred?
I know you said it was rhetorical, but the answer is that demand is also not static.
That's an answer. They other answer is that concentration of inventory masquerades as demand. Most of those previous issues are below issue price in 12 months. That's not shifting demand, it's shifting inventory.
That's why making predictions right now is speculative.
@SuperRecord said:
Unfortunately I'm so new to the hobby
buy it because you like it, not because you will make money
I purchased this particular coin because my Father fought in Vietnam as a Warrant Officer in his 30's. I'm going to buy the Marine Corps release to honor his service when he was a 18 year old Marine fighting in Korea. Two branches, two wars. A better Man than me.
@furywiz said:
My first has been delivered. Small hit in the rim between 2 and 0 in 2025 that will keep it at a 69.
Return and Re-Buy...
That doesn't happen with items that are Unavailable. If you return it, you get your money back, and re-buy on eBay, where you not only also have no control over what you get, but will be paying more than twice as much for the privilege.
No. You either live with it, flip it, or just get your money back and move on with things like this. The Mint does not hold back inventory on items that are Unavailable to service exchanges.
@furywiz said:
My first has been delivered. Small hit in the rim between 2 and 0 in 2025 that will keep it at a 69.
Return and Re-Buy...
Why not sell for a profit?
That’s what’s happening.
On a maybe unrelated note, I woke up to Pure emails nagging me for shipping these when most haven’t even gotten them in yet, wondering if they will say this violates the TOS and the buyers at $230 will now be able to back out.
@furywiz said:
My first has been delivered. Small hit in the rim between 2 and 0 in 2025 that will keep it at a 69.
Return and Re-Buy...
Why not sell for a profit?
That’s what’s happening.
On a maybe unrelated note, I woke up to Pure emails nagging me for shipping these when most haven’t even gotten them in yet, wondering if they will say this violates the TOS and the buyers at $230 will now be able to back out.
I happened to read on a coin blog, a quoted email from "Pure" customer service that this particular item, since it is a 'pre-order' item, is treated with a 51 day shipping 'grace period' (in my own words). They nonetheless recommend selling with item in hand due to random cancellations. But I supposed that Pure is free to exercise the written 3 day shipping rule or honor a non-written shipping delay period for a 'pre sale' item.
@furywiz said:
My first has been delivered. Small hit in the rim between 2 and 0 in 2025 that will keep it at a 69.
Return and Re-Buy...
Why not sell for a profit?
That’s what’s happening.
On a maybe unrelated note, I woke up to Pure emails nagging me for shipping these when most haven’t even gotten them in yet, wondering if they will say this violates the TOS and the buyers at $230 will now be able to back out.
I happened to read on a coin blog, a quoted email from "Pure" customer service that this particular item, since it is a 'pre-order' item, is treated with a 51 day shipping 'grace period' (in my own words). They nonetheless recommend selling with item in hand due to random cancellations. But I supposed that Pure is free to exercise the written 3 day shipping rule or honor a non-written shipping delay period for a 'pre sale' item.
I’m more so wondering if the buyer would put pressure on Pure to be able to back out since bid is $55 lower. Pure doesn’t have a dog in the fight on the price itself really, I don’t think.
RC Tv is selling autographed FDOI 70s for over $600 with a small discount if you buy 3 or 5 at a time.
Makes magic Mike look cheap.
1 for $695
3 for $665 each
5 for $659 each
Autographed by Gaudioso
" If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. " The 1st Law of Opposition from The Firesign Theater
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BlitzDude probably hoovered em all up!
RGDS!
I believe that the US Mint track record remains in tact, they have never been able to sell out 100,000 coins with a HHL limit of only 1.
Many had logged in for the lifting, and they end up doing it late in the day instead.
You said "actual demand" in your post. The mint made 100k and sold 100k. Thus we know the actual demand is at least 100k consisting of retail and collector demand. Doesn't matter who the buyer is because if they weren't in demand they wouldn't have been purchased by either group. Actual demand could be higher than 100k but we'll never know.
If you're talking about collector demand, yes that is to be determined.
http://ProofCollection.Net
The exact time of HHL release is not known but my orders went in around 6:30ish est
Checked before I went to work and it was still processing. Checked again on my lunch break and it shipped.
Throw a coin enough times, and suppose one day it lands on its edge.
That's not true. RECENTLY they haven't been able to do it
No. You can turn it into a semantic debate if you want, but you already contradicted yourself in the same paragraph by pointing out the actual demand could be higher. All we know is "sales" which could include 40,000 coins that are still in the inventory of resellers. Call it whatever you want, but we have no idea what the retail demand is.
No, that many certainly did sell. Buyers were monitoring this, ready to scoop up hundreds each.
No, that's not a contradiction. I said actual demand is at least 100k and then I said it could be higher. Those statements do not disagree.
And it's not about semantics. Any discussion about demand once they are no longer available at mint issue price is academic because the price point will be different. It's apples and oranges to discuss demand for the same product at $200 vs $105. The only meaningful discussion of demand has to be at mint issue price, and that question is settled.
http://ProofCollection.Net
I certainly wish that was the case but I missed the HHL lift. And all my original orders are still showing backorder. CRZY WRLD!
I've said all I need to. I will simply point you to the hundreds of the now bullion priced previous sell outs who discovered that the retail demand was less, often far less, than the original sales. Rhetorical question: why do you think this price drops occurred?
Made it to local post office already. Expected delivery today by 9:00 PM 😁😁
Mine just went to processing. I’m late to the party.
I know you said it was rhetorical, but the answer is that demand is also not static.
http://ProofCollection.Net
My order shows out for delivery by 8pm MTN time today. I chose the 5.95 mailing option so wasn't expecting it to arrive so soon.
Still on backorder on a 7/2 order. It would be nice for them to acknowledge that this is a good order by placing it into some kind of in-process status. I mean, tomorrow makes a month that they've had to test the funding source or uncover some kind straw man purchase operation heh. Status change should have been done on the 29th imo. Nevertheless, it is still on backorder and i'm sure i am not the only one.
The four proof silver eagles this year at 100k mintage will be considered semi-key coins in the series and should hold over $200 or even go up a bit from there for raw. When the market gets flooded like this, similar to 2008, the buyers get rewarded later.
Next year we will also be flooded with collectors coins and the same thing will happen with gold.
The experiment the mint did this time with the HHl proves they do not have 100k individual households that will buy, but that doesn't mean demand is not over 100k. Demand may have been for more than 1 coin per household. The mint limited demand by imposing a HHL of only 1.
If the HHL had been 2, many would have bought 2 and held them. It would have sold out fast, and some would have kept 2 as investments instead of flipping.
If anyone is buying proof silver eagles this year, the ones to buy are the 100k mintage coins and not the regular proofs that have 150k plus mintages.
However, no mintage is listed for the S Proof silver eagle for Sept 23rd. Chances are it is over 100k, but they might surprise us. If it is 75k then it will be the best one for the year.
I ordered mine on June 13th.
I have an order confirmation email.
There's a hold on the funds in my bank account.
... and as of a few minutes ago, my order is still showing as on Back Order.
Sugar magnolia blossoms blooming, heads all empty and I don't care ...
That's an answer. They other answer is that concentration of inventory masquerades as demand. Most of those previous issues are below issue price in 12 months. That's not shifting demand, it's shifting inventory.
Beautiful coin.
That's why making predictions right now is speculative.
And such a waste of time.
ebay sales about 180 now. they're coming down
Not if you actually like coins
Delivered !! that was fast. USPS must be on stimulants.
I used the cheapest regular shipping.
Are the next Privy coins going to be Pre-order like this one? and wait 6 weeks after ordering for shipping?
Super !! Very Nice. How's the grade look? Pr 70 ?? Thanks for sharing pictures.
error. it is min 200 now
My first has been delivered. Small hit in the rim between 2 and 0 in 2025 that will keep it at a 69.
update: Aug 1 of the four raw presale items sold the average purchase price is $231.75 (two items being $250)
Glad to read that some coins have been successfully delivered. Mine is on "backorder".
Unfortunately I'm so new to the hobby that I'm not remotely qualified to venture an opinion other than "beautiful" Thank you.
buy it because you like it, not because you will make money
I purchased this particular coin because my Father fought in Vietnam as a Warrant Officer in his 30's. I'm going to buy the Marine Corps release to honor his service when he was a 18 year old Marine fighting in Korea. Two branches, two wars. A better Man than me.
Return and Re-Buy...
BST references available on request
Why not sell for a profit?
http://ProofCollection.Net
That doesn't happen with items that are Unavailable. If you return it, you get your money back, and re-buy on eBay, where you not only also have no control over what you get, but will be paying more than twice as much for the privilege.
No. You either live with it, flip it, or just get your money back and move on with things like this. The Mint does not hold back inventory on items that are Unavailable to service exchanges.
That’s what’s happening.
On a maybe unrelated note, I woke up to Pure emails nagging me for shipping these when most haven’t even gotten them in yet, wondering if they will say this violates the TOS and the buyers at $230 will now be able to back out.
Two orders still backorder, one label printed awaiting USPS.
My original opening day 6/13 order is still showing backordered. Who in the world just they put in charge of this train wreck? Release the GEMS. PLS!
Coin arrived in-town yesterday with delivery set for today. Now it's in another state and delivery date is blank. Sigh....
USAF veteran 1984-2005
I happened to read on a coin blog, a quoted email from "Pure" customer service that this particular item, since it is a 'pre-order' item, is treated with a 51 day shipping 'grace period' (in my own words). They nonetheless recommend selling with item in hand due to random cancellations. But I supposed that Pure is free to exercise the written 3 day shipping rule or honor a non-written shipping delay period for a 'pre sale' item.
I’m more so wondering if the buyer would put pressure on Pure to be able to back out since bid is $55 lower. Pure doesn’t have a dog in the fight on the price itself really, I don’t think.
Amazing how each mint produces the same coin with a W on it.
it's 4:22 and th Mint has a waiting room engaged?????
those are the obverse designer's initials. the mm is on the reverse
FYI ; Sorry, no "W" on these as what you think you see is actually the original designer`s initials - AW. (Adolph Weinman)
People reporting and posting screenshots of the mint emailing Day 1 orderers with “unable to fulfill” notices….
Is this item hot again?
Now that's funny.
RC Tv is selling autographed FDOI 70s for over $600 with a small discount if you buy 3 or 5 at a time.
Makes magic Mike look cheap.
1 for $695
3 for $665 each
5 for $659 each
Autographed by Gaudioso