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Sacagawea 2025 Golden Dollar 24K One Half-Ounce Gold Proof Coin
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I see the info on the US mint web site for the upcoming release of this coin. BUT... I'm surprised that the coin will not have markings on it to signify the gold content or fineness. And.... the face value is $1. In other words, looks exactly like a regular Sac dollar, including the diameter.
Could this present a problem in the aftermarket?
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Could present a literally golden opportunity for future coin roll hunters, from the sounds of it…
No. But it will be a nightmare for coin dealers.
Guessing that a huge number will be slabbed right away and the rest kept in original packaging. As for the people who think their circulating Sacs are gold, I don't think this issue will exacerbate that problem, nor would marking it .9999 alleviate it. I am surprised there's no such marking though. They even could have put it on the edge, now that they put the date back where it belongs.
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Oh, it'll exacerbate it. Because now, when they go in the internet, they will find an actual GOLD Sac as a comp.
The one thing I see possibly taking place as a scam.... replace the real gold Sac with the regular issue and use the original Mint packaging. Look out folks.
Shouldn't be a major problem I'd think. The gold one is the only one with the date on the obverse.
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Ah! I had overlooked that!
Every Sac with the eagle reverse has the date on the obverse.
Will there be a 2025-dated non-gold Sac?
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As part of the Native American series that's been running since 2009, yes. They have Sacagawea on the obverse; the date and mint mark are on the edge.
https://www.usmint.gov/native-american-1-coin-2025-rolls-bags-and-boxes-MASTER_NA2025RBB.html
From 2000 through 2008, they had the date and mint mark on the obverse, and the eagle reverse, exactly like the 2025 gold coin.
So, then, there will be no non-gold 2025 Sac with the 2025 date on the obverse. Should prevent confusion, but you've gotta know to look for the 2025 date on the obverse if you examine an allegedly gold Sac in its OGP.
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My mind reader refuses to charge me. . . . . . .
Also, it literally weighs twice as much.
And has a West Point mintmark
Can't wait to hear the horror stories about this one!
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Coming soon.
Whose in for this?
i suggest a pass due to impaired long-term desirability of the not hot design. this is not a age (reworked saint) or a fh gold
i will speculate a 10-20 year period of maintaining a good %age over melt. will people care about it in another 25 years?
From Numismatic News........................
The 2025 Gold Sacagawea Dollar Will Confuse the Public
Gold finally meets the “Golden Dollar”—and the public will be baffled.
Patrick A. Heller
Published Jul 24, 2025 11:02 AM PDT
On July 31, the U.S. Mint will accept orders for the 2025 Half Ounce .9999 pure gold Twenty-Fifth Anniversary Dollar, which commemorates the debut of the Sacagawea “Golden Dollar” in 2000. Mintage is limited to 7,500 coins.
The design will be the same as the obverse and reverse of the 2000-2008 Sacagawea non-gold Golden Dollars, except for the 2025 date and the W mintmark for the coins being struck at the West Point, New York Mint.
Of course, even though they were marketed as “Golden Dollars,” the 2000-2008 Sacagawea Dollars, 2009-date Native American Dollars that still feature Sacagawea on the obverse, the Presidential Dollars that debuted in 2007, and the American Innovation Dollars that debuted in 2018 do not contain one speck of gold. Instead, their metal content is 88-1/2 percent copper, 6 percent zinc, 3-1/2 percent manganese, and 2 percent nickel.
The gold issues will have almost the same diameter as the non-gold Golden Dollars. The difference in color between the gold and the non-gold Golden Dollars will be so minimal that the general public is unlikely to be able to tell the difference.
Most people are aware that the Golden Dollars don’t really have any gold in them. But once the Mint advertises the sale of the 2025 Gold Sacagawea Dollar, which does have gold, I expect there will be significant public confusion. I anticipate a surge of people who will contact collectors and dealers, asking if any of their Golden Dollars from 2000 onward contain gold.
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This is a rare buy for me, I think they’re very cool!
This will be a far bigger problem if the lay media picks up on it and reports it as carelessly as they tend to. That is the reason most people that bang down the B&M shop doors looking for their 2 million dollars for a parking lot wheatie.
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I'm on the fence. I think they look cool. Gold is just so high.
Why not make a tenth ounce gold shield/Lincoln cent to close out a series. And that’s all.
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Dollars and cents in gold. Then quit making both (small dollars and cents)
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I do wish the tail was detailed as in the Cheerios versions. Seemed like it was a perfect opportunity to make that happen.
7488 is loaded as initial inventory. So no bulk buyers in this.
That game didn't work on the Liberty thread, I'm not sure it works here.
Edited to add: although I haven't seen any advanced release for sale
Think this one will be botted on order day at the Mint? I do
Why?
It makes it extra cool. Stop making it a problem it won’t be. No one is going to buy this and spend it.
I think what some folks are concerned about is that non-collectors will be showing up at coin shops or the PCGS boards or wherever with regular production coins and they might expect them to be the golden lottery ticket.
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Exactly. That already happens and there aren't pictures of actual 24k gold versions.
Really should’ve put .9999 gold on it that would’ve made it elite and very cool.
we are going to have trolls over this
Would have made sense to me to do so.
I guess I’m just a biased Sacagawea Dollar collector who thinks these are the coolest thing from the mint in a long time! But yes agreed the lack of gold markings will only increase the already rampant confusion about these. Everyone and their brother (almost quite literally) thinks they have a rare Cheerios or now gold dollar
Right. I was just asking why "Think this one will be botted on order day at the Mint? I do"?
The fact that any one of us loves any individual release does not we think it "will be botted on order day at the Mint." So I was wondering if you knew something I didn't, like the buying clubs soliciting people to buy them, or dealer bids I haven't seen.
Because, if not, no reason to think a gold tribute to a 25 year old coin not too many people cared about 25 years ago is going to be "botted." Even one you happen to think is "the coolest thing from the mint in a long time."
Looks like it might be a better deal than the Superman medal. And lower mintage. Around $530 or so above melt? How many are going to cancel the Superman one and go for this one instead?
Apples and oranges. They are both very expensive.
One much more than the other due to a licensing fee. But one is a "Comic Art Coin" while the other is a tribute to a classic design from the turn of the century. 🤣
They are not interchangeable, and neither is really an investment in gold Gold coins, real classic gold coins, can be bought for melt. Not a mere 30% above it.
Me. I canceled Superman. I'm getting one of these. These are largely unrelated decisions though.
I should add that I have no illusion that this coin will ever have any significant neumismatic premium. I just think it looks cool & I've always enjoyed the story about the original gold ones that went into space.
However, I did buy the Flowing Hair gold on a whim w/similar thinking that I just thought it looked cool, just pulling over on the side of the road when it was released still undecided and pulled the trigger. That turned out a lot better than expected!
Of course, dare I say, the flowing hair design holds a much more dear place in numismatics than the Sac, lol. I also think the execution on that was just exceptional.
It will be interesting to see how this one does in the end.
Reminds me of the guy trying to buy something with a $50 gold coin. The clerk would not accept it.
When my mother passed away I took back the set of golden clad presidential proofs I gave her. My brother said he wanted half of the money I got for selling those “GOLD” coins. LoL
@Bullsitter you beat me to this! I was just happy to see the price without licensing fees.
I was in a shop some time ago and a woman came in with a can of these and asked what they are worth. The shop owner said they have a face value of $1, not sure if she even knew what that meant. After a bit, she ended up selling them for .50 cents a piece. I'm sometimes baffled by the human race.
I did not know US MINT purchases are uninsured & "customer assumes risks"
Yup! Quite a bargain. Only $4,350 per ounce. No additional fees. 🤣
When I bought the FH gold, I picked standard shipping. Never again, it was almost 2 weeks after it shipped to get to me. Next time, I will probably try the next day shipping.
I expect these to sell out fairly fast tomorrow based on the price and the limited number of coins available for a Proof.
Presales on Ebay are closing at $3500 to $3900 for graded 70s.