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1823 Large Cent Restrike: EBay "Denver Coins Co"

gorebelsgorebels Posts: 103 ✭✭✭
edited July 15, 2025 4:48AM in U.S. Coin Forum

I made the mistake of asking the eBay seller a question prior to bidding, already knowing the answer. I wanted this coin to add to my unmolested example but was blocked by the seller. Too bad, my bid was a little over $1000.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,778 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What was the question?

  • gorebelsgorebels Posts: 103 ✭✭✭

    See the second pic above.

  • burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So he didn't like the "tooled" designation and cracked it out- am I missing something?

  • gorebelsgorebels Posts: 103 ✭✭✭

    @burfle23 said:
    So he didn't like the "tooled" designation and cracked it out- am I missing something?

    Apparently. With all the fake stuff coming from China I would have thought the slab added value. In addition, over the decades I’ve seen a few of these coins modified to ‘improve’ the look of the edge so this tooling is almost another variety.

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,718 ✭✭✭✭✭

    His loss, paid over $1100, cracked it out, and sold it for $915, plus eBay fees and shipping…

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  • gorebelsgorebels Posts: 103 ✭✭✭

    Yup, lost near $300.

  • TrickleChargeTrickleCharge Posts: 292 ✭✭✭

    Unless it was a shill bid and didn't actually sell for $915.

  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I actually would have preferred it in the NGC details holder. Many of these have had the edges tooled to compensate for crumbling dies... I accept this as part of the "lore" of the Restrike...

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  • Coins3675Coins3675 Posts: 379 ✭✭✭

    I bet he was upset about his loss.

  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coins3675 said:
    I bet he was upset about his loss.

    I bet they’d be more upset about being exposed here for their tactics!

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,778 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gorebels said:
    See the second pic above.

    That doesn't tell me what the question was... but it's not that important

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,921 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 15, 2025 2:25PM

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @gorebels said:
    See the second pic above.

    That doesn't tell me what the question was... but it's not that important

    In one of the pictures I see this question: “Was this coin recently cracked out of a slab?”

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,778 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @gorebels said:
    See the second pic above.

    That doesn't tell me what the question was... but it's not that important

    In one of the pictures I see this question: “Was this coin recently cracked out of a slab?”

    Ah, yes. I see it now. My mistake.

  • Rc5280Rc5280 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭✭

    ...

  • TrickleChargeTrickleCharge Posts: 292 ✭✭✭
    edited July 15, 2025 2:43PM

    @MFeld said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @gorebels said:
    See the second pic above.

    That doesn't tell me what the question was... but it's not that important

    In one of the pictures I see this question: “Was this coin recently cracked out of a slab?”

    The question could also have been: "Do you know if this coin has been altered in any way?"

    Edit: Ah I see I missed the pic of the question in there.

  • burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 15, 2025 8:04PM

    @gorebels said:

    @burfle23 said:
    So he didn't like the "tooled" designation and cracked it out- am I missing something?

    Apparently. With all the fake stuff coming from China I would have thought the slab added value. In addition, over the decades I’ve seen a few of these coins modified to ‘improve’ the look of the edge so this tooling is almost another variety.

    Apparently, I missed something? I am well aware of the counterfeit environment now and I would guess if the seller is also aware and concerned it is a fake he wouldn't have risked cracking it out.

    Must admit I did "miss" the notion tooling makes it "almost another variety"...

  • Coinslave87Coinslave87 Posts: 208 ✭✭✭

    This seller has been exposed multiple times on Instagram coin community. a lot of the inventory is cracked out coins. Buyer beware. Joke of a seller. Good eye!

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  • erscoloerscolo Posts: 767 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 24, 2025 8:28AM

    Good to know about this seller. The seller shows up in a banner many times on eBay, and I live near metro Denver. Never bought from this seller, the images seem off. I am glad to know my intuition is still working (well at least in this case).

  • coinguy82coinguy82 Posts: 53 ✭✭✭

    Denver Coins up to their old trick I see. Buy details coins , crack em out and add words like 'Pristine" and + + +

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