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1832 Half Cent: Input Requested

AotearoaAotearoa Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭✭✭

For sale locally. No opportunity to see in hand. Thoughts on grade? Cohen number?


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  • AotearoaAotearoa Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a C-3 to me.

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  • jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 1,967 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Always difficult to grade from pics, but I think it would grade an AU58. Just a hint of rub on the reverse leaves keeps it out of the unc. range. Nice clean coin overall and good original chocolate brown color, IMO.

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,656 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like AU55 by wear but check the rims carefully as it may have some rim bumps. I can't tell if the color is original from the photos.

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  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,585 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Tough to fully assess from pics alone, but I’d be questioning the color variation between sides, particularly the reverse. For me it deserves a pass.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,740 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It’s somewhere in the AU range for sharpness. It may have been cleaned. The photo shows no luster. With this level of detail, there should be some if it has been left alone. Photos only show one angle, however. You need to see it in person to know for sure.

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  • The_Dinosaur_ManThe_Dinosaur_Man Posts: 1,081 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The photo looks a bit whiter than what I interpret the coin should appear which may be a result of a lustrous coin shot axially. My super conservative estimate says XF 45.

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,662 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m guessing it looks better in hand, color wise. Not sure I’d gamble though, since you stated you can’t see it in person.
    These middle date half cents are relatively common in AU grades, and can come quite nice.

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  • gorebelsgorebels Posts: 102 ✭✭✭

    Could be recolored. Hard to tell for certain w/o seeing the coin in-hand.

  • Aspie_RoccoAspie_Rocco Posts: 3,565 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gorebels said:
    Could be recolored. Hard to tell for certain w/o seeing the coin in-hand.

    What are indicators that a coin has been re-colored?

  • gorebelsgorebels Posts: 102 ✭✭✭

    It’s the color and uniformity obv/rev. I’ve recolored many problem copper coins and am wondering if that’s one I’ve touched years ago. Still, it may be an attractive coin in-hand. Dunno…

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,740 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Copper coins from this era can be two toned with lighter and darker copper color, but you really need to see it in person to determine that.

    Yes, the made for circulation half cents from the 1830s are often seen in at least EF or better. They did not circulate very well. If you pass on this one, another will be available.

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  • AotearoaAotearoa Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Really good input. Some of the potential concerns mentioned - rims and colour, for instance - are in line with my own. I am an old copper guy but so far that has not not included Half Cents. I'm very tempted to start sliding into that space but I won't start with this particular coin - not without seeing it in hand. Thanks.

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,662 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Aspie_Rocco said:

    @gorebels said:
    Could be recolored. Hard to tell for certain w/o seeing the coin in-hand.

    What are indicators that a coin has been re-colored?

    Here are some examples:

    This one was likely pink after a dipping, then recolored probably with Deller’s Darkener.

    This one just doesn’t look natural but not what was done.

    This one I acquired in an estate 10 years ago, from an old collection, dipped long ago, was slowly retoning but had plenty of unoriginal brick red left. I’ve been toning it in an old paper envelope, and it’s looking more natural.

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  • marmacmarmac Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭

    It is a C-3. Hard to make out what the surfaces look like in hand, but the color looks a little funky to me. That could just be the image. Obverse rim looks to have a few dings, reverse rim looks to have some areas I'd want to look at in hand. Green crud in date, scratch across portrait from Star 3 towards Star 9. I would take a pass on this one. 1832 is not a difficult date to find a nice example of, nor are any of the 3 die marriages for the date.

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