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Is this abrasion or a "woody" effect on this 1924-S Lincoln Wheat Cent?

Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭✭✭

Abrasion or "woody" effect? What say you?

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  • Aspie_RoccoAspie_Rocco Posts: 3,481 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 27, 2025 3:27PM

    I am not an expert but I say yes, it is a wood grain on the reverse.

  • pcgsregistrycollectorpcgsregistrycollector Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭✭

    Most definitely a wood grain.

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  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's a close up......

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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,520 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, gotta love those woodies.
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  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jesbroken said:
    Yes, gotta love those woodies.
    Jim

    Indeed I do - I collect 14-S Lincoln Cents and couldn't pass this one up.

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,624 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The reverse looks like it was partially burnished with something rough.

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  • 2windy2fish2windy2fish Posts: 854 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Woody…it shows on the obverse as well

  • CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,848 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 28, 2025 11:01AM

    Looks more abrasion to me, this is what I would consider the woody effect from my box of randoms


  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So if it may turn out to be an abrasion, shouldn't that be considered damage and then a "Details" coin?

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  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Old_Collector said:
    Definitely woodgrain, which is seen on both sides, look at the obverse from 5 to 9 o'clock. It happens due to an alloy mixing issue so it affects the entire planchet all the way through -- and of course it will be located on same region of the coin if it does not cover the entire coin. So front lower and back upper at 180 degree different angle must be the result.

    Thanks, I really didn't notice the obverse before.

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  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 28, 2025 1:25PM

    Looks like it could be a combination of woodgrain and abrasion to me. Someone might have tried to remove the woodgrain anomaly not knowing what it is and found out it's not removable after doing a scrub job on the piece with an abrasive of some kind.

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  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If it is a woody.... why is the effect not showing inside the letters in ONE?

    ----- kj
  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My first impression was a woodgrain effect... but after the closeup view, I'm thinking abrasion of some sort.

    ----- kj
  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tincup said:
    If it is a woody.... why is the effect not showing inside the letters in ONE?

    Good question! Hope someone can answer that.........

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  • Old_CollectorOld_Collector Posts: 310 ✭✭✭✭

    @tincup said:
    If it is a woody.... why is the effect not showing inside the letters in ONE?

    It does appear show inside the O as much as in any other low points if you see the original picture at higher resolution.

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 29, 2025 3:43PM

    Coin is still for auction but no other bids.........

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  • Old_CollectorOld_Collector Posts: 310 ✭✭✭✭

    @Steven59 said:
    Well - this coin was pulled from the auction - it may very well indeed have been an abrasion and have been mis-labeled/graded. We'll never know now...........

    It also had a minimum bid around twice the value or so. ;)

  • CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,848 ✭✭✭✭✭

    the lines are too orderly (unidirectional), concentrated on high points, corresponding Obv & Rev and consistent IMHO to be considered the woodgrain effect. Note how the sinister wheat stalk high points are bantered but inside in dark brown? In fact I don't see a protected low point that exhibits the effect around the abraded high points

  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Crypto said:
    the lines are too orderly (unidirectional), concentrated on high points, corresponding Obv & Rev and consistent IMHO to be considered the woodgrain effect. Note how the sinister wheat stalk high points are bantered but inside in dark brown? In fact I don't see a protected low point that exhibits the effect around the abraded high points

    I think the woodgrain is plainly evident as seen in the excellent images. The piece has been compromised, however, by one who thought he could improve it by removing the woodgrain, hence the abrasions (scratches). The OP agrees with me.

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  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Really, a nice piece before it got worked on by someone who doesn't know what they are doing. Deserves a details grade, in my opinion.

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  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The cent had an opening bid of $85 on it so needles to say it didn't sell. Wonder if it will be back in another auction?

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  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What I do know about this coin... if I had bought it based on the label, I would have been greatly disappointed when i received it and would be trying to send back.

    ----- kj
  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,678 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It doesn’t look like woodgrain to me. It looks like either die lines or an abrasion.

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  • 4Redisin4Redisin Posts: 589 ✭✭✭

    Very obvious woodgrain coin. Scratches do not come in blob shape as seen on the "O".

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