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  • Clackamas1
    Clackamas1 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    63bn

  • marcmoish
    marcmoish Posts: 6,938 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    idk the varieties,
    64 rb

  • Copperindian
    Copperindian Posts: 3,377 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    All guesses without the variety are incorrect. It’s not an obscure one; in fact, it’s likely known among non IHC collectors.

    “The thrill of the hunt never gets old”

    PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
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    Indy Eagles
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    Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
    Copperindian
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  • jfriedm56
    jfriedm56 Posts: 3,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS64 BN Pick Ax variety

  • Coinbert
    Coinbert Posts: 764 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I do not collect IHC's and do not know anything about a variety for 1870.

  • Clackamas1
    Clackamas1 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    63bn> @Copperindian said:

    All guesses without the variety are incorrect. It’s not an obscure one; in fact, it’s likely known among non IHC collectors.

    They are all obscure.

  • alaura22
    alaura22 Posts: 3,963 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS-64 BN Shallow N FS-901

    Mike
    My Indians
    Dansco Set

  • Copperindian
    Copperindian Posts: 3,377 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    OK. I don’t know anything about some of the coins posted here either, but I’ll still try & make a guess. In some instances I’ve learned something. If I don’t have any idea I’ll pass.
    But in the interest of keeping the thread going & “fun” for all, here’s the coin:

    There were some good guesses. I don’t have a pic, but the rev is actually rotated 170 degrees.

    I’ll post another one:


    I hope this one’s a better fit. But since I’m stubborn, a bit more than a grade guess is required. And I’m not referring to stickers.

    “The thrill of the hunt never gets old”

    PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
    Copperindian
    Copperindian II
    Indy Eagles
    Gold Rush
    Bust Caps

    Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
    Copperindian
    Nickelodeon
    Early Walkers

    Successful transactions: redraider, winesteven, renomedphys, splitaces, oreville, ajaan, Cent1225, onlyroosies, justindan, blitzdude, DesertMoon, johnnyb, Heubschgold, SunshineRareCoins, ParadimeCoins, ndeagles, Southern_Knights, pcgsregistrycollector

  • Coinbert
    Coinbert Posts: 764 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS 66 Large Letters

  • Aspie_Rocco
    Aspie_Rocco Posts: 3,872 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 30, 2025 2:06PM
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    Ms65+ 8/7 weak

    (and the proper rev design with high leaves)

    https://www.autismforums.com/media/albums/acrylic-colors-by-rocco.291/

  • Torey
    Torey Posts: 410 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Wow, 50 pages. Any nitpicks on the rules, or has it gone decently smooth?
    Thanks to all who are participating.

    As for the eagle-
    65 LL

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  • Copperindian
    Copperindian Posts: 3,377 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Torey: thanks for checking in! JMO, other than a little confusion about the 24 hrs, it seems to be going well! Sometimes, members get a little busy and/or forget to answer guesses or post a new coin, but that’s minor stuff. Fun thread!

    “The thrill of the hunt never gets old”

    PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
    Copperindian
    Copperindian II
    Indy Eagles
    Gold Rush
    Bust Caps

    Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
    Copperindian
    Nickelodeon
    Early Walkers

    Successful transactions: redraider, winesteven, renomedphys, splitaces, oreville, ajaan, Cent1225, onlyroosies, justindan, blitzdude, DesertMoon, johnnyb, Heubschgold, SunshineRareCoins, ParadimeCoins, ndeagles, Southern_Knights, pcgsregistrycollector

  • jfriedm56
    jfriedm56 Posts: 3,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS65 Large Letters and High Leaves variety

  • pcgsregistrycollector
    pcgsregistrycollector Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Torey said:
    Wow, 50 pages. Any nitpicks on the rules, or has it gone decently smooth?
    Thanks to all who are participating.

    As for the eagle-
    65 LL

    Love the thread man. Thanks for starting it.

    @Copperindian didn't know what a pick ax variety was until I looked it up. Cool coin!

    For my new guess, I'm going to say 64 LL and HL.

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  • marcmoish
    marcmoish Posts: 6,938 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Matt04 said:

    Guess the grade

    Just check the rules, and you'll see how this thread works.
    You need to be "up" or "your turn" to post.
    Try it, you don't have to do them all, I miss out many.

  • marcmoish
    marcmoish Posts: 6,938 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    64+ LL

  • Aspie_Rocco
    Aspie_Rocco Posts: 3,872 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 30, 2025 2:07PM
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    I changed my designation to weak 8/7 because I think I see the dot over the 8

    • For anyone unfamiliar with the Leaves reference, the large letter comes with high leaves, the variety for this year is a low leaves reverse.

    For small letters they have low leaves, the variety has high leaves. Not a huge price difference for either but it’s a fun cherry pick.

    The leaves in question are below the C and Tof cent (high almost touches letters, low is not close at all. High leaves are a carry over feature from 1856 and 57. *

    https://www.autismforums.com/media/albums/acrylic-colors-by-rocco.291/

  • Copperindian
    Copperindian Posts: 3,377 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    And, we have a “winner”:

    @pcgsregistrycollector: the “winner” is you - the high leaves, while not on the label, is also correct. I no longer own this coin, but always thought it was undergraded.

    “The thrill of the hunt never gets old”

    PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
    Copperindian
    Copperindian II
    Indy Eagles
    Gold Rush
    Bust Caps

    Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
    Copperindian
    Nickelodeon
    Early Walkers

    Successful transactions: redraider, winesteven, renomedphys, splitaces, oreville, ajaan, Cent1225, onlyroosies, justindan, blitzdude, DesertMoon, johnnyb, Heubschgold, SunshineRareCoins, ParadimeCoins, ndeagles, Southern_Knights, pcgsregistrycollector

  • Silverstacker
    Silverstacker Posts: 72 ✭✭✭
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    I say a 63. A nice tone but the lettering on the reverse looks a little weak. As do the front feathers.

    All in all a nice coin tho.

  • pcgsregistrycollector
    pcgsregistrycollector Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Copperindian said:
    And, we have a “winner”:

    @pcgsregistrycollector: the “winner” is you - the high leaves, while not on the label, is also correct. I no longer own this coin, but always thought it was undergraded.

    Woah...I wasn't expecting to get that one right, but thanks! Here's a new coin.

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  • Silverstacker
    Silverstacker Posts: 72 ✭✭✭
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    MS65. A good all around strike, good feathering and hair. A nice cheek. The gunk on the reverse has me a little stumped tho.

  • Coinscratch
    Coinscratch Posts: 11,086 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    AU58+

  • pcgsregistrycollector
    pcgsregistrycollector Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Coinscratch said:
    AU58+

    You got it. My favorite grade of all time.

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  • Coinscratch
    Coinscratch Posts: 11,086 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @pcgsregistrycollector said:

    @Coinscratch said:
    AU58+

    You got it. My favorite grade of all time.

    That is a really cool grade!


  • jfriedm56
    jfriedm56 Posts: 3,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    how about MS67+

  • pcgsregistrycollector
    pcgsregistrycollector Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    How bout MS-68?

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  • Clackamas1
    Clackamas1 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 30, 2025 3:41PM
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    67 Beautiful half in a tough year. I love how those mint marks are smashed into the dies.

  • Coinscratch
    Coinscratch Posts: 11,086 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @pcgsregistrycollector said:
    How bout MS-68?

    You got it!

  • pcgsregistrycollector
    pcgsregistrycollector Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Coinscratch said:

    @pcgsregistrycollector said:
    How bout MS-68?

    You got it!

    Ooh sweet. I was going to say 69, but than I remembered there were no business strike Kennedy's in 69. Very nice coin. Did you find this mint set hunting?

    New coin:

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  • Coinscratch
    Coinscratch Posts: 11,086 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @pcgsregistrycollector Amen!
    Thank you yes I did and the new owner might be working on the upgrade, lol.

    MS63

  • Silverstacker
    Silverstacker Posts: 72 ✭✭✭
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    $3,312.13

  • pcgsregistrycollector
    pcgsregistrycollector Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 30, 2025 4:23PM
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    @Coinscratch said:
    @pcgsregistrycollector Amen!
    Thank you yes I did and the new owner might be working on the upgrade, lol.

    MS63

    3.3 k is not shabby by any means from mint set hunting. Great work!
    The grade is not correct though.

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  • Coinscratch
    Coinscratch Posts: 11,086 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Price guide 4500 realized Price 3800 so yeah not too shabby.

  • Clackamas1
    Clackamas1 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    62

  • pcgsregistrycollector
    pcgsregistrycollector Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    nope

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  • jfriedm56
    jfriedm56 Posts: 3,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS64

  • pcgsregistrycollector
    pcgsregistrycollector Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    nope

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  • marcmoish
    marcmoish Posts: 6,938 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    65

  • pcgsregistrycollector
    pcgsregistrycollector Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    nope

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  • Rc5280
    Rc5280 Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS61

  • pcgsregistrycollector
    pcgsregistrycollector Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    nope

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  • Coinbert
    Coinbert Posts: 764 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS 60

  • jfriedm56
    jfriedm56 Posts: 3,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS65+

  • marcmoish
    marcmoish Posts: 6,938 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    fwiw, my real guess was 62+ but I really wanted to get my very own "nope" , and that was accomplished.

  • Aspie_Rocco
    Aspie_Rocco Posts: 3,872 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    58

    https://www.autismforums.com/media/albums/acrylic-colors-by-rocco.291/

  • JeffersonFrog
    JeffersonFrog Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    64+

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    Tommy

  • pcgsregistrycollector
    pcgsregistrycollector Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    None of you guys got it right. The correct grade was MS-63+.

    Anyways, since its been 24 hours, heres a new coin. I would like a sticker/variety combo.

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  • Coinscratch
    Coinscratch Posts: 11,086 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS63 BN Eagle Eye No mint mark?

  • pcgsregistrycollector
    pcgsregistrycollector Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nope LOL. Never heard of the no mintmark variety. :D

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  • marcmoish
    marcmoish Posts: 6,938 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 1, 2025 3:21PM
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    62RB
    I doubt it's beaned, and EE no clue (not relevant to me either)

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