Opinions please on reverse lines of ms64 bison nickel

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Buzzsaw
Buzzsaw Posts: 12 ✭✭
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Pcgs says its a bison nothing burger
https://www.pcgs.com/cert/59834364

Thanks

kh

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  • braddick
    braddick Posts: 25,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    And. . . PCGS is correct.
    If it is your coin and you are so inclined I'd give it the nickname, "NothingBisonBurger"

  • pcgsregistrycollector
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    @braddick said:
    And. . . PCGS is correct.
    If it is your coin and you are so inclined I'd give it the nickname, "NothingBisonBurger"

    How the hell is that valued at $8?

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  • jmlanzaf
    jmlanzaf Posts: 43,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @pcgsregistrycollector said:

    @braddick said:
    And. . . PCGS is correct.
    If it is your coin and you are so inclined I'd give it the nickname, "NothingBisonBurger"

    How the hell is that valued at $8?

    PCGS price guide. It's more like a $2 coin

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  • jmlanzaf
    jmlanzaf Posts: 43,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Buzzsaw said:
    Pcgs says its a bison nothing burger
    https://www.pcgs.com/cert/59834364

    Thanks

    What do you think it is?

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  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Welcome to the forum. What do you see that you think is different than a normal nickel? I see the reverse streaks of toning but that is "a nothing burger" to the collector.
    Do you see something different?

    bob :)

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  • Buzzsaw
    Buzzsaw Posts: 12 ✭✭
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    I have never seen streaks of toning like that on any coin.
    This from a mint sewn bag of 1000 and other 999 were not streaked at all.

    kh
  • jmlanzaf
    jmlanzaf Posts: 43,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 27, 2025 6:15PM
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    @Buzzsaw said:
    I have never seen streaks of toning like that on any coin.
    This from a mint sewn bag of 1000 and other 999 were not streaked at all.

    I've seen thousands. It's usually due to a foreign substance on the coin. It's not related to the striking of the coin.

    As "tuition" goes, that was pretty cheap. In the future, maybe ask before you send it in.

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  • Buzzsaw
    Buzzsaw Posts: 12 ✭✭
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    A foreign substance post strike but pre bag?

    kh
  • Aspie_Rocco
    Aspie_Rocco Posts: 3,872 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 27, 2025 7:50PM
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    @Buzzsaw said:
    Pcgs says its a bison nothing burger

    https://www.autismforums.com/media/albums/acrylic-colors-by-rocco.291/

  • World67
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  • Buzzsaw
    Buzzsaw Posts: 12 ✭✭
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    If you cant swallow my Butchered Bison, your not ready to digest my...
    BISON booger (cud)
    BISON Snort (sand blasted A)
    Skewered BISON (same position as spear)
    Hobbled Bison (hoof spikes)
    Gored C
    :)

    kh
  • Buzzsaw
    Buzzsaw Posts: 12 ✭✭
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    If you cant swallow my Butchered Bison, your not ready to digest my...
    BISON booger (cud)
    BISON Snort (sand blasted A)
    Skewered BISON (same position as spear)
    Hobbled Bison (hoof spikes)
    Gored C

    kh
  • Buzzsaw
    Buzzsaw Posts: 12 ✭✭
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    Thanks for welcome but on board since at least 08.
    Shadow banned by password issues

    kh
  • pcgsregistrycollector
    pcgsregistrycollector Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Buzzsaw said:
    If you cant swallow my Butchered Bison, your not ready to digest my...
    BISON booger (cud)
    BISON Snort (sand blasted A)
    Skewered BISON (same position as spear)
    Hobbled Bison (hoof spikes)

    Lil bro spazzin out fr

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  • Buzzsaw
    Buzzsaw Posts: 12 ✭✭
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    Ya i will be sure to ask jmlanzaf b4 pcgs next time.

    kh
  • Buzzsaw
    Buzzsaw Posts: 12 ✭✭
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    While on this westward journey, any thoughts on PL designation of peace/handshake nickel? Low pop.

    kh
  • World67
    World67 Posts: 13,098 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Buzzsaw said:
    Thanks for welcome but on board since at least 08.
    Shadow banned by password issues

  • Buzzsaw
    Buzzsaw Posts: 12 ✭✭
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    Jmlanzaf has seen thousands of streaked coins from the mint. Thousands.
    Ok

    kh
  • World67
    World67 Posts: 13,098 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Buzzsaw said:
    Jmlanzaf has seen thousands of streaked coins from the mint. Thousands.
    Ok

  • pcgsregistrycollector
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  • Clackamas1
    Clackamas1 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Buzzsaw said:
    I have never seen streaks of toning like that on any coin.
    This from a mint sewn bag of 1000 and other 999 were not streaked at all.

    It is not uncommon. I have seen it from mint rolls and bags. It is the wash not being removed.

  • Buzzsaw
    Buzzsaw Posts: 12 ✭✭
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    thanks for explaining how this happens at the mint.
    I never would have believed it would grade had it not come from a mint bag.
    I wonder if a more precise term for this toning is variegated?
    variegated amber patination
    source: WoodenJefferson

    the bison buffs are going to stampede off a cliff for this bisected bison!
    I will list it as NOT speared to catch the eyes of bovines looking for the $300 speared bison variety

    interesting comment from PCGS:JH in price guide:
    The coins poor condition can be blamed mainly on the coin planchets in which they were struck, since the planchets usually contained large die gouges, nicks and scratches. Other times the coins display an uneven color and luster, which were probably caused by incorrectly mixing the different metal alloys used to produce the planchets.

    kh
  • jmlanzaf
    jmlanzaf Posts: 43,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 30, 2025 1:53PM
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    @Buzzsaw said:
    Jmlanzaf has seen thousands of streaked coins from the mint. Thousands.
    Ok

    It is very common on coins in circulation and not uncommon on coins from the Mint. There are numerous chemicals used in the minting process. If any of them survive the wash, you can get toning streaks.

    I see more tuition in your future if that is the way you respond to getting three correct answer to a question you asked.

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  • MsMorrisine
    MsMorrisine Posts: 40,046 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Buzzsaw said:
    ... since the planchets usually contained large die gouges...

    give me the url to where JH wrote this

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  • Relaxn
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    @MsMorrisine said:

    @Buzzsaw said:
    ... since the planchets usually contained large die gouges...

    give me the url to where JH wrote this

    Yes JH references poorly struck.coins but never seen him reference large die gouges...

    Seems to be a stretch

  • jmlanzaf
    jmlanzaf Posts: 43,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Relaxn said:

    @MsMorrisine said:

    @Buzzsaw said:
    ... since the planchets usually contained large die gouges...

    give me the url to where JH wrote this

    Yes JH references poorly struck.coins but never seen him reference large die gouges...

    Seems to be a stretch

    Especially if the die gorges are on the planchets... shouldn't they be either on the struck coins or on the dies?

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  • pcgsregistrycollector
    pcgsregistrycollector Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Buzzsaw said:
    thanks for explaining how this happens at the mint.
    I never would have believed it would grade had it not come from a mint bag.
    I wonder if a more precise term for this toning is variegated?
    variegated amber patination
    source: WoodenJefferson

    the bison buffs are going to stampede off a cliff for this bisected bison!
    I will list it as NOT speared to catch the eyes of bovines looking for the $300 speared bison variety

    interesting comment from PCGS:JH in price guide:
    The coins poor condition can be blamed mainly on the coin planchets in which they were struck, since the planchets usually contained large die gouges, nicks and scratches. Other times the coins display an uneven color and luster, which were probably caused by incorrectly mixing the different metal alloys used to produce the planchets.

    You should become a poet dude.

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  • Buzzsaw
    Buzzsaw Posts: 12 ✭✭
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    In my hunt for the Great Speared Tatanka, I also found 2 bisons with "uneven luster" on obverse
    as foretold by the Venerable One- PCGS:jh above.
    I must have missed the keelboat because I have not seen this "uneven luster" before either.
    I didnt find them as interesting as the Toned Tatanka but then he whispered "uneven luster" was
    "probably caused by incorrectly mixing the different metal alloys used to produce the planchets"

    I would have guessed The Mint had perfected the mixing of Nickel alloys for mass produced coins by 2005.

    kh
  • Creg
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    edited July 1, 2025 2:22PM
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