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Mintage Limits for Comic Book Superman coins are up
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Comic Art 24-Karat Gold Proof Coin – Superman™
Mintage Limit: 10,000
Product Limit: None
Household Order Limit: 1
Comic Art One Ounce Silver Medal – Superman™
Mintage Limit: None
Product Limit: None
Household Order Limit: None
Comic Art 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal – Superman™
Mintage Limit: 25,000
Product Limit: None
Household Order Limit: None
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Two of the three products are medals, and those seem to have high numbers relative to medal demand (one is unlimited?). The gold coin will not sell out is my guess on the first day.
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An interesting release overall. The decision to produce two of the three items as medals—one with no mintage limit and the other with a relatively high cap of 25,000—suggests this is aimed more at broad appeal than scarcity.
The 24-karat gold coin, while the only actual coin in the set, has a mintage limit of 10,000, which may be on the higher side given the current market. It seems unlikely to sell out on the first day, especially considering the premium.
From a collector’s standpoint, the designs are appealing, but the production numbers may limit long-term desirability.
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Also of note about the Gold Proof, it's a 1/2oz 24kt coin with a $50 denomination. It will be more affordable for some, if they can get past the high premium once it is published.
Pass, pass and pass.
Did you know I was the body model for this coin ?
This too shall pass. I the mean time, I pass and avoid the stain.
I thought is was strange that they have a belly button on this design, and looked up to see if it has it anywhere in the comics.
"Superman’s costume traditionally covers his torso, so the belly button is not typically visible. However, in rare instances where his costume is damaged or he is depicted shirtless, artists have drawn him with a visible navel, consistent with his human-like appearance."
Looks good to me!
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Silver version prices are now listed. $275/$135. That's outrageous imho!!!!
There seemed to be an assumption that the medals would be proof. They are matte.
The silver versions are medals because they have no Congressional authorization to mint silver coins. No such restriction exists with gold.
Don't look for a reason beyond that, because there isn't one. They would happily give all silver issues a denomination if they could, because it would only increase demand. The only mystery is why Congress does not allow them to do so.
And, with all due respect, I think the gold coin will be a fast sell out. There is a lot of demand for items like this, although maybe not on this board.
That said, if people here sniff a flip, they'll be all over this. And I think there WILL indeed be a flip here. It is tailor made for TV, hyper low mintage, and relatively accessible, with 1/2 ounce of gold. It will be priced under $2500, and there will be a frenzy. How long did it take to sell 10K FH gold coins?
The mint must be paying about a $30 licensing fee per coin or medal to get to those prices.
I would think hardcore Superman comic collectors would seriously consider this piece.
Current mint collector gold sales are almost all under 5k right now, that includes proof buffalo, and eagle, with commemorative proofs. The FH gold coin was an anomaly since it represented the first us mint dollar coin.
Good luck to flippers here for the gold at 10k mintage. Of coarse they could short strike the coin like with others. It's a roll of the dice.
I hope they don’t make a Curly.
[Raises hand] Price is key and I'll be watching this one closely. That said [looks to the left] I'm all but certain to get one particular piece among next year's offerings.
No. This is going to be an "anomaly" because it's going to represent the first US superhero coin.
Popular superhero. Attractive design. Relatively low mintage. A little more than half the price of the FH gold coin.
As I said above, tailor made for the telemarketers. It's going to be an instant sell out, short mintage or not. And notwithstanding the fact that traditionalists here would have no interest, but for the fact that it's going to sell out in minutes, and then command a significant premium in the secondary market.
So, like everyone here who pooped all over the "230" privy when it first appeared on the Mint website in an illustration of the FH silver medal (ugly, distracting from the original, etc.), and then chased it when it turned out to be a tiny subset of the total mintage, people will poop all over this and then chase it when it becomes apparent that it's going to be a winner (i.e., when presale offers from the Big Boys start appearing in people's in-boxes).
Since the Mint is jumping down the rabbit hole of following foreign mints in producing items like this in the first place, I wish they'd go all the way and offer preferential access to retail customers based on their level of past purchases. That would totally knock out the buyer's clubs, and reward actual collectors, who could then either keep the coins or profit from the flip.
As it stands, many of those who want this will be shut out by flippers who only buy winners, or don't even buy at all, but are recruited by flippers, as this goes unavailable in a few minutes. And we'll be lucky if even 8K of the announced 10K make it to the website, as the Mint once again directs over allocations to preferred customers.
"The U.S. Mint's Comic Art Coin and Medal Program will feature a total of nine different designs, each representing a DC Comics superhero, released over a three-year span from 2025 to 2027. Each year, three superheroes will be featured, starting with Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman in 2025, followed by six additional characters in subsequent years."
Nine coins times $2200 is $19,800 for the gold set. Flip these if you can, but don't hold. Sales will drop off just like for the 1/2 spouse gold coin series. They have the most popular comic characters out first, then secondary ones. There is not enough popular dc characters to keep sales up at those prices.
If future prices follow normal demand patterns, the lowest mintage will be the ones to hold value over melt (like the spouse gold), and that will be in year 3, probably at mintages of 2500 (or even less).
Let the speculation and hype begin, and guilty as charged with my speculation.
Superhero Comic Coins -- First Spouse Gold 2.0. Hot at first, then waning interest w/high spot & premiums to kill it. Then long term winners? I know apples & oranges somewhat, but...
It may fly, flip-wise if they cap them and surprise @NJCoin at 5k pcs? No instant sellout. We'll see.
Not a great design overall, my opinion. When the Medallic Artists initials are twice as large as the MM, it's a bad look & vibe. Same with the 'S' logo on the chest - velcro? (I know, it's a coin, not a Halloween costume, there are design limitations).
When a modern Jetliner is flying above a scene that is supposed to be set in the late 30's - 40's(look at the truck), it's a bad look, vibe, and wholly inaccurate, Just me.
I'm leaving my initial observations and opinions open for adjustments, so there's that...
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That would be awesome! Curly, Larry and Moe gold coins from the Mint! You never know. Anything is possible these days from the Mint! I’d buy them!
I don't think mintage limits are even in play here.
no hhl on 2.5 silver? omg no
Plenty of time for that to change if they get feedback via advance interest from the Big Boys that the public is likely to be shut out. The initial determination is reasonable, based on $275 for 2.5 ounces of silver.
But they have revised HHLs down many times in the past, and are likely to do so here, based on the mintage limit. People can always pick up unlimited quantities the day after release if overwhelming demand does not materialize. I honestly think we are going to see a HHL of 1 before they actually go on sale.
The Superman 1 ounce silver medal is listed at $135, and the 2.5 ounce silver medal is listed at $275. The 2.5 ounce has a HHL of only 1.
This must mean they plan for well more than 25,000 1 ounce medals. It has unlimited ordering.
medals have no date. they can strike more 5 years from now
The 2.5 ounce medal has a mintage limit of 25,000.
ok
then they plan to strike more 1 ounce?
Sointenly !!!
Plus the 2.5 ounce medal, I believe has now been set at 1 PHH
I'd almost like to see how that would be marketed?
Are these going to be privymarked too? Just like everything else the mint makes.
If you consider Mint marks to be a form of privy mark, the coins will be.
Well, yes. Of course! They are making limited mintage items for collectors interested in limited mintage items.
They are the more expensive ones. Not an accident.
But then, the most accessible, most affordable ones, will be made in whatever quantity they can sell. That's how DC gets paid. Not by making everything in limited quantities so as to suppress the licensing fees DC can collect.
Something for everyone. A gold coin at such an outrageous premium to metal content that it's hard for me to see them actually selling 10K of them.
A more accessible silver medal for those who like the design and the subject, and who think a mintage of 25K could be a winner, even at $110 per ounce of silver. And then an unlimited edition for those who want something, can't afford more, and don't care about future value.
Maybe all the experts here, @jmlanzaf et al., can explain to me what it means to have no product limit but a mintage limit. I know exactly what it means when it works the other way around, but the product cannot exceed the mintage, so why do the Superman items with mintage limits have no product limits, while the Army privy coin has a 100K limit for both?
The 2½oz medal has the year; the 1oz medal does not.
thus, they will not strike more in the future, thus the maximum is removed on the one ounce and limited on the 2.5, thus i knew everything!
i didn't know that and i was thinking of mint medals. of course olympic medals will have a date and these will have a date. so my sweeping statement is wrong and i was wrong about being right and so forth
No. Medals can always be struck, regardless of whether or not they have a year on them. Expect the 1 ounce Supermans to be struck to demand as long as they keep them on sale. Which will be at least the 3 years they announced so far.
They would be able to mint the 2025 2.5 oz. in future years if they didn't make them all this year. Which they will, because those are going to be the ones that actually sell out. Not so sure about 10K gold coins at $5400/oz gold.
true
but they won't date a medal and strike more with a 26 on them, of course, don't give them any ideas
Yup. They are just going to keep making and selling them, with no date, as long as they can. If anything is going to be a winner, it will be the 2.5 ouncers, with the limited mintage, that isn't selling for $2,000 per ounce above its intrinsic value.
I really don't care for colorful and gimmicky coins, medals or whatever you want to call them. But the French mint also has gone big time in to these types of items, so I guess it's a trend. And if they bring a younger audience in to the coin hobby, maybe it's a good thing.
I cautiously agree. I think it's fine for the mint to make Comic book coins especially if it brings younger people into coin collecting. I just don't want this types of releases to end up being half the catalog like they are at many mints. A comic book character on a series of coins, then Harry Potter, then Jaws, then Scooby Do. . .
Why in the world is the price of 1oz silver superman medals going at 135.00 per item .???????
Ken.
Superman is my favorite action hero, but I can’t see how this is appropriate for a commemorative U.S. coin. The gold piece is very attractive, but, given the price of bullion, the issue price is prohibitively high. For those reasons, I passed.
licensing fees
Plus mint prices are very high. Why is the mint charging $61 for a clad, base metal Marine Corps commemorative half dollar?
License fee to DC, on top of the Mint's usual obnoxiously high markup. If you're choking on that, just wait until you see what they ask for the 0.5 ounce gold coin.