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Newp - Mexico 1810 8 Reales HJ/TH overassayer

TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,969 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited June 21, 2025 7:30PM in World & Ancient Coins Forum

Picked-up tonight on eBay this nice 1810 over-assayer in an older NGC holder. While I already have an example of this variety in AU53, it's a different die pair and the over-assayer is not as prominent as today's example. HJ/TH over-assayers are observed with the Armored Bust series of Ferdinand VII with 1809, 1810, and 1811 dates. Personally, i really like seeing all 3 elements of the variety - T underneath the H, repositioned dot between assayer initials, and H under the J. This new coin shows 2 out of the 3 markers pretty clearly. I'll update the post with better images once i have it in-hand.


Yonaka calls this variety an R2 with four die pairs and five examples observed.

Both NGC and PCGS recognize this variety. However there's a reverse die that appears to be an HJ with a repositioned J that often gets called an HJ/TH. I've looked at a dozen or so examples of this reverse die and it appears a number of letters were repunched slightly to the right, including the 8 and R in the denomination.

Rutherford had an example of this reverse die that shows the repositioning pretty well:


Here are some other examples of this variety. Can you spot the different reverse dies?










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    AbueloAbuelo Posts: 2,067 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting @TwoKopeiki
    I am looking and looking my 8R for 1810 and I think is not over assayer.


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    TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,969 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Abuelo said:
    Interesting @TwoKopeiki
    I am looking and looking my 8R for 1810 and I think is not over assayer.

    Not an overdate or over-assayer, but a very appealing example.

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    threefiftythreefifty Posts: 200 ✭✭✭

    Great and very helpful post TwoKopeiki! had added the coin to my watch list as it was a nice example, but I totally missed the overassayer. Glad you picked it up!

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    TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,969 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @threefifty said:
    Great and very helpful post TwoKopeiki! had added the coin to my watch list as it was a nice example, but I totally missed the overassayer. Glad you picked it up!

    Thanks! The coin having a nice appeal definitely played into my decision to add another example of this variety to the collection :)

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