The 1904 $20 MS-63 with gold CAC sticker Liberty in PCGS white label rattler sold for what?????

@Sunshine Rare Coins said:

@Ebeneezer said:
And there's nearly 5000 in a higher grade at PCGS. Wow some people are just foolish. That money would definitely buy one of them.

You should see his rare date $20's.....

And his common dates, too, for thet matter.

I only have two rattlers and I paid a HUGE premium for both and BOTH are green CAC stickered. I must confess that I bought them more for their technical attributes but I KNOW that the holder and the bean are what really fueled the price. This was 10+ years ago, so I'd be more than 'OK' if I sold them, today.

@logger7 said:
Is this the same or a later generation?

That’s a later one, I look at the fives, the shape of the fives give it away.

@Ebeneezer I always get a chuckle out of it when other coin collectors make fun of slab collectors. They are so obtuse they don't understand that they collect shiny, metal disks that the average public (people like my wife) thinks is crazy when they find out how much we spent on a "penny ". Collect what you like and enjoy the hobby. Don't try to belittle people just because it's not your bag.

@EliteCollection said:
I got myself another Gen 1.0 white rattler. Don't hate me but I paid a lot more than what the coin is worth.

No need to buy these over priced slabs. Please go collect pennies
(No offense to my penny collector friends)

@EliteCollection said:
I got myself another Gen 1.0 white rattler. Don't hate me but I paid a lot more than what the coin is worth.

and i love the white coin!

Not a hater and I do understand the allure of collectible plastic, I mean anything is collectible. The coins we buy are just rare commodities whose only true value is the value we place on them. Even gold itself is a speculation. But to be absolutely frank I find rattler holders annoying, and won’t go out of my way to buy them.

Reason 1: they don’t fit well into standard PCGS boxes.
Reason 2: sending one in for regrade feels like some kinda dumbass move
Reason 3: Dealers charge more for ‘em
Reason 4: CAC seems to be more lenient on OGH’s and rattlers
Reason 5: Rotated coins. Lots of rotated coins.

That said I own a couple, but I sure as heck didn’t pay extra for what’s in ‘em.

@VanHalen said:

@GoldFinger1969 said:

@PerryHall said:
PCGS Coin Facts estimates there are 5,500 1904 G$20's in MS65 or higher.

By PCGS only ?

No. 5,500 is the estimated number of pieces surviving in MS65/better.

While that is their listed estimate, they have already graded over 7,000 1904 $20 in 65 and better at PCGS alone.

https://pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1904-20/9045

@renomedphys said:
Not a hater and I do understand the allure of collectible plastic, I mean anything is collectible. The coins we buy are just rare commodities whose only true value is the value we place on them. Even gold itself is a speculation. But to be absolutely frank I find rattler holders annoying, and won’t go out of my way to buy them.

Reason 1: they don’t fit well into standard PCGS boxes.
Reason 2: sending one in for regrade feels like some kinda dumbass move

If someone sends one of these rare holder coins to cac in "crossover" shouldn't they just refuse to crack the coin out? Like the tree man who refuses to take down a perfectly healthy oak, sugar maple, etc. that poses no threat to anyone and is a huge asset to the property?

If it were me, I'd tell the submitter there is far more value in the old holder than he can imagine.

I estimate that the GC sticker is covering about $2000 worth of plastic.

Ok, so it is a common date MS64. I think I paid about $500 for essentially the same quality in an MS63 1904 Double Eagle graded by NGC. At least I see no discernible difference.

@oreville said:
I bought $10,000 of NVDA stock for my daughter in 2005. Now worth $1.4 million. She still wants me to pay for my grandson’s nursery school because she does not want to sell any of HER NVDA stock.

Depending on when in 2005 you bought it, it should be with somewhere between $5M and $9M today.

The hardest (but not necessarily prudent) thing was not selling it all those years!

What does better over the next ten years? NVDA or a white label rattler? Serious question.

But agree a white label rattler isn’t about the financial return. It’s just awesome.