Anyone see this new Bonkers 'Ike Dollar on Feeder Finger' auction at Great Collections??

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  • alefzero
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    Very interesting piece and, thankfully, not in my wheelhouse. I have spent enough elsewhere.

  • messydesk
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    Cool piece, and it doesn't seem to be a shenanigans error like the S-mint proofs of the era.

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  • counterbrockage
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    LOVE this coin. Maybe the most dramatic Ike error of all time, or, if not speaking in wild superlatives as I sometimes tend to do: easily in my top five ever seen Ike errors. So cool. What a beast.

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  • Steven59
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    Great looking error!

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  • johnny9434
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    Cool, one oddity like that is cool now and then 🙂

  • safari_dude
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    Now that would be a wonderful error to have! Someone is going to go home happy!

  • furywiz
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    While no doubt a true mint produced coin that exited the mint in this condition compared to PMD, is the common consensus that this was a purposely done employee made error that made its way out?

  • Typekat
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    “A workshop for their own gain” is the historical term for such Mint employee shenanigans

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  • lsica
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    Howthe.....nevermind...

    Philately will get you nowhere....
  • BillJones
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    @messydesk said:
    Cool piece, and it doesn't seem to be a shenanigans error like the S-mint proofs of the era.

    Maybe not, how did it get out of the mint? It sure didn’t make it through the.coin counter when they were bagging it up.

    I find errors like this interesting, but not $10,000 + interesting.

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  • Vorpaledged
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    @BillJones said:

    @messydesk said:
    Cool piece, and it doesn't seem to be a shenanigans error like the S-mint proofs of the era.

    Maybe not, how did it get out of the mint? It sure didn’t make it through the.coin counter when they were bagging it up.

    I find errors like this interesting, but not $10,000 + interesting.

    I find them interesting as well! I enjoy the subset "Intentionally Created Errors"! Especially ones that are extraordinary with phenomenal eye appeal! Some people get a Torch mob brewing when this subject surfaces but...people are entitled to their opinions, for me, unless there is actual proof i'm ok with it. The coins are available, I enjoy owning, buying, trading them. I see claims of "a mint employee did this or that"...do you know they did this? is there any proof of who or when?? I think a focus on how the pieces get out of the Mint is an ongoing mystery. I remember Fred discussing the Forklifts and how they used the oil pans to smuggle out a variety of Proof errors. Maybe large, inconceivable errors where made back in the 60s/70s by normal traditional ways but were snuck out as such and weren't meant to make a few bucks but as personal trophy/souvenirs. Does that mean they were actually man-made? Maybe/maybe not, all speculation. The QC back then wasn't as advanced as it is now. They most likely didn't have the precautionary measures to prevent errors from escaping like current technology. I mean aren't All mint errors not supposed to leave the mint?

  • Byers
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    @Vorpaledged said:

    @BillJones said:

    @messydesk said:
    Cool piece, and it doesn't seem to be a shenanigans error like the S-mint proofs of the era.

    Maybe not, how did it get out of the mint? It sure didn’t make it through the.coin counter when they were bagging it up.

    I find errors like this interesting, but not $10,000 + interesting.

    I find them interesting as well! I enjoy the subset "Intentionally Created Errors"! Especially ones that are extraordinary with phenomenal eye appeal! Some people get a Torch mob brewing when this subject surfaces but...people are entitled to their opinions, for me, unless there is actual proof i'm ok with it. The coins are available, I enjoy owning, buying, trading them. I see claims of "a mint employee did this or that"...do you know they did this? is there any proof of who or when?? I think a focus on how the pieces get out of the Mint is an ongoing mystery. I remember Fred discussing the Forklifts and how they used the oil pans to smuggle out a variety of Proof errors. Maybe large, inconceivable errors where made back in the 60s/70s by normal traditional ways but were snuck out as such and weren't meant to make a few bucks but as personal trophy/souvenirs. Does that mean they were actually man-made? Maybe/maybe not, all speculation. The QC back then wasn't as advanced as it is now. They most likely didn't have the precautionary measures to prevent errors from escaping like current technology. I mean aren't All mint errors not supposed to leave the mint?

    https://minterrornews.com/features-4-1-25-proof-error-coins-that-escaped-the-mint.html

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  • Byers
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    This Ike Dollar Feeder Finger is extremely dramatic and definitely ranks high on the list.

    The highest price realized for an Eisenhower Dollar mint error in public auction was the Heritage sale of my Ike Dollar clover at $105k.

    In my opinion this Ike Dollar Feeder Finger is unique and should bring a very strong price!

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  • pcgsregistrycollector
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    @Byers said:
    This issue of Mint Error News Magazine also features other rare, dramatic and expensive Ike Dollar major mint errors:







    These can't be unintentional mistakes.

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  • Byers
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    @pcgsregistrycollector said:

    @Byers said:
    This issue of Mint Error News Magazine also features other rare, dramatic and expensive Ike Dollar major mint errors:







    These can't be unintentional mistakes.

    Correct. They are intentional.

    If you missed the link above in a previous post about how proof and mint state intentional errors got out, here is a screenshot of PART of the article and the link: The full article has images and links.

    https://minterrornews.com/features-4-1-25-proof-error-coins-that-escaped-the-mint.html

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  • Allentram
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    Hi, could someone educate me on the exact function of the feeder finger during the minting/striking process? Can't seem to wrap my head around it. Thanks.

  • counterbrockage
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    @Allentram said:
    Hi, could someone educate me on the exact function of the feeder finger during the minting/striking process? Can't seem to wrap my head around it. Thanks.

    Hi Allen. Thanks for asking. Think of a feeder finger as a "planchet pusher thing" that pushes planchets into position so that they can be struck between the dies. It feeds those planchets by guiding them into place with "fingers" or prongs that guide the planchet into place (or HOPEFULLY NOT because we like errors!) and then the coin is struck. After each strike, the feeder fingers guide another planchet into place and the process continues.

    As is true with anything mechanical, mistakes happen, and things wear out. With feeder fingers, they sometimes aren't able due to mechanical failure to clear away from the dies and are accidentally struck themselves.

    In the case of this Ike dollar, it was struck while resting on a faulty feeder finger and the two bonded together from the dies now striking two things rather than just one Ike planchet. The dies are set to a specific tolerance, and to have a double thickness set of things in between them caused this beautiful catastrophe of an error.

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  • Byers
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    @Allentram said:
    Hi, could someone educate me on the exact function of the feeder finger during the minting/striking process? Can't seem to wrap my head around it. Thanks.

    Here are 2 pages from the article on feeder fingers in this issue:


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  • Byers
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    Here is a full feederfinger certified by NGC:

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  • Allentram
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    @counterbrockage @Byers Thanks for the information!

  • Kliao
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    Wow that is wickedly cool! Wonder how much more it'll go.

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  • Steven59
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    Will this thread still be active in 44 days to know the final price? :)

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  • Byers
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    @Allentram said:
    Hi, could someone educate me on the exact function of the feeder finger during the minting/striking process? Can't seem to wrap my head around it. Thanks.

    Mint Error News has published several articles on feeder fingers on U.S. coins and on world coins.

    Additionally, several articles on Dan Carr’s Moonlight Mint and his discovery of some feeder fingers.

    https://mikebyers.com/us-25c-feeder-finger-denver-mint.html

    This image from one of the articles illustrates the feeder fingers, and is courtesy of Moonlight Mint.

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  • Vorpaledged
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    Those Ike errors...particularly the 1978 Ike Over-Struck on a 1978 S Proof Clad Ike, Struck on a SF Assay and Struck Twice with 1972 Cent dies are Amazing!!

  • goodmoney4badmoney
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    I’ve always liked feeder finger errors. You have the knowledge it’s struck on a piece of the coin press itself, which is pretty cool IMO.

  • Walkerfan
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    Very unusual piece but just not my style or taste. Will be interesting to see what it hammers for though.

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  • Byers
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    @Vorpaledged said:
    Those Ike errors...particularly the 1978 Ike Over-Struck on a 1978 S Proof Clad Ike, Struck on a SF Assay and Struck Twice with 1972 Cent dies are Amazing!!

    Thanks, Vorpaledged!

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  • Byers
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    Current bid is $26k. 8 days to go.

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  • Mr Lindy
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    37K with the juice, still live, tick tick tick...

  • mr1931S
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    what a mess

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  • IkesT
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    @mr1931S said:
    what a mess

    That's harsche.

  • Steven59
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    @Steven59 said:
    Will this thread still be active in 44 days to know the final price? :)

    Oh Boy! Made it! 20 hours, Sunday afternoon.............

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  • qrt
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    edited July 25, 2025 9:05AM
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    .

  • Vorpaledged
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    And well deserved, such a magnificent piece!!

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