What do you think? Seemes like a great cull morgan find.
My son found this 1895 O in a dealers morgan bucket. Asked the dealer how much he said 26$. My son was very excited. Did he do well? I guess it's a vf35 to xf40. Anyone else have grading opinions?
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Did you weigh it? I'm suspicious. The UNUM appears to be crooked. The font of the numbers appears off.
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For comparison:
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The coin looks genuine to me.
And I grade it 20, based on 40 for the obverse and 0 for the (missing) reverse.Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
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Sorry no reverse picture yet
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Sorry but that coin screams counterfeit.
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The light is at a very shallow angle making the coin look weird, but it looks OK. If genuine your son made a very good purchase, and the dealer made a careless mistake.
I don't know how any dealer can miss an 1895 from any mint.Collector, occasional seller
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Interesting. The lighting makes the date and the stars seem 3 dimensional. I'd like to see more pictures.
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take it inside and get some better lit pictures. the sun shining from 1 side is casting some shadows that makes it tough to assess
the coin is angle in your hand and parts are out of focus
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A dealer should know what an 1895-O should be worth and it ain't $26. Like Joe said - Weigh it. And the reverse picture.
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Better pictures would definitely help but I was put off by the odd toning pattern and color. That's why I'd need to see a weight... any maybe why you got it in a bulk bin. I'm hopeful it's the real deal... awesome cherry pick . Do you have coin in hand?
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Without the bulk bin story, I would not have batted an eye as to the authenticity. I think your son did very well. I'd give it a VF35, assuming the reverse is a continuation of the obverse's "look".
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I suggest that you do the ring test. In a quiet room with a carpeted floor, balance the coin on the tip of your finger next to your ear and lightly tap the edge of your coin with a wooden pencil. It should have a distinctive melodious ring. It doesn't prove it's real but at least you'll know it's silver rather than some base metal frequently used to make counterfeit silver dollars.
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I'd like to see a reverse pic. It's possible the dealer threw it in the junk box because it had an added mintmark.
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It could be real. I'm 50/50 on the date. But I can't get past the crooked "unum". Maybe it's the angle and focus of the photo but both the spacing and the vertical alignment seems crooked.
I also don't know why that coin, based on the obverse would be in the cull bucket. Is there damage on the reverse?
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The grain stalks at RI look too tall, compared to the coin braddick posted.
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Looks off to me. I say no good.
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looks fake, what does it weigh?
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A real deal 1895-O would NOT be in a dealer’s junk box….
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Why no reverse pics and weight? Simple to do and would add loads of new info.
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The number of people on this thread calling a genuine Morgan dollar counterfeit is disturbing.
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@Top50SetBuilder said:
The number of people on this thread calling a genuine Morgan dollar counterfeit is disturbing.The number of people on this thread that have actually held the coin in hand in more to the point. Without seeing this coin in person... weighing it... and evaluating it... it's all just a WAG...
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@lkenefic said:
@Top50SetBuilder said:
The number of people on this thread calling a genuine Morgan dollar counterfeit is disturbing.The number of people on this thread that have actually held the coin in hand in more to the point. Without seeing this coin in person... weighing it... and evaluating it... it's all just a WAG...
No… not if you know what a Morgan Dollar is supposed to look like.
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@Top50SetBuilder said:
@lkenefic said:
@Top50SetBuilder said:
The number of people on this thread calling a genuine Morgan dollar counterfeit is disturbing.The number of people on this thread that have actually held the coin in hand in more to the point. Without seeing this coin in person... weighing it... and evaluating it... it's all just a WAG...
No… not if you know what a Morgan Dollar is supposed to look like.
...from one out-of-focus picture of the obverse only? At this point, without seeing the reverse, I'm not even convinced that it's an 1895-O. Have you seen it?
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Have I seen the picture? Yes. It’s an 1895 with a far date. That narrows it to O unless it’s an circ proof, but the OP said it was an O mint.
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@Top50SetBuilder said:
The number of people on this thread calling a genuine Morgan dollar counterfeit is disturbing.The lack of wear on edge seems suspect, without seeing reverse how can you determine genuine?
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@davewesen said:
@Top50SetBuilder said:
The number of people on this thread calling a genuine Morgan dollar counterfeit is disturbing.The lack of wear on edge seems suspect, without seeing reverse how can you determine genuine?
There are no edge photos. Not sure what you’re talking about.
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the denticles and stars
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That’s not the edge. I see wear all over the stars. Not sure how the amount of rub on the stars plays into authentication.
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I would not make any definitive conclusions based on the pic.
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@Top50SetBuilder said:
@davewesen said:
@Top50SetBuilder said:
The number of people on this thread calling a genuine Morgan dollar counterfeit is disturbing.The lack of wear on edge seems suspect, without seeing reverse how can you determine genuine?
There are no edge photos. Not sure what you’re talking about.
I think he meant the rim which is not the same as the edge.
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@Top50SetBuilder said:
@davewesen said:
@Top50SetBuilder said:
The number of people on this thread calling a genuine Morgan dollar counterfeit is disturbing.The lack of wear on edge seems suspect, without seeing reverse how can you determine genuine?
While I’d much prefer to see good images of both sides before giving an opinion, chances are excellent that if the obverse is genuine, the reverse is, too.😉
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You really need to post better images of both the obverse and reverse of the coin.
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@Top50SetBuilder said:
The number of people on this thread calling a genuine Morgan dollar counterfeit is disturbing.The number of LOLs you've awarded on this thread (6) is also disturbing.
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@braddick said:
@Top50SetBuilder said:
The number of people on this thread calling a genuine Morgan dollar counterfeit is disturbing.The number of LOLs you've awarded on this thread (6) is also disturbing.
He's a Top10SelfCongratulator
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@jmlanzaf said:
@braddick said:
@Top50SetBuilder said:
The number of people on this thread calling a genuine Morgan dollar counterfeit is disturbing.The number of LOLs you've awarded on this thread (6) is also disturbing.
He's a Top10SelfCongratulator
I don’t recall congratulating anyone… I guess I should congratulate the OP for having a bright son that found a great coin in a junk bin.
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@braddick said:
@Top50SetBuilder said:
The number of people on this thread calling a genuine Morgan dollar counterfeit is disturbing.The number of LOLs you've awarded on this thread (6) is also disturbing.
Why?
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I’m not sure I even believe this story. I’d like to see the weight and all sides of the coin but it still looks fake to me.
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@braddick said:
@Top50SetBuilder said:
The number of people on this thread calling a genuine Morgan dollar counterfeit is disturbing.The number of LOLs you've awarded on this thread (6) is also disturbing.
Why?
Perhaps because you appear to have made fun of those who questioned the authenticity of the coin, when all they had to go by was a mediocre image of the obverse?
I also think it looks genuine but wouldn’t laugh at someone for questioning it.
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I located this PCGS graded 1895-O. It too is slightly tilted before the photo was taken. It has a somewhat similar appearance as the OP's coin.
Looking at the above 1895-O dollar further (yet also being aware there is no reverse photo), I lean heavily toward it being a genuine coin.
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Well ya got 4 choices: Fake coin & Fake story, Real coin & Fake story, Fake coin & Real story, or Real coin & Real story...........
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Genuine coin with PVC removed. This look is familiar to anyone who saw rows of PVC 2x2's in the 1970's. The PVC changes (removes) the toning on the high points that were in contact with the PVC flip.
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@… said:
@jmlanzaf said:
@braddick said:
@Top50SetBuilder said:
The number of people on this thread calling a genuine Morgan dollar counterfeit is disturbing.The number of LOLs you've awarded on this thread (6) is also disturbing.
He's a Top10SelfCongratulator
I don’t recall congratulating anyone… I guess I should congratulate the OP for having a bright son that found a great coin in a junk bin.
SELF Congratulator.
My sympathy on your dropping out of the top 50...
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@Steven59 said:
Well ya got 4 choices: Fake coin & Fake story, Real coin & Fake story, Fake coin & Real story, or Real coin & Real story...........I see no good reason to doubt the coin or the story.
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@braddick said:
I located this PCGS graded 1895-O. It too is slightly tilted before the photo was taken. It has a somewhat similar appearance as the OP's coin.
Looking at the above 1895-O dollar further (yet also being aware there is no reverse photo), I lean heavily toward it being a genuine coin.After that comparison, I feel authentic
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There seems to be as much trolling on the forum as in an average fishing tournament….so, when I see what looks like a dubious story with a blurry image from a low post count/newer member, I’m immediately skeptical. That’s on me….
But, I now see the OP joined us in 2018, so that certainly lends some credibility, at least to me.There are many members if posting a similar story, I would have given it a Like and motioned for a “You Suck” award.
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I can’t see a dealer giving away big ticket coins from a junk box. Junk boxes are for moving cheap stuff at keystone (100 pct profit) for cash flow. Helps the dealer pay operating expenses. He may even sell enough to get a nice slab coin. Or have enough money to get dinner at a drive thru on the way home. If they try haggle with you on JB material you might tell them “these are 10 pct off prices marked” or “the lowest the consignor will go.” Gets rid of the tire kickers, low baller trash lol.
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Here are better pictures
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This is a real story. I'm surprised how many people have said some negative comments. He pinged it weighed it and magnet tested. He specifically handed to the dealer and asked the price even though it was marked.
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Just a kitchen scale says 26.6 grams
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