fake 1896-o $1 pcgs ms63+ on ebay
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That'll fool some people
Oh my, that would fool me for sure. How can you tell it's a fake by looking at it?
Pull up the true view.
Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value. Zero. Voltaire. Ebay coinbowlllc
How convenient, he has two of them
Wow! That is scary good.
eBay removed the listing. I wonder what caused them to do that, considering all of the other counterfeits they've recently deemed not to be in violation of their listing policies.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I can't download the reverse of the counterfeit for some reason, but here is the True View and the obverse of the fake.
Counterfeit
You should be able to see the difference. The look of this fake is similar to others I have noted recently. The relief in the middle of the fake is not right. It's subtle, but there is a difference. The surface also has a wierd luster to it that is not right.
Ref his sold items ; same coin, only the reverse photo, but with the same contact mark on the eagle's breast.
HOWEVER : eBay just nuked the lots.
The portrait caught my attention immediately. It is definitely wrong. I would've known that was a fake. The counterfeiters are getting better with the holders though and they would for sure fool a lot of people as to the validaty of the coin. Nowadays "doing your homework" before buying is an understatement!
🇺🇸 Harlequin
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Not even looking at the coin, the font on the label looks really off.
Yeah, I was looking at that also. I was gonna compare it to a genuine label when I got home.
🇺🇸 Harlequin
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Pretty easy to tell the fake trueview coin is not the same as what is in the holder.
As to why it was removed so fast somebody has a hotline to ebay maybe our host.
A stronger response by EBay is necessary, ban for anyone listing counterfeit coins and much higher scrutiny for newer sellers somehow. Unfortunately EBay seems far more concerned with sales than with legitimacy of products.
Also, if the seller is in the US this should be reported to the FBI or other appropriate authorities by EBay for investigation of wire fraud and other applicable laws, otherwise EBay is facilitating the crimes.
If someone has a hotline to eBay that makes a difference, that’s a very new development. As a large quantity of other listings of counterfeit coins in counterfeit PCGS holders have been reported, yet weren’t removed.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
and the counterfeit would grade higher than a 63+. tho i'd expect one day they take care of that. it doesn't have definition from the bottom of the cap to the south
This seller had 3 listed and I and others in my group reported them to the Bay. One was removed, one sold and one was ended by the seller...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/256893663333
Disclaimer by the seller is a clue, I guess it made him feel less culpable. Peace Roy
"Item description from the seller
I have been notified that this coin may be counterfeit. So buy at your own risk.
It looks good to me, but I am no coin expert."
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I’ve read that boiler plate on eBay offering before. It’s not worth the paper it’s written upon, and there’s no paper involved.
did anyone in your group contact the seller?
I did.
What was his response?
peacockcoins
I messaged the seller, too, but he didn’t reply.
I also reported one of the other1896-O’s that the seller had sold. But eBay found the listing wasn’t in violation of their listing policies even though it had the same picture and PCGS cert number as the one they removed.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
An odd response when I told him they were fakes:
New message from: dave121126 (461TURQUOISE_STAR Star)
Yes, so I've been told, I even added that to description but ebay took it out
I also found it on Ali and notified him of that as well:
i think they still want it to run its course
That is an odd response.
I wish AI could be used for good: such as setting it up to hunt down and delete these counterfeit sellers. Once banned they would be offered a single chance at a recourse via writing an email to eBay explaining why they were banned wrongly. (I'd think none would take eBay up on that offer.)
Also eBay could use an AI vetting process in approving new sellers.
Just a random thought.
peacockcoins
Writing an email to an AI enterprise agent?
Who would pay for this process? A 15% base sellers fee?