What is the value? 1943 Steel Lincoln cent Planchet Pit
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I am looking for the value of this reverse side planchet defect that appears to have existed before die stamping. Can anyone help?
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btw I am only assuming this was a "defective planchet". I may be wrong.
It’s a minor planchet defect. I don’t see any premium here.
Could be a minor Struck Through which wouldn’t really add any value.
Also your 43 cent appears to have been plated which removes any value it would have had.
Likely a small lamination or strike through? Pretty common on copper cents, not sure on war time cents.
Do you mean electrolysis type plating after it was minted? It might be the lighting as its appearance in hand(to a non professional) is no different than many other 43's I own.
Yes, that's what they meant. Regardless of plating or not, a small strike through like that adds no value.
I was afraid of that, Thank you
But... although it is a minor error with little or no premium.... does look like a legit error! So good eye, and keep looking... nice ones are out there waiting to be found!
Don't i see raised metal at the top? Why are we sure that's not a dig?
if it's a hit it would have to be replated. it doesn't look replated
effects of grease during striking. messed up 4 and a strike through. not dramatic enough to add value
This discussion on whether this coin is or isn't plating has got me trying to understand how to identify when it's happened to a coin because I have realized I am clueless about identifying a plated coin vs an original. I think maybe the bright lighting in the first images may have washed out or altered the coloring or details. I am adding these 2 new images under different lighting conditions and I'm interested to see how they look after uploading. The coin on the right is the planchet error coin. The coin on the left has additional rusting but is more typical of the other 43's I own. I found a 2007 state quarter which was gold plated and other than the sound and weight I had no way to identify it was plated. Does plating add any extra detectable weight to a coin?
Plating adds no weight to speak of.
Based on the latest pictures, I'm on the fence about whether they're plated. Maybe they're ok. Maybe they're ok but cleaned. It's hard to tell.
Anything "shiny" on steel cents is suspicious. The normal surfaces are mostly non-reflective.
Plating can add weight; it depends on the type of plating and how it was done. But as a general rule it won't add enough for the coin to weight over its +/- mint tolerance for weight. Your photos are difficult to read as the white balance looks off relative to the light source. If the coins are shiny or reflective odds are high that the have been plated/reprocessed, zinc coated steel cents were more satiny as a finish and bright but not reflective. Here is a photo of one of my steel cents that was taken by a pro photographer as a reference on what an uncirculated coin that has not been messed with looks like.
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I appreciate your time and honest opinion, even if it hurts a little. lol I was going sell the planchet defect cent but everyone agrees there is no premium added for that defect. Considering it might have been cleaned or worse plated maybe it's best to hang on to it anyway. I've also mixed up my 1943's so I don't have a record of where I received any specific coin. You live you learn.
I appreciate that image and information. The photo is a good standard or reference photo. I recently bought a new microscope/camera setup but unfortunately it doesn't have a way for me to alter the white balance. The black base may have caused an issue with the camera so I placed a white sheet of paper under the coins and got a closer match on the color. woohoo The rust on both images seems to be more visible without any post processing of the image taken by the camera. On the right coin I can see rust on the word TRUST and down the right edge which was barely visible in other images. After looking at dozens of images on Ebay and elsewhere I also suspect a few more of my 1943's were cleaned including both of these.
The easiest way to tell if a 1943 cent is plated is to look at the edge. If you can see the steel core
with a thin layer of zinc on the top and bottom, then it is OK.
If the surface is the same as the obverse and reverse, then it is plated.
Both coins do appear to have a very thin and more brilliant layer on both sides. Is this what you would expect to see?
Can’t say for sure with that colouring.
Need a photo with the actual zinc colour.
I think this image is at the limit of my skill set. It was somewhat difficult to set up using another camera so I could get the color correct. I used a macro lens and tried to focus on as much of the edge as I could. The best focus point is about 3/4 up from the bottom of the coin. I hope it helps to identify if either one or both are plated or cleaned. The lighter coin has the planchet error.
I give up, that doesn't even look like the one I uploaded.
If anyone is still reading this post, this is my latest attempt at taking images of this coin which is not the topic of my original post. If any experts in identifying coins that have been altered by cleaning or plating see these images and the video in the last post please help.
i don't think the "look at edge" advice is correct
go by the answers already provided