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How do you price a red Lincoln when it's clearly not red anymore

alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

There are a few coins I'm looking at that I'd be interested in but the label says red when it's clearly not red anymore.
I'm thinking of bidding on the coin as a RB coin. Is that the right approach? I would be fine with an RB coin in my set if I could get the coin at RB money
Suggestions?

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  • DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:
    I’d price such coins as RB, but at the same time, realize that my chances of obtaining them would be very slim. That’s because the odds are that (due to the “RD” designation) someone else would pay a higher price, closer to the value of RD examples.

    In an auction, what happens when the winner gets the coin and realizes that it's not RED in spite of what the label (or the CAC) says?

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,982 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TomB said:
    In general, if I see a copper coin labeled RD and I think it isn't RD then I just go on to the next coin without bidding on or purchasing the first coin. It makes life much easier.

    good point

    the thing is clearly resale challenged if no longer rd

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,087 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DisneyFan said:

    @MFeld said:
    I’d price such coins as RB, but at the same time, realize that my chances of obtaining them would be very slim. That’s because the odds are that (due to the “RD” designation) someone else would pay a higher price, closer to the value of RD examples.

    In an auction, what happens when the winner gets the coin and realizes that it's not RED in spite of what the label (or the CAC) says?

    Presumably, it would depend upon the terms of the sale. Some possible considerations would be whether the coin was imaged, whether the winning bidder had an opportunity to inspect it (or described to him) and his prior bidding history, etc.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,519 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 22, 2025 9:07PM

    Pass on it. You could just low ball heck out of them but it wb tough sell (holder gone bad).

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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,519 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 22, 2025 9:12PM

    @DisneyFan said:

    @MFeld said:
    I’d price such coins as RB, but at the same time, realize that my chances of obtaining them would be very slim. That’s because the odds are that (due to the “RD” designation) someone else would pay a higher price, closer to the value of RD examples.

    In an auction, what happens when the winner gets the coin and realizes that it's not RED in spite of what the label (or the CAC) says?

    He most likely would return it.

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  • oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A bid is just that. As with any item you bid what you’re willing to pay. If you don’t win the item you move on. There are many shades of RD, RB and BN. Price according to your own taste. Lots of auction records to review for guidance. Not rocket science.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,427 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 23, 2025 8:18AM

    @MsMorrisine said:

    @TomB said:
    In general, if I see a copper coin labeled RD and I think it isn't RD then I just go on to the next coin without bidding on or purchasing the first coin. It makes life much easier.

    good point

    the thing is clearly resale challenged if no longer rd

    It is “resale challenged” for a good number of collectors, but it’s still desirable for those who are buying registry points. Since images of the coins are not required for the NGC registry, no one knows the wiser. I lose respect for the top registry collections which have no pictures.

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  • GreenstangGreenstang Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As the saying goes, buy the coin, not the holder. If you saw a coin overgraded at MS 66 and you
    knew it wasn’t better that MS64, would you still pay MS66 because that’s what’s on the holder.

  • DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Two versions of the same coin in PCGS & CACG slabs described as RB with CAC.


    Which picture does one rely on?

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