Possible 1922P Sandblasted, high relief peace dollar discovered
mon1ck
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As I’m sure you see from the title, I believe I found one of the few that are said to be in the wild. I was actually looking at another 22P because it looked oddly smooth and then I remembered that I had bought this one from a common bin and I bought it because it looked “my chemical romancy” and I had never seen one like that before, then I stored it and forgot about it until the other 22 that was previously mentioned. I examined MCR for like four hours that night, weighed it, and just examined every fine line because I had read that the high relief was the reverse of 21P and luckily I have one for comparison. The next day I took it to my trusted coin dealer to examine it, his initial thought was like everyone else’s, that it looked fake, but it read perfect on his machine and loupe exam and then he was very careful about what he said and told me the only way to know for sure is to get it graded, but before I left, I asked if he agreed with me and he confirmed he did.
I’ll post some pictures and I would love to know your thoughts.
Thanks guys!
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If I were you I would be looking for another coin dealer. I don’t see a proof there but I’m only looking at pics.
Good luck
The two rays on the right side of the E are too high and too narrow for the high relief.
It's a regular low relief or a fake.
1922 HR above.
https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/category/dollars/peace-dollar/type-1-high-relief/856
1922 regular low relief
Agree fake. The hair extending out is too long, the rays from cap too thin, line in head band wrong and date too thin. Sorry.
What is "chemical romancy"? I am a chemical engineer with 50 years of experience and never heard of the term.
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Does it ring the same as the others? Something looks off about it.
Here is a PR25 for comparison. https://coins.ha.com/itm/peace-dollars/silver-and-related-dollars/1922-1-matte-pr25-pcgs-judd-2019-pcgs-7383-/a/1348-3983.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515
I agree with yosclimber about the details that do not match.
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VERY easily. There are many, many, many fakes with correct weights and purities.
Here's a fake gold coin that is really 90% gold that is currently on the front page -> https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1111896/update-back-from-grading-1901s-10-liberty-from-an-estate#latest
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Also, you want to know our thoughts and then flip out like a child when you're given TWO opinions, without snark, that don't agree with yours? The only question is whether you'll get tired of insulting everyone before you get banned. In the mean time, do these look identical?
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I understand that you're a little upset with what's been said. We're just trying to help, and there are a lot of members here that are some of the most knowledgeable collectors in the Hobby.
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He found a Peace Dollar he thought was a proof. He devoted substantial. effort to proving that the coin is a proof. He succeeded in doing so.
Looks like it might be two 1964 Kennedy SMS Specimen halves disguising themselves as a 1922 proof $.
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Send it in if you're so sure. We'll be waiting for the results.
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My apologies to you as well, move on
The left is this coin that you provided the link to!
https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1922-1-high-relief-sandblasted-antique-finish-j-2018/97382
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Why not just send it in for grading?> @lermish said:
Your attention to detail is impeccable.
If you think these are identical, you either need to learn about coins, glasses, or mental help.
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The coin you just said is clearly a fake is the real example you provided the link to on coinfacts. And your coin does not match it.
I can't believe I already wasted 5 minutes on this stupid thread. What's the point.
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Isn't it pretty clear at this point that the OP is beyond help? I can't be the only one thinking that the solution is to let the trolls starve of attention.
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I was thinking the OP was fishing for a fight, which he got.
I see no reason to believe this is a sandblasted HR.
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I have one identical to the OP.
How cool there are now two sand blasted 1922 Peace dollars now known.
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Your coin is a business strike. I've held the 1921 matte proof in hand, this one just doesn't look whatsoever like a proof coin at all.
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I don't see any romantic chemicals on yours. 🧐
Just a dash.
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lermish: you're as thick as two short plonks!
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lemish: You're welcome!
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The rays don't match at the start as others have posted.
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True. An amateur would normally have some knowledge and ability.
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