Odd email received about an auction won

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Flatwoods
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Hi Mr. ******
During preparation for shipping we noticed scratches that were not shown in photos.
We are sending the lot for reholder.

Seems odd. Scratches are easily removed if on the holder. Did they mean the holder?
I'm guessing something happened that shouldn't have.
I guess I will see how it plays out.

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  • giantsfan20
    giantsfan20 Posts: 1,750 ✭✭✭✭
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    Why don,’t you contact and ask them yourself and post a link or picture of item. In any case that was very nice to get it reholdered for you. :)

    What firm was this?

  • Project Numismatics
    Project Numismatics Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 7, 2025 12:32PM
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    Perhaps the slab was damaged after photos were taken? Not an ideal situation and I think they should have given you the choice of whether to reholder but I appreciate the honesty.

    I won a coin a few years ago from a well known (but not HA, SB or GC) auctioneer and the slab arrived badly damaged. I was pretty upset at the nondisclosure.

  • oldabeintx
    oldabeintx Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Very nice of them IMO. And all scratches are NOT easily removed.

  • retirednow
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    would have been nice if they gave you an option ... but still commenable that they took a proactive step. Years ago I had a lot from Heritage back in the days when they put their lot information tag with tape that overlap the rear of the slab. When I pealed off the tape the NGC silver label backing was stripped. Heritage offer to take to have it reslabed by NGC at no cost too me. Nice that they offered but I passed, as I never like sending pieces in the mail if I do not need too.

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  • JimTyler
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    A very nice way to say we got a better offer you’re SOL.

  • MFeld
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    @JimTyler said:
    A very nice way to say we got a better offer you’re SOL.

    I don’t know whether you were trying to be funny or misunderstood the opening post. But in case it was the latter, the OP indicated that the seller was having the coin reholdered, not that it was being sold to someone else (who’d made a better offer).

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  • braddick
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    ^
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  • blitzdude
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    Not sure what's so odd, sounds like the slab is jacked, and they want to make it right. That said they should have consulted with you first before deciding to send it in. Depending on which service you may see it in days or many months. RGDS!

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  • winesteven
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    I think the auction company should be commended, and unless the buyer planned on flipping the coin, I see no big deal that the buyer was not given a choice. As noted, without a motive of a quick flip, what’s the big deal about waiting a few weeks or a bit more to get the coin in hand?

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  • Flatwoods
    Flatwoods Posts: 4,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 14, 2025 5:39AM
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    I thought I'd update on this. I finally received the newly holdered medal yesterday.
    I'm not sure that I wouldn't rather have a scratch. Pretty hard to even see the medal in hand.

  • Namvet69
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    @Flatwoods What is the primordial ooze trapped inside the holder?

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  • Flatwoods
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    @Namvet69 said:
    @Flatwoods What is the primordial ooze trapped inside the holder?

    Good question. Almost looks like air bubbles between layers of plastic

  • MedalCollector
    MedalCollector Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The oversized slabs for these large, thick medals often times severely hinders one’s ability to view the medal within. People that complain about the prongs in NGC holders have nothing on the issues that collectors of these large medals run into when slabbing.

    Sometimes the slab is way too thick, making it difficult to get light onto the entire medal’s surfaces. Sometimes the gasket is way too small, totally covering up the design rims and even the design of a medal, in some cases. Both issues are extremely aggravating, in my opinion.

    I’m not sure what’s going on with this one. Sometimes PCGS will place the medal between two transparent sheets of plastic within the holder, but I’m not sure that’s what’s going on here.

    Crack it out, IMO.

  • SmEagle1795
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    That's the after picture?? How bad was it before :o

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  • TomB
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    My guess is that trapped air between plastic layers wasn't forced or rolled out prior to slabbing. It should be harmless to the medal, but it certainly hinders viewing.

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  • nencoin
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    You sure that's not a protective film on the holder? I feel like I've received oversized slabs back from PCGS with a peel-off film.

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  • Flatwoods
    Flatwoods Posts: 4,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I waited a while on this one.
    Had time to calm down and study on it.
    I'm sure PCGS and Stacks will make it right.
    I contacted Stacks this morning.
    Waiting on a reply. I will update as able.

  • Flatwoods
    Flatwoods Posts: 4,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @nencoin said:
    You sure that's not a protective film on the holder? I feel like I've received oversized slabs back from PCGS with a peel-off film.

    Yes, I'm sure. When I saw it, I was hoping that was it. It got worse after peeling the film off.

  • messydesk
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    I saw that on a PCGS coin I was shooting at CSNS a couple days ago, and not one in a huge holder. Not sure exactly what it is, but I'm assuming it's some sort of oil on the inside surface of the shell. This is something PCGS needs to address.

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  • Flatwoods
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    @messydesk said:
    I saw that on a PCGS coin I was shooting at CSNS a couple days ago, and not one in a huge holder. Not sure exactly what it is, but I'm assuming it's some sort of oil on the inside surface of the shell. This is something PCGS needs to address.

    I thought it was possibly air between the layers of plastic. Not sure if there are even layers but it does have an oily, rainbow sheen.
    If that is the case it is definitely an issue.

  • nencoin
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    Ugh, sorry to hear.> @Flatwoods said:

    @nencoin said:
    You sure that's not a protective film on the holder? I feel like I've received oversized slabs back from PCGS with a peel-off film.

    Yes, I'm sure. When I saw it, I was hoping that was it. It got worse after peeling the film off.

    That's too bad. Sorry to hear!

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  • Flatwoods
    Flatwoods Posts: 4,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @nencoin said:
    Ugh, sorry to hear.> @Flatwoods said:

    @nencoin said:
    You sure that's not a protective film on the holder? I feel like I've received oversized slabs back from PCGS with a peel-off film.

    Yes, I'm sure. When I saw it, I was hoping that was it. It got worse after peeling the film off.

    That's too bad. Sorry to hear!

    I actually found it a bit humorous that one would try to protect that slab.

  • MsMorrisine
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    i'd want a reholder on that

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  • jmlanzaf
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    @Flatwoods said:

    @messydesk said:
    I saw that on a PCGS coin I was shooting at CSNS a couple days ago, and not one in a huge holder. Not sure exactly what it is, but I'm assuming it's some sort of oil on the inside surface of the shell. This is something PCGS needs to address.

    I thought it was possibly air between the layers of plastic. Not sure if there are even layers but it does have an oily, rainbow sheen.
    If that is the case it is definitely an issue.

    It's just air. This is common in comic book slabs. Google "Newton rings". It's just an interference effect.

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  • jmlanzaf
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    @Flatwoods said:

    @messydesk said:
    I saw that on a PCGS coin I was shooting at CSNS a couple days ago, and not one in a huge holder. Not sure exactly what it is, but I'm assuming it's some sort of oil on the inside surface of the shell. This is something PCGS needs to address.

    I thought it was possibly air between the layers of plastic. Not sure if there are even layers but it does have an oily, rainbow sheen.
    If that is the case it is definitely an issue.

    "Newton rings". No oil

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  • JBK
    JBK Posts: 17,879 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    FWIW, I've seen the "Newton's Rings" effect on pure Mylar currency sleeves and similar holders. It sure looks like an oil slick but it is not that, at least in situations involving inert plastics.

  • Moldnut
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    Wow, no bueno.

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