New to me: Trader Bea PCGS Holder
The most colorful PCGS holder I’ve ever seen. What’s the story?
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Can we get a pic of the reverse?
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Let’s see…
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I guess if you get enough coins slabbed and pay a fee, you can get any design you want within reason.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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More holder designs means more market confusion in an era when holders as well as coins are being counterfeited. How many collectors and dealers are really expert enough to tell the real from the fake?
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He's a high-volume online dealer out of Nebraska. Lots of folks like these holders; he has an NGC version too. I suspect this won't be the last one you see.
If we were all the same, the world would be an incredibly boring place.
Tommy
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One of the largest sellers on whatnot. Does all the vault box breaks and has his own series of breaks that these slabs are usually the “winners”
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Ugly holders, but given his market it makes sense.
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I wouldn't buy a valuable coin in one of these but I do like the design as a low cost or sample slab.
Reminds me of some of the Asian specialty slabs https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/world-coins/asian-city-collection-sample-slab-236-388-extras/17609
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I'd pay less for a coin in this holder to cover the reholdering cost.
John
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@PerryHall said:
I guess if you get enough coins slabbed and pay a fee, you can get any design you want within reason.This answer is exactly correct.
Trader Bea (aka Bjorn) is a nice guy who is one of, if not the single biggest coin streamer on WhatNot. Pretty remarkable how frequently he is streaming there selling coins. His colored cores seem to have a small following, but I agree with @messydesk -- not my personal cup of tea.
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He’s having fun
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I’ve noticed a few of these recently on eBay. For slab security reasons, this is a bad idea.
Dave
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@Dave99B said:
I’ve noticed a few of these recently on eBay. For slab security reasons, this is a bad idea.Dave
Gaudy gimmicky slabs just cheapen the brand.
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Seems like Bjorn is trying to make coin collecting ‘fun’ and ‘’popular’ with a younger audience.
Is that bad?
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@Typekat said:
Seems like Bjorn is trying to make coin collecting ‘fun’ and ‘’popular’ with a younger audience.Is that bad?
Nothing bad about it. Our hobby certainly benefits from having more Trader Bea's out there for the exact reason you mentioned @Typekat.
FWIW, I just personally don't feel connected to the colored slabs, but my opinion means diddly squat because he's not making them for me; he's making them for his own audience, which is only growing larger based on on how many people watch his streams regularly.
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Good information here, thanks to all and happy new year!
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Interesting to hear about this Bjorn in Nebraska. I'll have to check out his site and find out where he is in Nebraska. I don't care for his holders, though.
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Last time I saw Bjorn, his wife’s hair was the same color: blue. Not implying she is a “blue-hair”
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Frankly I like consistency. Not a fan of bunch diff holder types.
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@PerryHall said:
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Gaudy gimmicky slabs just cheapen the brand.
Regardless of how you look at it, that ship has sailed. Trader Bea, Vaultbox, Ultrabreaks, Witter Bricks, First Strikes, autographs, NGCx, Bag Frags, white/black/red/green/blue/purple plastic inserts, oversized holders, etc. My "old guy gripe" is that with all of these "innovations," no one can seem to replicate the SEGS topside label where you can read what the coin is when stored. : )
If we were all the same, the world would be an incredibly boring place.
Tommy
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I like it,,,,,, plenty of room for stickers on the front side.
GrandAm
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@JeffersonFrog said:
@PerryHall said:
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Gaudy gimmicky slabs just cheapen the brand.
Regardless of how you look at it, that ship has sailed. Trader Bea, Vaultbox, Ultrabreaks, Witter Bricks, First Strikes, autographs, NGCx, Bag Frags, white/black/red/green/blue/purple plastic inserts, oversized holders, etc. My "old guy gripe" is that with all of these "innovations," no one can seem to replicate the SEGS topside label where you can read what the coin is when stored. : )
You mean like ANACS holders?
Smitten with DBLCs.
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Plenty of these for sale on eBay…..just in case you want one…..or more! 😉
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@Cougar1978 said:
Frankly I like consistency. Not a fan of bunch diff holder types.Agree. With the proliferation of counterfeit PCGS slabs, having dozens of different slab designs make it more difficult for the casual collector to avoid the counterfeit slabs.
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No security chip tag displayed?
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@Namvet69 said:
No security chip tag displayed?There is a NFC logo on the holder (i.e., obverse side of coin, lower left corner).
But, you are right about the fact that the usual NFC symbol is missing from the label. Also, appears to be missing the usual hologram strip.
As an aside, there is nothing in the 'cert verification' about the holder being unique. If PCGS is going to continue to do these, they should consider identifying them as different.
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The holder tends to blend in with the CEO's hair......
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When it comes to these kind of custom holders/labels/inserts, I'm classifying them as variant-production just like a collector's pedigree. Unless they explicitly say sample.
That reminds me, I need to update the white paper.
So OP's PCGS slab would be
Label type 9 (non standard)
Label: Purple, TraderBea name and logo
Insert: Purple, TraderBea hexagon patternSInce there is no non-standard label text, I omit the Obv: and Rev: data.
The NGC version would be
Label type 9 (non standard)
Label: Purple with impresionist background with dark grey bee and honeycomb segment logo right
Insert: Solid Purple(better photos here: https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/8158652-103/66/)
There are also Trader Bea samples from WhatNot
Label type 9
Label: Yellow with WhatNot logo top right
Obv: SAMPLE / TraderBea Event / 10/25/2024
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The link highlighted the parenthesis which brings it to an unknown location on the website. Here is a fixed link for others to click:
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I googled it. Apparently, the coins are considered PQ.
Andy Lustig
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@MrEureka said:
I googled it. Apparently, the coins are considered PQ.By whom?
John
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Im not sure if they operate under that name anymore, but here is the website associated with these slabs. They are whatnot dealers, typically not the type of coins any of us would consider "PQ", whole different target market.
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Well. . . by the submitter, or course.
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It appears ANACS has entered the chat:
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omg
i'd only take rarities in that holder
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That destroys the inherent beauty of the coin. I like a simple blue PCGS holder with Gold Shield and Green CAC.
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would a vaultbox or witter brick coin be less desired with such a holder?
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Now some seem to also have the name/acronym "BERT" in big letters on one side. freaking hideous. Will never buy one.
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@Wolfpack98 said:
Now some seem to also have the name/acronym "BERT" in big letters on one side. freaking hideous. Will never buy one.
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give it 20 years and they will be collectible
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@PeakRarities said:
Im not sure if they operate under that name anymore, but here is the website associated with these slabs. They are whatnot dealers, typically not the type of coins any of us would consider "PQ", whole different target market.
I don't know. I'm starting to see some higher graded coins with his slab on ebay. Multiple 65's and higher. couple that are a few hundred bucks. I'll never buy one. I don't trust the grade on them and it detracts from the coin IMO
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Aren’t the coins in these holders what Laura Sperber would call drecks anyway? Dreck coins in dreck holders.
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Branding. The new face of numismatics. Bells, whistles, & stickers
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@TwoSides2aCoin said:
Branding. The new face of numismatics. Bells, whistles, & stickersNumismatics isn't about numismatics anymore.
John
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Ah yes, the refractorization of the numismatic market.
Can’t wait until the gold parallel holders serial numbered to /999 start being released.
Let’s just start calling first year of type Rookie Coins already.
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