1957 Double mint set
Hello,
I am trying to confirm some details on the 1957 double mint set. The one I have in my possession is in cellophane wrappers with a manilla envelope but without the boards they came with. Can anyone confirm how they came? IE what the OGP was?
I've got people claiming they are unc sets (I can't find any proof of unc sets in 1957), and others claim only the proof sets come in cellophane.
Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks!
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Images might help.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
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@spyglassdesign said:
Interesting! I haven’t seen an original 1957 Mint set in that type of packaging. But unless someone knows that can’t be the case, I’m open to the possibility.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
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Wow!! That is crazy!! So it use to look something like this?
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That’s weird, I thought those were stopped in 55. I think about midway through the year they changed to boards.
Not sure about this unless someone thought it might save space?
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@OAKSTAR said:
Wow!! That is crazy!! So it use to look something like?That's a proof set. These are not proofs. What's interesting is there are 2 coins in each "pouch" of sorts. I wonder if someone repackaged them after opening them? They are date and mm appropriate so I don't have any reason to believe they weren't from a 1957 double mint set. I'm just unsure of packaging.
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@spyglassdesign - Yes. 🥴
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@OAKSTAR said:
@spyglassdesign - Yes. 🥴yes what? repackaged or original?
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Can we see the other side of these two packages?
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I don't know. I posted a proof set, that's what I was referring to.
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@OAKSTAR said:
Can we see the other side of these two packages?
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@spyglassdesign, your “set” is a made up set, not original from the US Mint. Here is an official original US Mint double uncirculated mint set with envelope. Looks like someone put uncirculated (?) coins in cellophane holders that originally held earlier proof set. 1936-1942 and then again 1950- 1954.
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I'm stumped! It looks like original packaging that sure wasn't stored properly!
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@OAKSTAR said:
I'm stumped! It looks like original packaging that sure wasn't stored properly!The odd thing is that there are 2 coins in each pouch. That alone is pulling up a red flag.
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I'm in @jfriedm56's column.
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Double uncirculated sets never came in cellophane. They came unprotected in open cardboard which accounts for the vivid colors on all of these original sets. If the silver coins are bright white and the cents bright orange copper, they didn’t come from original sets. Here’s an example from 1956 of the colors
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From the looks, like jfriedm56 said, they are a re-packaged group of mint set coins. Not original mint set packaging either.
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@Bochiman said:
From the looks, like jfriedm56 said, they are a re-packaged group of mint set coins. Not original mint set packaging either.I'm assuming there is no way to identify a mint set coin from an unc coin...
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@jfriedm56 said:
@spyglassdesign, your “set” is a made up set, not original from the US Mint. Here is an official original US Mint double uncirculated mint set with envelope. Looks like someone put uncirculated (?) coins in cellophane holders that originally held earlier proof set. 1936-1942 and then again 1950- 1954.You don’t think it’s possible that someone at the Mint messed up or had to make the best of a temporary problem?
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@spyglassdesign said:
@Bochiman said:
From the looks, like jfriedm56 said, they are a re-packaged group of mint set coins. Not original mint set packaging either.I'm assuming there is no way to identify a mint set coin from an unc coin...
Pretty much.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
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This is a repackaged group of coins. I can't prove it, but unless and until someone can prove otherwise, it is a repackaged group of coins.
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@MFeld said:
@jfriedm56 said:
@spyglassdesign, your “set” is a made up set, not original from the US Mint. Here is an official original US Mint double uncirculated mint set with envelope. Looks like someone put uncirculated (?) coins in cellophane holders that originally held earlier proof set. 1936-1942 and then again 1950- 1954.You don’t think it’s possible that someone at the Mint messed up or had to make the best of a temporary problem?
No sir. Uncirculated double mint sets were never issued in cellophane. Only in cardboard holders with pink or green paper covering the coins.
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@jfriedm56 said:
@MFeld said:
@jfriedm56 said:
@spyglassdesign, your “set” is a made up set, not original from the US Mint. Here is an official original US Mint double uncirculated mint set with envelope. Looks like someone put uncirculated (?) coins in cellophane holders that originally held earlier proof set. 1936-1942 and then again 1950- 1954.You don’t think it’s possible that someone at the Mint messed up or had to make the best of a temporary problem?
No sir. Uncirculated double mint sets were never issued in cellophane. Only in cardboard holders with pink or green paper covering the coins.
Thank you. I’m very familiar with the double mint sets and their packaging. I was just day-dreaming about a one-off exception, due to an unknown reason.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
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I've had proof sets in cellos and they were always stapled. I don't see any staples on your cellos. So, I'm saying a made of set after they left the mint.
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@AUandAG said:
I've had proof sets in cellos and they were always stapled. I don't see any staples on your cellos. So, I'm saying a made of set after they left the mint.
bobLooking closely at the OPs picture, there is a staple in the top left of the cellophane. These are obviously put together sets by someone randomly with circulation coins.
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Nice to learn! Thanks.
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Yes, most likely that IS an original 1957 double mint set obtained from the Mint. But repackaged by its owner.
My guess is that the collector had seen his prior year mint sets tarnish over time from storage in the cardboard holders, and took the precaution of switching out the packaging.
Back then, people liked their shiny silver coins to stay that way!
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@Typekat said:
@spyglassdesignYes, most likely that IS an original 1957 double mint set obtained from the Mint. But repackaged by its owner.
My guess is that the collector had seen his prior year mint sets tarnish over time from storage in the cardboard holders, and took the precaution of switching out the packaging.
Back then, people liked their shiny silver coins to stay that way!
Absolutely don’t think so. Just accumulated coins regrouped. @spyglassdesign cut these open and show us those coins.
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@jfriedm56 said:
@Typekat said:
@spyglassdesignYes, most likely that IS an original 1957 double mint set obtained from the Mint. But repackaged by its owner.
My guess is that the collector had seen his prior year mint sets tarnish over time from storage in the cardboard holders, and took the precaution of switching out the packaging.
Back then, people liked their shiny silver coins to stay that way!
Absolutely don’t think so. Just accumulated coins regrouped. @spyglassdesign cut these open and show us those coins.
If you want to see anything close up let me know. I think a couple of the Jefferson could be fs... One possible fbl on one of the Franklin's but it needs conserved too.
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Well at least you have $3.40 in 90% silver.
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@jfriedm56 said:
Well at least you have $3.40 in 90% silver.$45.88 in melt in the halves alone lol (according to NGC)
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@spyglassdesign said:
@jfriedm56 said:
Well at least you have $3.40 in 90% silver.$45.88 in melt in the halves alone lol (according to NGC)
He meant $3.40 face value in silver.
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What do you think, an acetone bath and a quick dip for the silver??
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Yes, a blooming mixed bag there, ain’t it?
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@OAKSTAR said:
What do you think, an acetone bath and a quick dip for the silver??Yeah I think a little acetone will do some of them good!
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On the silver and copper nickel, please go with the clear ammonia "dip" with plenty of rinse. I think you will see a very nice result....Have written on this before...
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@7Jaguars said:
On the silver and copper nickel, please go with the clear ammonia "dip" with plenty of rinse. I think you will see a very nice result....Have written on this before...Thanks for the tip!
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