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Can Anyone Who Knows More Than me Look at This and Tell me if it is a Fake?
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Not that I am looking to buy it. I just thought that the wear seemed off and wanted to see other people's comments.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/226359302332
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Gut feeling is genuine, horribly abused, but I don't know that I could ever be certain even with it in hand.
What is interesting is the seller of the above dime is a Capt and the first response to this thread is a Capt.
Now, moving on. . . yes... it is genuine and if you are truly brave enough, check out the Capt (seller's) Indian cents.
In that condition, authentication can't be done. Send it to any grading service and they will return it in a body bag with a note that authenticity can't be determined.
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I vote genuine. Heavily worn Seated half dimes - weakly struck ones, in particular - can look quite odd.
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I think it's genuine.
Likely genuine, but can’t tell for sure.
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My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):
https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/
I vote genuine also , just smoothed over something terrible
When you were working at NGC as a professional grader, would NGC have slabbed this coin and guaranteed its authenticity?
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Captains and kings!
Sorry, I really have no way of knowing the answer to your question.
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It's a fake! Run Forrest, run!
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Mistakes are natural. But repeated mistakes without reflection are something else. That may be the “stupidity” he was referring to. In research, he admitted uncertainty openly. “If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?” This shows humility. Even a Nobel laureate accepted doubt. That humility makes the quote less cynical and more observational.
Dryer coin? Wait, did they have clothes dryers in 1841?
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They had wind and solar powered clothes dryers. They also had wind powered ships back then.
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Clotheslines did not do that.
When I saw these, my first thought was cast.
Here's one of my cast.
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That was my first thought, and also I thought that an 1841 dryer coin is nuts. I then thought that it kind of looked cast, because it has an almost completely flat Lady Liberty, but still appears to have significant relief. The rims are full as well.
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I believe it is genuine, and it has the appearance of a pocket piece. Or perhaps high speed whizzed with high friction and heat that blurred all the devices, then worn slightly to smooth everything out. There sure are a lot of circular hairlines.
@OAKSTAR Casting bubbles do not displace metal. You can see the raised material around the two central marks that indicate they were not made during the casting or striking process.
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A specific Gravity test would tell you if it was silver or not. A contemporary counterfeit would not have been made in silver.
If silver, the weight would be about 5-6% less than the standard weight.
If it passes those two tests, it is probably genuine. That said, it is still a candidate for a "No Decision" ruling on the grounds that it would be so hard to prove anything else.
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Are all these casting bubbles?
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That pitting and porosity looks more like corrosion from being buried or from being exposed to saltwater as in a sea salvaged coin.
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Can't make any conclusions based on those blurry photos.
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Maybe this will help.
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@OAKSTAR I thought we were talking about the OPs coin. Nobody had any questions about your counterfeit.
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@jacrispies - Now there's an intelligent answer!! This discussion and example will hopefully help the OP with an answer, obviously not you!
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Cleanup on aisle 3! 🤣 😂
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