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1965 P error Lincoln penny

MgfrdMgfrd Posts: 4 ✭
edited July 26, 2024 3:21PM in U.S. Coin Forum

I'm new to the forum. I have a 1965P Lincoln penny and I think there's an error on the inside of the rim on the reverse at approximately 10 to 12 o'clock and the splintered inner rim looks like a number 7 that reaches down to and attaches itself to the outside of the first letter S in the word states. I cannot find any error of this kind on any Lincoln penny in this year and mint after hours on the Internet. Looking for some input



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    ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,915 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Welcome to the forum! :)

    Your images are a bit small & don't enlarge well.
    It appears to be post mint damage. (PMD)

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    MgfrdMgfrd Posts: 4 ✭
    edited July 26, 2024 3:26PM

    How can it be pmd. This coin is MS BU quality. Never been in circulation My images enlarge fine on my end

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    ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,915 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Mgfrd said:
    How can it be pmd. This coin is MS BU quality. Never been in circulation

    Cents are mass produced and can be damaged at the mint by sorting or wrapping machines.
    Once they leave the mint they can be damaged by companies that roll & distribute the coins. (Lumis/Brinks)

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    bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like pmd, damage. You can see where the metal has been displaced.

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    What do you mean by no other identical coins for the year. I have 250 of these in original paper bank rolls from Sunnyvale Calif. All MS BU never been in circulation. This is the only one with this deformity. Are you telling me this the only penny in what I have that just so happened to be the only one damaged like this. Are you saying error coins are only one of a certain coin and year and no other coins of say the 1955 Lincoln Wheatie DD are out there. Are you saying only one exists and newly discovered error coins in certain years never turn up every year or so. Look closely. My photos are fine. It looks like a number 7 stamped in the upper left corner

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    ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,915 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Mgfrd said:
    It looks like a number 7 stamped in the upper left corner

    Why would the mint put a 7 on the reverse?
    They don't just have extra 7's floating around the die making room that jump onto dies. ;)

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    IkesTIkesT Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ifthevamzarockin said:

    @Mgfrd said:
    It looks like a number 7 stamped in the upper left corner

    Why would the mint put a 7 on the reverse?

    For a genius to find it. :D

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    GreenstangGreenstang Posts: 1,660 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There is no way for that to happen when the coin was struck so it is damage.
    Anything that happens to a coin after it leaves the ejection chamber is damage
    no matter where or how it happened.

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    bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Another non-believer!

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    Clackamas1Clackamas1 Posts: 1,726 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is not a 7. it looks like it could be a planchet flaw, which detracts from the value, I can't really tell the photo is so poor. If you want to find errors look at Lincoln cents from 2009, specifically Lincoln sitting on a log P mints. There are like 40 different DDR's.

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    Old_CollectorOld_Collector Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Don't think of the minting process as a fine golden glove thing, it is an industrial mass production, take a look at the last minute of this 3 minute video of the Denver mint https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FwSibJjJQ4

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    CregCreg Posts: 1,751 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The real indication will be the offers in your mailbox to purchase the cent.
    I’m looking for the “4” in the rim.

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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,233 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is just a damaged cent. If you are convinced it is a rare error send it in to PCGS for certification.

    All glory is fleeting.
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    GiveMeProofGiveMeProof Posts: 707 ✭✭✭✭

    Sorry to hijack the thread, but after the coins are punched from the raw material, they can't be perfectly flat, can they? What is the process that would flatten them?

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    CregCreg Posts: 1,751 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Complicated—they work it out one at a time—

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    CregCreg Posts: 1,751 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Creg said:
    Complicated—they work it out one at a time—

    Those concrete blocks flatten unwieldy gold dollar alloy puddles. The argon light is kinda like spray starch for your button-down after you press it.

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    IkesTIkesT Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Creg said:
    Those concrete blocks flatten unwieldy gold dollar alloy puddles. The argon light is kinda like spray starch for your button-down after you press it.

    An elegant solution, but the simplest explanation is best.

    They flatten the planchets by punching sevens all over them. :D

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    AotearoaAotearoa Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It’s remarkable how often this movie gets re-run.

    Smitten with DBLCs.

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    GiveMeProofGiveMeProof Posts: 707 ✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @GiveMeProof said:
    Sorry to hijack the thread, but after the coins are punched from the raw material, they can't be perfectly flat, can they? What is the process that would flatten them?

    Could you clarify the question? Are you talking about the planchets being punched from the "raw material" or the coins being struck? The struck coins are flat as the planchet is struck by two dies with tremendous force.

    Thanks for responding @jmlanzaf I'm sorry I didn't make myself clear. I DID mean the planchets being struck from the raw material.

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    World67World67 Posts: 13,098 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Mgfrd said:
    What do you mean by no other identical coins for the year. I have 250 of these in original paper bank rolls from Sunnyvale Calif. All MS BU never been in circulation. This is the only one with this deformity. Are you telling me this the only penny in what I have that just so happened to be the only one damaged like this. Are you saying error coins are only one of a certain coin and year and no other coins of say the 1955 Lincoln Wheatie DD are out there. Are you saying only one exists and newly discovered error coins in certain years never turn up every year or so. Look closely. My photos are fine. It looks like a number 7 stamped in the upper left corner

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    RobertScotLoverRobertScotLover Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here we go again. Newbee comes here to ask the learned members a question about a supposed mint error. He/she get the answer from the members and its not good enough. My only personal problem with this is that I opened the thread

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    JBKJBK Posts: 17,904 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GiveMeProof said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @GiveMeProof said:
    Sorry to hijack the thread, but after the coins are punched from the raw material, they can't be perfectly flat, can they? What is the process that would flatten them?

    Could you clarify the question? Are you talking about the planchets being punched from the "raw material" or the coins being struck? The struck coins are flat as the planchet is struck by two dies with tremendous force.

    Thanks for responding @jmlanzaf I'm sorry I didn't make myself clear. I DID mean the planchets being struck from the raw material.

    "Raw material" = strip.

    Google "blank planchet" and you'll see what they look like. I'm not sure of your definition of "perfectly flat" but its close enough for me. ;)

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