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This Penny Was found In an Record player It's probably been there for 54 years I hope the pictures a
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The coin you posted is completely normal and is only worth one cent.
Not unusual. A cent was often used to increase the weight of the needle in order to keep the record from skipping.
That's way different answer than the last expert that said it was a double die first strike large date so forth
Well your “expert” is partially right, it is a Large Date 1970. It is not a doubled Die and
is impossible to tell if it was a first strike. Still a nice looking cent.
It is safe to assume the "last expert" that told you it was a doubled die; first strike, and a Large Date is in fact,
not an expert in numismatics. Perhaps he is an expert in other topics, just not coins.
I wonder if that “expert” was found on YouTube?
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
While growing up on the east coast an S cent was an exciting find.
Well...we played 'Frampton Comes Alive' so many times we needed three Ike dollars and a coupla Kennedy's to keep it from skipping.
Large date is the more common version.
If your expert said "first strike", I'd like to see credentials. It might be a good strike, it could be an early strike, but it would be very hard to tell.
There is no major doubled die for that date. But I see no evidence of any doubling, not even machine doubling.
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And the "expert" offered to buy the coin for how much?
Maybe 2 cents
Not really. The 'S' Lincolns made from 1968 through 1974 all command a premium.
"Two things are infinite: human stupidity and the universe; and I'm not sure about the universe."
-Albert Einstein-
Mistakes are natural. But repeated mistakes without reflection are something else. That may be the “stupidity” he was referring to. In research, he admitted uncertainty openly. “If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?” This shows humility. Even a Nobel laureate accepted doubt. That humility makes the quote less cynical and more observational.
Even damaged? How much are you paying?
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I think it was very rude to refer to him as “damaged” just because he said the date commands a premium.
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Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
You might say it was harsche.
Oh, now I see.
He found a cent in a phonograph.
For most LP record cartridges, the stylus (needle) recommended tracking force or "weight" on any decent turntable would be between 1.5-2 grams. Use of a cent (+/-2.5 grams) on top of an already counterweighted tonearm would smash it and do more damage to the LP or record than desired.
Yes, more weight than specified will keep it from skipping, but probably will ruin the record or LP for any future audiophile.
The cent is common and nothing special, but good record albums are very scarce items worthy of protecting.
My multi-thousand-dollar album collection screamed in terror and begged me to post this.
My US Mint Commemorative Medal Set
Ahh brings back memories, not all of them good.
I don't think I ever did the penny trick, but I do recall that a warped record could bounce a light arm around and cause skipping on the record.
If I were buyingthese, which I currently am not, I would be a buyer at about $.05-$.06 apiece or $2.50-$3.00 per roll.
"Two things are infinite: human stupidity and the universe; and I'm not sure about the universe."
-Albert Einstein-
Mistakes are natural. But repeated mistakes without reflection are something else. That may be the “stupidity” he was referring to. In research, he admitted uncertainty openly. “If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?” This shows humility. Even a Nobel laureate accepted doubt. That humility makes the quote less cynical and more observational.
So, $0.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
The 'S' mint Lincolns 1968-74 do not show up in FR $25 boxes that much. I've got several rolls of them from going through about 20 boxes a few years ago.
"Two things are infinite: human stupidity and the universe; and I'm not sure about the universe."
-Albert Einstein-
Mistakes are natural. But repeated mistakes without reflection are something else. That may be the “stupidity” he was referring to. In research, he admitted uncertainty openly. “If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?” This shows humility. Even a Nobel laureate accepted doubt. That humility makes the quote less cynical and more observational.
You might consider looking at the value of what seems to be an antique record player OP, rather than the cent.
I’m curious about the manufacturer of the phonograph/record player/turntable as well.
A total of about 1000 rolls of cents from the bank (FR Bank of Minneapolis) checked by me for "what's out there." 167 's' pieces (mostly XF/AU grade, many with gobs of mint luster) dated 1968-74 found. 167/50,000=.00334 or 1/3 of 1% of the cents I checked were found to be late date (1968-74) 's' mint pieces. Rolled and saved.
"Two things are infinite: human stupidity and the universe; and I'm not sure about the universe."
-Albert Einstein-
Mistakes are natural. But repeated mistakes without reflection are something else. That may be the “stupidity” he was referring to. In research, he admitted uncertainty openly. “If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?” This shows humility. Even a Nobel laureate accepted doubt. That humility makes the quote less cynical and more observational.
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How many times do we have to say that vinyl and coins don't mix? (flips or records)
Circulated "S" cents from the late 1960s or early 1970s are really nothing but face value. The so-called premium for them is far less than what it costs to try and sell them. Collectors have to start getting smart about selling costs, which have risen sharply in recent years.
I guess if you want to disregard the historical significance of the 's' cents from the late '60 and early '70's, these coins are not going to have much value to you. They are, however, made of bronze (95% Cu) so your remark about them being "really nothing but face value" can't really be true.
"Two things are infinite: human stupidity and the universe; and I'm not sure about the universe."
-Albert Einstein-
Mistakes are natural. But repeated mistakes without reflection are something else. That may be the “stupidity” he was referring to. In research, he admitted uncertainty openly. “If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?” This shows humility. Even a Nobel laureate accepted doubt. That humility makes the quote less cynical and more observational.
Carl! Carl! Carl!…good drinking game….a swig every time he said Carl!
My point is that it costs more to try and sell them for more than face value than they are worth. Think "selling costs".
If I get one in change, or a circ. common date wheat cent as well, it just gets spent immediately. (I actually did get a circ. 1945 wheat cent today and it will be spent.)
There most definitely is a noticeable and valuable doubled die for the 70-S.
https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1970-s-1c-lg-date-doubled-die-obv-rd/92939
The OP’s coin is not one of them though.
In college we played the first Led Zeppelin album until we scratched it and it began playing the same groove over and over. I can still hear that loop 56 years later.
My roommate fixed it by taping a NICKEL! to the tonearm. It ground through that problem like a snowplow.
Not to worry, I am on my third vinyl copy and second (remastered) CD, so I am not still living with that trashed acoustics. That darned skip, however, I still hear whenever I hear Communications Breakdown.
Agreed. 1970-s doubled die obverse FS-101 is a major variety and very expensive. Though, this one is normal
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More memories....
I recall that a light scratch, and it's accompanying skip, could be "repaired" by lightly resting a fingertip on the arm above the needle as it traveled past the scratch. I imagine that it bent the break in the vinyl back into place.
This thread brings back some great memories! Remember when the radio stations still used records and every once in a while the skip would come, and we'd all try to guess how long it would take until the D.J. would notice it?