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  • Coins4EliCoins4Eli Posts: 25 ✭✭
    edited June 30, 2024 9:40AM

    Welcome to the forum!
    The coin you posted is completely normal and is only worth one cent. :)

    Member of Early American Coppers (EAC), American Numismatic Association (ANA), and Missouri Numismatic Society (MNS). Specializing in early American copper by die variety.

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 23,946 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MLC said:
    That's way different answer than the last expert that said it was a double die first strike large date so forth

    It is safe to assume the "last expert" that told you it was a doubled die; first strike, and a Large Date is in fact,
    not an expert in numismatics. Perhaps he is an expert in other topics, just not coins.

    peacockcoins

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,482 ✭✭✭✭✭

    While growing up on the east coast an S cent was an exciting find.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 33,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MLC said:
    That's way different answer than the last expert that said it was a double die first strike large date so forth

    Large date is the more common version.

    If your expert said "first strike", I'd like to see credentials. It might be a good strike, it could be an early strike, but it would be very hard to tell.

    There is no major doubled die for that date. But I see no evidence of any doubling, not even machine doubling.

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,323 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And the "expert" offered to buy the coin for how much?

    All glory is fleeting.
  • dhikewhitneydhikewhitney Posts: 424 ✭✭✭

    @Coins4Eli said:
    Welcome to the forum!
    The coin you posted is completely normal and is only worth one cent. :)

    Maybe 2 cents

  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,235 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coins4Eli said:
    Welcome to the forum!
    The coin you posted is completely normal and is only worth one cent. :)

    Not really. The 'S' Lincolns made from 1968 through 1974 all command a premium.

    Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.-Albert Einstein

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 33,930 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 1, 2024 11:24AM

    @mr1931S said:

    @Coins4Eli said:
    Welcome to the forum!
    The coin you posted is completely normal and is only worth one cent. :)

    Not really. The 'S' Lincolns made from 1968 through 1974 all command a premium.

    Even damaged? How much are you paying?

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,418 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @mr1931S said:

    @Coins4Eli said:
    Welcome to the forum!
    The coin you posted is completely normal and is only worth one cent. :)

    Not really. The 'S' Lincolns made from 1968 through 1974 all command a premium.

    Even damaged. How much are you paying?

    I think it was very rude to refer to him as “damaged” just because he said the date commands a premium.

    😉

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,095 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @mr1931S said:

    @Coins4Eli said:
    Welcome to the forum!
    The coin you posted is completely normal and is only worth one cent. :)

    Not really. The 'S' Lincolns made from 1968 through 1974 all command a premium.

    Even damaged. How much are you paying?

    I think it was very rude to refer to him as “damaged” just because he said the date commands a premium.

    😉

    You might say it was harsche. :D

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,482 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 1, 2024 12:22PM

    Oh, now I see.

    He found a cent in a phonograph.

  • GoldminersGoldminers Posts: 3,924 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 1, 2024 12:28PM

    @OKbustchaser said:a
    Not unusual. A cent was often used to increase the weight of the needle in order to keep the record from skipping.

    For most LP record cartridges, the stylus (needle) recommended tracking force or "weight" on any decent turntable would be between 1.5-2 grams. Use of a cent (+/-2.5 grams) on top of an already counterweighted tonearm would smash it and do more damage to the LP or record than desired.

    Yes, more weight than specified will keep it from skipping, but probably will ruin the record or LP for any future audiophile.

    The cent is common and nothing special, but good record albums are very scarce items worthy of protecting.

    My multi-thousand-dollar album collection screamed in terror and begged me to post this.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,482 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Goldminers said:

    @OKbustchaser said:a
    Not unusual. A cent was often used to increase the weight of the needle in order to keep the record from skipping.

    For most LP record cartridges, the stylus (needle) recommended tracking force or "weight" on any decent turntable would be between 1.5-2 grams. Use of a cent (+/-2.5 grams) on top of an already counterweighted tonearm would smash it and do more damage to the LP or record than desired.

    Yes, more weight than specified will keep it from skipping, but probably will ruin the record or LP for any future audiophile.

    The cent is common and nothing special, but good record albums are very scarce items worthy of protecting.

    My multi-thousand-dollar album collection screamed in terror and begged me to post this.

    Ahh brings back memories, not all of them good.

    I don't think I ever did the penny trick, but I do recall that a warped record could bounce a light arm around and cause skipping on the record.

  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,235 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @mr1931S said:

    @Coins4Eli said:
    Welcome to the forum!
    The coin you posted is completely normal and is only worth one cent. :)

    Not really. The 'S' Lincolns made from 1968 through 1974 all command a premium.

    Even damaged? How much are you paying?

    If I were buyingthese, which I currently am not, I would be a buyer at about $.05-$.06 apiece or $2.50-$3.00 per roll.

    Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.-Albert Einstein

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 33,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mr1931S said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @mr1931S said:

    @Coins4Eli said:
    Welcome to the forum!
    The coin you posted is completely normal and is only worth one cent. :)

    Not really. The 'S' Lincolns made from 1968 through 1974 all command a premium.

    Even damaged? How much are you paying?

    If I were buyingthese, which I currently am not, I would be a buyer at about $.05-$.06 apiece or $2.50-$3.00 per roll.

    So, $0.

  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,235 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 'S' mint Lincolns 1968-74 do not show up in FR $25 boxes that much. I've got several rolls of them from going through about 20 boxes a few years ago.

    Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.-Albert Einstein

  • goodmoney4badmoneygoodmoney4badmoney Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You might consider looking at the value of what seems to be an antique record player OP, rather than the cent.

  • CregCreg Posts: 414 ✭✭✭✭

    @goodmoney4badmoney said:
    You might consider looking at the value of what seems to be an antique record player OP, rather than the cent.

    I’m curious about the manufacturer of the phonograph/record player/turntable as well.

  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,235 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2, 2024 2:10AM

    @mr1931S said:
    The 'S' mint Lincolns 1968-74 do not show up in FR $25 boxes that much. I've got several rolls of them from going through about 20 boxes a few years ago.

    A total of about 1000 rolls of cents from the bank (FR Bank of Minneapolis) checked by me for "what's out there." 167 's' pieces (mostly XF/AU grade, many with gobs of mint luster) dated 1968-74 found. 167/50,000=.00334 or 1/3 of 1% of the cents I checked were found to be late date (1968-74) 's' mint pieces. Rolled and saved.

    Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.-Albert Einstein

  • BikergeekBikergeek Posts: 408 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gonzer said:

    @OKbustchaser said:
    Not unusual. A cent was often used to increase the weight of the needle in order to keep the record from skipping.

    Well...we played 'Frampton Comes Alive' so many times we needed three Ike dollars and a coupla Kennedy's to keep it from skipping.

    Do you feel.... like we do do do do do do do do do do do

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  • sellitstoresellitstore Posts: 2,862 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How many times do we have to say that vinyl and coins don't mix? (flips or records)

    Collector and dealer in obsolete currency. Always buying all obsolete bank notes and scrip.
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,323 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Circulated "S" cents from the late 1960s or early 1970s are really nothing but face value. The so-called premium for them is far less than what it costs to try and sell them. Collectors have to start getting smart about selling costs, which have risen sharply in recent years.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 6,896 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,235 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @291fifth said:
    Circulated "S" cents from the late 1960s or early 1970s are really nothing but face value. The so-called premium for them is far less than what it costs to try and sell them. Collectors have to start getting smart about selling costs, which have risen sharply in recent years.

    I guess if you want to disregard the historical significance of the 's' cents from the late '60 and early '70's, these coins are not going to have much value to you. They are, however, made of bronze (95% Cu) so your remark about them being "really nothing but face value" can't really be true.

    Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.-Albert Einstein

  • Herb_THerb_T Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Carl! Carl! Carl!…good drinking game….a swig every time he said Carl!

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,323 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mr1931S said:

    @291fifth said:
    Circulated "S" cents from the late 1960s or early 1970s are really nothing but face value. The so-called premium for them is far less than what it costs to try and sell them. Collectors have to start getting smart about selling costs, which have risen sharply in recent years.

    I guess if you want to disregard the historical significance of the 's' cents from the late '60 and early '70's, these coins are not going to have much value to you. They are, however, made of bronze (95% Cu) so your remark about them being "really nothing but face value" can't really be true.

    My point is that it costs more to try and sell them for more than face value than they are worth. Think "selling costs".
    If I get one in change, or a circ. common date wheat cent as well, it just gets spent immediately. (I actually did get a circ. 1945 wheat cent today and it will be spent.)

    All glory is fleeting.
  • david3142david3142 Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @MLC said:
    That's way different answer than the last expert that said it was a double die first strike large date so forth

    Large date is the more common version.

    If your expert said "first strike", I'd like to see credentials. It might be a good strike, it could be an early strike, but it would be very hard to tell.

    There is no major doubled die for that date. But I see no evidence of any doubling, not even machine doubling.

    There most definitely is a noticeable and valuable doubled die for the 70-S.

    https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1970-s-1c-lg-date-doubled-die-obv-rd/92939

    The OP’s coin is not one of them though.

  • RonsandersonRonsanderson Posts: 124 ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 4, 2024 4:16AM

    @Goldminers said:

    @OKbustchaser said:a
    Not unusual. A cent was often used to increase the weight of the needle in order to keep the record from skipping.

    For most LP record cartridges, the stylus (needle) recommended tracking force or "weight" on any decent turntable would be between 1.5-2 grams. Use of a cent (+/-2.5 grams) on top of an already counterweighted tonearm would smash it and do more damage to the LP or record than desired.

    Yes, more weight than specified will keep it from skipping, but probably will ruin the record or LP for any future audiophile.

    The cent is common and nothing special, but good record albums are very scarce items worthy of protecting.

    My multi-thousand-dollar album collection screamed in terror and begged me to post this.

    In college we played the first Led Zeppelin album until we scratched it and it began playing the same groove over and over. I can still hear that loop 56 years later.

    My roommate fixed it by taping a NICKEL! to the tonearm. It ground through that problem like a snowplow.

    Not to worry, I am on my third vinyl copy and second (remastered) CD, so I am not still living with that trashed acoustics. That darned skip, however, I still hear whenever I hear Communications Breakdown.

  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,262 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @david3142 said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @MLC said:
    That's way different answer than the last expert that said it was a double die first strike large date so forth

    Large date is the more common version.

    If your expert said "first strike", I'd like to see credentials. It might be a good strike, it could be an early strike, but it would be very hard to tell.

    There is no major doubled die for that date. But I see no evidence of any doubling, not even machine doubling.

    There most definitely is a noticeable and valuable doubled die for the 70-S.

    https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1970-s-1c-lg-date-doubled-die-obv-rd/92939

    The OP’s coin is not one of them though.

    Agreed. 1970-s doubled die obverse FS-101 is a major variety and very expensive. Though, this one is normal

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,482 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 3, 2024 6:10PM

    @Ronsanderson said:
    In college we played the first Led Zeppelin album until we scratched it and it began playing the same groove over and over. I can still here that loop 56 years later.

    My roommate fixed it by taping a NICKEL! to the tonearm. It ground through that problem like a snowplow.

    More memories....

    I recall that a light scratch, and it's accompanying skip, could be "repaired" by lightly resting a fingertip on the arm above the needle as it traveled past the scratch. I imagine that it bent the break in the vinyl back into place.

  • jedmjedm Posts: 3,022 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This thread brings back some great memories! Remember when the radio stations still used records and every once in a while the skip would come, and we'd all try to guess how long it would take until the D.J. would notice it?

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