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Double Dies or Machine Doubling?

Hello All, these were tough for me to diagnose even after staring at the multiple classes from Wexler’s Die Varieties https://doubleddie.com/58222.html Looks like Class II to me !






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    hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't see anything going on there.

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    MarkKelleyMarkKelley Posts: 2,087 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see no hub doubling.

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    TomBTomB Posts: 23,046 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It appears you are looking at lots of proof coins and the images have terrible reflections and a fairly decent amount of pixelation, which makes any analysis on our part dicey. The below might help you-

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    jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 4,102 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see no doubling of any sort. If you looking for a different answer, you're going to need to post different pictures.

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    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 12,507 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see very minor machine doubling exacerbated by overly high magnification, and shadows and reflections from improper lighting, but zero hub doubling of any kind.

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,840 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 22, 2024 1:13PM

    The first one is classic machine doubling with the extra outline looking like a flat shelf. The others are so minor that I can't see anything.

    To me, if you need to 10x glass to see the doubled die, it doesn't amount to much to me. Others can pay a premium for that, but I wouldn't do it.

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 32,954 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Everything looks normal (whatever normal is)

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    GreenstangGreenstang Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Terminology correction
    The correct term is “Doubled Die”

    From what I see you have worthless Machine Doubling, not a DD.
    If you have to increase the size by more than 5X, it will not be recognized by any of the leading graders.

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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,771 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No doubling, just lighting artifacts in your pictures.

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    RobertScotLoverRobertScotLover Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As EVERYONE has already said here zero DD and zero machine doubling, how ever machine doubling is worthless so what you want is DD's and one has to be able to actually see it

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    Thanks everyone, I figured but thought I’d make sure especially because they were on proof sets and yea it was extremely difficult to get a good picture!

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