eBay 1928 [P] Peace Dollar - obvious replica but seller disagrees and so does eBay

dcarr · May 22, 2024 1:02PM

I was looking at recent eBay prices realized for 1928 [P] Peace Dollars.

I saw this one that sold for $250 and I sent a message to the seller that it was a poor fake and probably silver plated at best:
https://ebay.com/itm/256487174434

I also reported it to eBay as a violation of listing policies (replica coins not disclosed as such).

The seller replied with this message:

Coin is not counterfeit, it's not silver plated, it's been cleaned just like the description stated, you can return the coin for a refund.

I am not the one who bought it, of course.

eBay sent this automated reply:

Hello specie-man,
Thanks again for reporting the listing(s) you found.

What happened:
We looked into your report and didn’t find the listing to be in violation of our policy. This determination was made using automation or artificial intelligence.

Davidk7 · May 22, 2024 1:19PM

Definitely a counterfeit. Grainy surfaces give it away.

TomB · May 22, 2024 1:41PM

Ebay appears to find nothing to be a counterfeit these days. I know, I have reported many and always receive the same response of they see nothing wrong with the listing.

Connecticoin · May 22, 2024 2:16PM

So they use AI bots to determine authenticity? Idiotic. And those AI generated auction descriptions are a joke.

CaptHenway · May 22, 2024 2:21PM

I reported it anyways. Sometimes they are impressed by the number of reports.

JimTyler · May 22, 2024 2:23PM

You can’t fix stupid

JBK · May 22, 2024 2:46PM

Glen2022 · May 22, 2024 2:48PM

It's not in eBay's best interests to take listings down since if it does so, it will be losing it's percentage of the sale. Certainly, a conflict of interest.

Davidk7 mentions grainy services. What you think about this one? Real or fake?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/116182960955

291fifth · May 22, 2024 2:54PM

AI never makes mistakes.

braddick · May 22, 2024 3:01PM

@Glen2022 said:
It's not in eBay's best interests to take listings down since if it does so, it will be losing it's percentage of the sale. Certainly, a conflict of interest.

Davidk7 mentions grainy services. What you think about this one? Real or fake?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/116182960955

Genuine.

MrScience · May 22, 2024 3:13PM

ugh - did Liberty get punched in the nose?

dcarr · May 22, 2024 3:17PM

@Glen2022 said:
It's not in eBay's best interests to take listings down since if it does so, it will be losing it's percentage of the sale. Certainly, a conflict of interest.

Davidk7 mentions grainy services. What you think about this one? Real or fake?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/116182960955

It looks genuine, but with some environmental degradation (possibly corrosion which was partially removed by cleaning).

1madman · May 22, 2024 4:12PM

I reported a fake gold buffalo in a fake pcgs holder the other day, and I actually had a customer service rep look at the auction and still deny it was a problem. It’s tiring leading the blind on that website. Here’s their response:

“What happened:
We looked into your report and didn’t find the listing to be in violation of our policy. This determination was made by a customer service agent.

If you reported content that isn’t listed below, we’ll send a separate email once we’ve made a decision.

Your reference ID:
2-177827003364

Here are the listings you reported that are included in this decision:
Item: 387003090761 2018 $50 Gold Buffalo PCGS MS70 First Strike 1 oz .999 - First Day Issue

Thank you for being part of the eBay community.
Thanks,
eBay”

CaptHenway · May 22, 2024 4:41PM

Flagrantly counterfeit.

MsMorrisine · May 22, 2024 5:41PM

@1madman said:
I reported a fake gold buffalo in a fake pcgs holder the other day, and I actually had a customer service rep look at the auction and still deny it was a problem. It’s tiring leading the blind on that website. Here’s their response:

“What happened:
We looked into your report and didn’t find the listing to be in violation of our policy. This determination was made by a customer service agent.

If you reported content that isn’t listed below, we’ll send a separate email once we’ve made a decision.

Your reference ID:
2-177827003364

Here are the listings you reported that are included in this decision:
Item: 387003090761 2018 $50 Gold Buffalo PCGS MS70 First Strike 1 oz .999 - First Day Issue

Thank you for being part of the eBay community.
Thanks,
eBay”

must have been poofed

look like this one?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/387008662328

1madman · May 22, 2024 5:59PM

@MsMorrisine said:

@1madman said:
I reported a fake gold buffalo in a fake pcgs holder the other day, and I actually had a customer service rep look at the auction and still deny it was a problem. It’s tiring leading the blind on that website. Here’s their response:

“What happened:
We looked into your report and didn’t find the listing to be in violation of our policy. This determination was made by a customer service agent.

If you reported content that isn’t listed below, we’ll send a separate email once we’ve made a decision.

Your reference ID:
2-177827003364

Here are the listings you reported that are included in this decision:
Item: 387003090761 2018 $50 Gold Buffalo PCGS MS70 First Strike 1 oz .999 - First Day Issue

Thank you for being part of the eBay community.
Thanks,
eBay”

must have been poofed

look like this one?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/387008662328

Yes very similar to the one you listed. This is really becoming an issue when AI has no clue how to operate, and living breathing human beings are embracing this unethical fraudulent behavior by their seller base. Ebay is becoming the Wild West with their employees/policies.

crazyhounddog · May 22, 2024 6:05PM

That’s such a fake it’s ridiculous! It’s laughable 🤪

logger7 · May 22, 2024 7:09PM

They seem to be running on auto-pilot these days, did some investment firm take them over and cut back on quality control personnel? I reported an ebay issue to the state attorney general and they just responded with a formulaic letter.

TxCollector · May 23, 2024 4:20AM

I like eBay as another avenue to find what I'm looking for but I think that trying to do anything about the fakes on there is a waste of time these days. Once eBay starts caring then maybe I will but until then its caveat emptor more than ever.