2000 Bowman Chrome, Tom Brady, ROY Promotion Card

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Recently acquired the above in a trade for an unopened foil pack of 2000 Bowman Chrome football cards

The ROY card looks really good.
Sending into PSA for grading
Never new they existed.

I'm new here at PSA, but have been collecting sports cards for nearly 40 years.
This is my second pos on the Forum so bear with me .. as I have a tendency to be a PITA and will ask lots of questions ..lololol

QUESTION 1, Multi Part A-F ..... hehehehehe

1A) Any idea why only about 50 of such cards are listed in PSA Price Guide.?

1B) Are they scarce?

1C) How were these sold and where?

1D) Are they really going up in value that quickly compared to other Brady cards?

1E ) Any means to get a rough idea of the grade here at PSA without actual grading ( by members, etc. opinions, etc )

1F) Do they have a Buy / Sell area at PSA similar to eBay?

Thanks in Advance
Fred ( Pawtucket, RI )

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  • craig44
    craig44 Posts: 13,182 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    the bowman ROY is a very rare parallel of the bowman rookie. only 250 were produced. they were pack inserted as a contest card (that brady did not win) I follow the Brady market fairly closely, and I don't think they are increasing any faster than any other rare brady rookie. in fact, there has been a pretty significant price correction from pandemic prices. it is impossible to grade cards from a photo/scan. we could give an idea, but that would be it.

    before you submit to PSA, make sure you have an authentic copy. this is a card that is frequently counterfeited.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • FredJRI
    FredJRI Posts: 489 ✭✭✭
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    Craig44 thanks for your valuable input.

    How can I tell if it is a counterfeit card, any give aways...like he Gretsky ?

    How can I get an idea if its counterfeited and approximate grade +/- 2 lololol?

    Any help is greatly appreciated.

    Wish I would have joined here 35-40 years ago but didn't have the time due to work.

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    Fred

    I just joined about 3 days ago and learning the site and all the features..

  • FredJRI
    FredJRI Posts: 489 ✭✭✭
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    Made an even trade for a 2000 Bowman Chrome NFL foil pack of 3 cards - Unopened on eBay

    Hope it's real !! hehehehehehehehe

  • FredJRI
    FredJRI Posts: 489 ✭✭✭
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    I did a fairly close comparison against my 2000 Bowman Rookie card #236, Gem Mt 10 (these are not Chrome, just Bowman) and the only difference I can detect on the front is that the coloring is not as sharp (brightness) back is completely different, Official rues on Promo vs. Stats on #236 no color on Promo card back .. all black.

  • craig44
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    @FredJRI said:
    Craig44 thanks for your valuable input.

    How can I tell if it is a counterfeit card, any give aways...like he Gretsky ?

    How can I get an idea if its counterfeited and approximate grade +/- 2 lololol?

    Any help is greatly appreciated.

    Wish I would have joined here 35-40 years ago but didn't have the time due to work.

    ******I LOVE this place.******

    Fred

    I just joined about 3 days ago and learning the site and all the features..

    get a common 2000 bowman roy card and compare it very closely with your brady roy. the reason I would compare it with a common is because there is very little chance that a common would have been counterfeited so you can be confident you are comparing with a legitimate card.

    then, very closely compare it. look at the gloss, the foil portions, the cardboard stock itself, the color and the clarity. counterfeits will most likely not get everything right.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • FredJRI
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    Good idea craig44 ..just bought this for ~$2

    2000 Bowman Roy Oswalt RC Houston Astros #395
    $0.99
    Quantity 1

    Delivery
    Estimated delivery: May 15 – May 20Est. delivery: May 15 – May 20
    Standard Shipping
    $0.75

  • junkwaxgems
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    @FredJRI said:
    Good idea craig44 ..just bought this for ~$2

    2000 Bowman Roy Oswalt RC Houston Astros #395
    $0.99
    Quantity 1

    Delivery
    Estimated delivery: May 15 – May 20Est. delivery: May 15 – May 20
    Standard Shipping
    $0.75

    What does this card have to do with the 2000 bowman football ROY promotion parallels?

    fka jacksoncoupage, comc.com: junkwaxgems, ebay: junkwaxgems
  • FredJRI
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    Trying to compare the size ,finish, color, printin, etc. against a possible fake Brady 2000 Bowman Promotion Rookie card, (only 250 were made )

  • DBesse27
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    @FredJRI said:
    Trying to compare the size ,finish, color, printin, etc. against a possible fake Brady 2000 Bowman Promotion Rookie card, (only 250 were made )

    Not sure you’ll be comparing apples to apples.

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  • FredJRI
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    It's a start unless someone knows the counterfeit variances ( like the 79 Gretzky, etc.. )

  • HerbieH
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    Not sure if I misread but I am not aware of a “chrome” version of the 2000 Bowman RoY Promotion Brady rookie. I thought it was only available in “regular” Bowman. In 2000 Bowman Chrome, Brady has a base and refractor version.

  • Ahmanfan
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    @FredJRI said:
    Good idea craig44 ..just bought this for ~$2

    2000 Bowman Roy Oswalt RC Houston Astros #395
    $0.99
    Quantity 1

    Delivery
    Estimated delivery: May 15 – May 20Est. delivery: May 15 – May 20
    Standard Shipping
    $0.75

    This is a golden piece of unintentional comedy. The guy buys a Roy Oslwalt card to compare to a ROY football parallel 😂

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  • DBesse27
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    @Ahmanfan said:

    @FredJRI said:
    Good idea craig44 ..just bought this for ~$2

    2000 Bowman Roy Oswalt RC Houston Astros #395
    $0.99
    Quantity 1

    Delivery
    Estimated delivery: May 15 – May 20Est. delivery: May 15 – May 20
    Standard Shipping
    $0.75

    This is a golden piece of unintentional comedy. The guy buys a Roy Oslwalt card to compare to a ROY football parallel 😂

    And when that’s gently pointed out, he stands by the strategy.

    Yaz Master Set
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  • FredJRI
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    @DBesse27 said:

    @Ahmanfan said:

    @FredJRI said:
    Good idea craig44 ..just bought this for ~$2

    2000 Bowman Roy Oswalt RC Houston Astros #395
    $0.99
    Quantity 1

    Delivery
    Estimated delivery: May 15 – May 20Est. delivery: May 15 – May 20
    Standard Shipping
    $0.75

    This is a golden piece of unintentional comedy. The guy buys a Roy Oslwalt card to compare to a ROY football parallel 😂

    And when that’s gently pointed out, he stands by the strategy.

    You got better idea wise nMr.. , K I A ???

  • FredJRI
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    @junkwaxgems said:

    @FredJRI said:
    Good idea craig44 ..just bought this for ~$2

    2000 Bowman Roy Oswalt RC Houston Astros #395
    $0.99
    Quantity 1

    Delivery
    Estimated delivery: May 15 – May 20Est. delivery: May 15 – May 20
    Standard Shipping
    $0.75


    What does this card have to do with the 2000 bowman football ROY promotion parallels?


    It's a card with a picture made by the same Mfg!!

  • PatriotTrading
    PatriotTrading Posts: 428 ✭✭✭
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    There is a 2000 Bowman Rookie of the Year Promotion Rob Morris for $7 shipped. The odds that yours is real is very low considering what you traded for it. The Bowman Chrome pack might be worth $300? A legit Tom Brady is probably a couple thousand.

  • FredJRI
    FredJRI Posts: 489 ✭✭✭
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    You may new correct PT ..time will tell.
    If it is fake, not the end of the world I'm out about $300.
    What happened was I sold a 2000 Bowman Chrome foil pack to a guy in Anchorage, AK. about a month ago.
    I had it in a plastic clear bag from about 5 years ago.
    When he got it ...he texted me back saying there were 3 foil packs in the plastic bag.
    I didn't check and they are very thin with only 3 cards in each pack.
    For his honesty, I said keep one of the extras and send one back.
    WE were both happy.
    When he sent me one back, I listed it on eBay for about $250.
    This guy from Il asked if I was willing to trade it for the 2000 Bowman ROY Promotion?
    (I didn't even know that the ROY existed)
    I said 'yes' and we exchanged. 2000 Bowman Chrome for Bowman ROY Promotion.
    I know it sounds too good to be true .. but you never know !!! lololol
    I'll eventually find out.

    Thans,

    Fred

  • DBesse27
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    @FredJRI said:

    @DBesse27 said:

    @Ahmanfan said:

    @FredJRI said:
    Good idea craig44 ..just bought this for ~$2

    2000 Bowman Roy Oswalt RC Houston Astros #395
    $0.99
    Quantity 1

    Delivery
    Estimated delivery: May 15 – May 20Est. delivery: May 15 – May 20
    Standard Shipping
    $0.75

    This is a golden piece of unintentional comedy. The guy buys a Roy Oslwalt card to compare to a ROY football parallel 😂

    And when that’s gently pointed out, he stands by the strategy.

    You got better idea wise nMr.. , K I A ???

    Yes, order a ROY promotion card to do the comparison. If you’re not comparing cards from the same set, what’s the point? “lololololol”

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  • FredJRI
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    @DBesse27 said:

    @FredJRI said:

    @DBesse27 said:

    @Ahmanfan said:

    @FredJRI said:
    Good idea craig44 ..just bought this for ~$2

    2000 Bowman Roy Oswalt RC Houston Astros #395
    $0.99
    Quantity 1

    Delivery
    Estimated delivery: May 15 – May 20Est. delivery: May 15 – May 20
    Standard Shipping
    $0.75

    This is a golden piece of unintentional comedy. The guy buys a Roy Oslwalt card to compare to a ROY football parallel 😂

    And when that’s gently pointed out, he stands by the strategy.

    You got better idea wise nMr.. , K I A ???

    Yes, order a ROY promotion card to do the comparison. If you’re not comparing cards from the same set, what’s the point? “lololololol”

    Are you short a few lumens..???
    It's a ROY Baseball from the same Mfg......whol cares if it's a baseball or football ..only a picture. hehehehe

  • DBesse27
    DBesse27 Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @FredJRI said:

    @DBesse27 said:

    @FredJRI said:

    @DBesse27 said:

    @Ahmanfan said:

    @FredJRI said:
    Good idea craig44 ..just bought this for ~$2

    2000 Bowman Roy Oswalt RC Houston Astros #395
    $0.99
    Quantity 1

    Delivery
    Estimated delivery: May 15 – May 20Est. delivery: May 15 – May 20
    Standard Shipping
    $0.75

    This is a golden piece of unintentional comedy. The guy buys a Roy Oslwalt card to compare to a ROY football parallel 😂

    And when that’s gently pointed out, he stands by the strategy.

    You got better idea wise nMr.. , K I A ???

    Yes, order a ROY promotion card to do the comparison. If you’re not comparing cards from the same set, what’s the point? “lololololol”

    Are you short a few lumens..???
    It's a ROY Baseball from the same Mfg......whol cares if it's a baseball or football ..only a picture. hehehehe

    Oswalt’s first name is “Roy”. There’s nothing in the card description you posted that indicates it’s a “ROY” redemption, if there even was such a thing. But sure, I’m the stupid one here, and your strategy is brilliant.

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  • bgr
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    This reminds me of when Dpoy Obichenko was defensive player of the year.

  • ndleo
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    Im not quite sure what this post is about but I think DBesse27 is ahead

    Mike
  • FredJRI
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  • FredJRI
    FredJRI Posts: 489 ✭✭✭
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    LOLOLOL

  • FredJRI
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  • FredJRI
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    Everybody happy.lololol

  • FredJRI
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    @ndleo said:
    Im not quite sure what this post is about but I think DBesse27 is ahead

    Didn't know this was a race:)

    That ROY cost me $5 ,more.

  • dan89
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    All this for a guaranteed fake card? There is absolutely zero possibility it is real.

  • FredJRI
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    @dan89 said:
    All this for a guaranteed fake card? There is absolutely zero possibility it is real.

    Why ?

  • FredJRI
    FredJRI Posts: 489 ✭✭✭
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    @dan89 said:
    All this for a guaranteed fake card? There is absolutely zero possibility it is real.

    Why ?

  • FredJRI
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    @FredJRI said:

    @dan89 said:
    All this for a guaranteed fake card? There is absolutely zero possibility it is real.

    Why ?

    Not jealous ihope ?
    Let you know when it comes back from PSA grading:)

  • FredJRI
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  • pdoidoi
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    @FredJRI said:

    @ndleo said:
    Im not quite sure what this post is about but I think DBesse27 is ahead

    Didn't know this was a race:)

    That ROY cost me $5 ,more.

  • FredJRI
    FredJRI Posts: 489 ✭✭✭
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    Fake of No fake???

  • pdoidoi
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    Have you shown the back side of the card, If not can you show the back of the card.

  • lahmejoon
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    Wouldn't this be worth grading/authenticating in any case? I'd just send it in. At least you would know for certain if it's real or fake. If real, it's probably fairly valuable and worth the grading fee.

  • RufussCkingston
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    Also, what the hell is a 3card pack of 2000 Bowman Chrome Football, a pack should have 4 cards..... I begining to sense a strong case of Shenanigans!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbtByiZrKqY

  • bgr
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    This thread is becoming my guilty pleasure.

  • FredJRI
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    @RufussCkingston said:
    Also, what the hell is a 3card pack of 2000 Bowman Chrome Football, a pack should have 4 cards..... I begining to sense a strong case of Shenanigans!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbtByiZrKqY

    WGAS, haven't opened one in 4-5 years. 3 or 4 I don't; recall. It's a thin pack with only a few. sheesh...
    Are you accusing me of being dishonest ???????
    UR a real PITA.....no ? lolololol

  • pdoidoi
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    @pdoidoi said:
    Have you shown the back side of the card, If not can you show the back of the card.

  • Ahmanfan
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    The card pictured from the eBay listing is certainly real.

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  • FredJRI
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    I'll post a picture of mi card later.

    Have issues taking picture on cell and transferring to PC so I can post.

  • burghman
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    You can post right from your phone assuming it’s a smart phone - “choose files” takes you right to your phone’s photos.

    Jim

  • FredJRI
    FredJRI Posts: 489 ✭✭✭
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    Android Samsung, can post o eBay, but have issues with PSA.
    Grew up in the 'slide rule' era sort of IT challenged :)
    I'll get them here eventually. the boys from Missouri need more misery.

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

  • DBesse27
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    Laugh out loud out loud out loud out loud out loud out loud.

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  • sayheywyo
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    Or.... laugh out laugh out laugh out laugh out laugh out laugh out loud out loud......

    touches on all four corners and chipping on top........ PSA 6

  • bgr
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    I’m not going to say that I’m not 100% invested in the outcome here. Because that would be a lie.

  • FredJRI
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    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

    Don't look and you won't 'C' heheheheehehheehehe

  • FredJRI
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    @Ahmanfan said:
    The card pictured from the eBay listing is certainly real.

    A very astute observation, lololololololol