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2000 Bowman Chrome, Tom Brady, ROY Promotion Card

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  • FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 450 ✭✭✭

  • FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 450 ✭✭✭

    Oh no. another from eBay. lolololololololo

  • FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 450 ✭✭✭

  • FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 450 ✭✭✭

  • FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 450 ✭✭✭

  • FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 450 ✭✭✭

  • FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 450 ✭✭✭

    Oh sorry ,they are from eBay .lolololololololollolol

  • FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 450 ✭✭✭

  • FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 450 ✭✭✭

    That is eBay

    That is NOT

  • DBesse27DBesse27 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Now I’m thoroughly confused. I genuinely wish I could help you with your original question.

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  • bgrbgr Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hard to estimate grade. Impossible with poor images.

    I’m also confused. If you have another one why don’t you compare it to that?

  • FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 450 ✭✭✭

    One is a GR. 10, 2000 Bowman RC .. the other is the 2000 Bowman Promotion going for grading.
    Can only compare that against the 2000 Bowman Prom on eBay

    I'm IT challenged when it comes to taking photo's.
    Have to take photos with my Samsung A53, 5G then send to PC, and post from there to PSA a real PITA.
    Someday I'll have my granddaughter show me or read instructions ..lololol

  • RufussCkingstonRufussCkingston Posts: 1,649 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FredJRI said:

    I'm IT challenged when it comes to taking photo's.
    Have to take photos with my Samsung A53, 5G then send to PC, and post from there to PSA a real PITA.
    Someday I'll have my granddaughter show me or read instructions ..lololol

    That's not the problem, it's the lighting, the wood background, and the fact that you still have it inside a sleeve inside a toploader. Take a pic of the "naked" card with good lighting and a white or black background.

    I'm going to assume that the graded "10" Brady is fake since it is a random non-legitimate grading company. Is that even a foil logo in the top right corner, or just gold ink?

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,049 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 17, 2024 8:04PM

    If you plan on grading the Bowman ROY promo rookie with PSA you might as well crack the base Bowman and sub that one too. If the base RC is real then you'd get a better ROI having it in a PSA slab than that Mint Grading one even at a lower grade, no knowledgeable collector would ever consider paying Gem Mint prices for it while its in that slab. If either or both cards come back as fake, IIRC it would be labeled as N9 and you wouldn't be charged for the grading fees.

  • RufussCkingstonRufussCkingston Posts: 1,649 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erikthredd said:
    If either or both cards come back as fake, IIRC it would be labeled as N9 and you wouldn't be charged for the grading fees.

    That would be WRONG.....

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,049 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 17, 2024 8:57PM

    @RufussCkingston said:

    @erikthredd said:
    If either or both cards come back as fake, IIRC it would be labeled as N9 and you wouldn't be charged for the grading fees.

    That would be WRONG.....

    I just checked PSA's grading standards and I must have had N9 confused with N4. That being said, the grading fees for those two Brady cards wouldn't be that expensive at all, if Fred really believes they're real then I'd say just sub them at a lower level and deal with an upcharge if it happens.

  • FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 450 ✭✭✭

    @RufussCkingston said:

    @FredJRI said:

    That's not the problem, it's the lighting, the wood background, and the fact that you still have it inside a sleeve inside a toploader. Take a pic of the "naked" card with good lighting and a white or black background.

    I'm going to assume that the graded "10" Brady is fake since it is a random non-legitimate grading company. Is that even a foil logo in the top right corner, or just gold ink?

    NO IT's NOT a FAKE ...you're from Missouri .. right ? lolololol

  • FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 450 ✭✭✭

    @erikthredd said:
    If you plan on grading the Bowman ROY promo rookie with PSA you might as well crack the base Bowman and sub that one too. If the base RC is real then you'd get a better ROI having it in a PSA slab than that Mint Grading one even at a lower grade, no knowledgeable collector would ever consider paying Gem Mint prices for it while its in that slab. If either or both cards come back as fake, IIRC it would be labeled as N9 and you wouldn't be charged for the grading fees.

    Good point, may just do that...not 100% sure about the RC.

  • FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 450 ✭✭✭

    I just may try BGC or another outfit. Just sent a Gretzky RC and Jordan RC in they came both came back an 8.

  • FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 450 ✭✭✭

    that was a $ + $

  • FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 450 ✭✭✭

  • FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 450 ✭✭✭

  • FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 450 ✭✭✭

  • FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 450 ✭✭✭

  • FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 450 ✭✭✭

    @RufussCkingston said:

    @FredJRI said:

    I'm IT challenged when it comes to taking photo's.
    Have to take photos with my Samsung A53, 5G then send to PC, and post from there to PSA a real PITA.
    Someday I'll have my granddaughter show me or read instructions ..lololol

    That's not the problem, take a pic of the "naked" card with good lighting and a white or black background.

    No that would be like braking in a virgin !! Ah, it is 24 years old. lolololol

  • GroceryRackPackGroceryRackPack Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DBesse27 said:
    Now I’m thoroughly confused. I genuinely wish I could help you with your original question.

    hey DBesse27...
    Trust Me....You're not Dazed & Confused...

    I'm gonna play nice...
    :)B)

  • bgrbgr Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good luck with the grade. Look forward to seeing the results.

  • FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 450 ✭✭✭

    yep

  • gorilla glue 4gorilla glue 4 Posts: 148 ✭✭✭✭

    Guess we'll never know 😂

    How much did it sale for is one of the funniest and most ignorant things I've ever heard.

  • PatriotTradingPatriotTrading Posts: 352 ✭✭✭

    Did he try selling it to someone on here? The dude PM'd me directly seemingly fishing for a buyer. The final red flag was the " just got back a Jordan and Gretzky that graded 8" . It always gets me the in the day an age of smart phones with higher resolutions, the guy with the greatest find has a flip phone 3mp camera.

  • pdoidoipdoidoi Posts: 668 ✭✭✭✭

    I thought he might be trying to get get a record number of posts I asked him if he was getting paid per post. He just started and he ended up with 167 in no time at all.

  • ElMagoStrikeZoneElMagoStrikeZone Posts: 546 ✭✭✭

    @bgr said:
    There's now a FredJRI sized hole in my heart.

    The honeymoon was fun.

    Enjoy the go.

  • 82FootballWaxMemorys82FootballWaxMemorys Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PatriotTrading said:
    Did he try selling it to someone on here? The dude PM'd me directly seemingly fishing for a buyer. The final red flag was the " just got back a Jordan and Gretzky that graded 8" . It always gets me the in the day an age of smart phones with higher resolutions, the guy with the greatest find has a flip phone 3mp camera.

    The famous/infamous Loch Ness Monster Pic was in higher resolution than those Brady's...

    I'm sure the dude will be or already is back with another alias and another angle

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  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,345 ✭✭✭✭✭

    boy, that was a weird couple of weeks with "fred" around. I tried to be helpful at first thinking he was just an older guy with some questions, but I bowed out once things got weird.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • bgrbgr Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭✭✭

    BBCE just announced they are hiring a Social Media Specialist so maybe the timing was good.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,345 ✭✭✭✭✭

    lololololololol

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • pdoidoipdoidoi Posts: 668 ✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:
    boy, that was a weird couple of weeks with "fred" around. I tried to be helpful at first thinking he was just an older guy with some questions, but I bowed out once things got weird.

    I think maybe it was just him that was weird. Something was not just right with him.

  • junkwaxgemsjunkwaxgems Posts: 253 ✭✭✭

    @pdoidoi said:

    @craig44 said:
    boy, that was a weird couple of weeks with "fred" around. I tried to be helpful at first thinking he was just an older guy with some questions, but I bowed out once things got weird.

    I think maybe it was just him that was weird. Something was not just right with him.

    This was an obvious troll account, likely some previously banned shit-stirrer, I was abit surprised so many people engaged with him.

    And that Brady looked truly awful. I wouldn't be surprised if he was messaging members here to try to sell it.

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  • 82FootballWaxMemorys82FootballWaxMemorys Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @junkwaxgems said:

    @pdoidoi said:

    @craig44 said:
    boy, that was a weird couple of weeks with "fred" around. I tried to be helpful at first thinking he was just an older guy with some questions, but I bowed out once things got weird.

    I think maybe it was just him that was weird. Something was not just right with him.

    This was an obvious troll account, likely some previously banned shit-stirrer, I was abit surprised so many people engaged with him.

    and they will again with the next troll account

    It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,677 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @82FootballWaxMemorys said:

    @junkwaxgems said:

    @pdoidoi said:

    @craig44 said:
    boy, that was a weird couple of weeks with "fred" around. I tried to be helpful at first thinking he was just an older guy with some questions, but I bowed out once things got weird.

    I think maybe it was just him that was weird. Something was not just right with him.

    This was an obvious troll account, likely some previously banned shit-stirrer, I was abit surprised so many people engaged with him.

    and they will again with the next troll account

    And you were correct! They even posted to their own thread with the new alt.

  • PatriotTradingPatriotTrading Posts: 352 ✭✭✭

    Look man, if you have the cards you do, good for you and best of luck on the grades. But nobody is going to buy anything from you on here. If your honestly have these and want to sell, post them up on eBay. It's better for all parties with eBay's Authenticity Program that get involved with you as a seller based on your history.

  • ElMagoStrikeZoneElMagoStrikeZone Posts: 546 ✭✭✭

    @PatriotTrading said:

    Look man, if you have the cards you do, good for you and best of luck on the grades. But nobody is going to buy anything from you on here. If your honestly have these and want to sell, post them up on eBay. It's better for all parties with eBay's Authenticity Program that get involved with you as a seller based on your history.

    I miss the old days when the renegades were clever and humorous, although they were locked in the basement.

    Enjoy the go.

  • bgrbgr Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A good test of the hypothesis that everyone has something to offer. Informally of course.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,345 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "fred" is back. oh boy...

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • bgrbgr Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @IRJDERF said:
    WTF are you talking about?
    Care to come out of the closet and talk like a man.

    Back off the IL and already raking!

  • bgrbgr Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well. In honesty ignorance is my specialty.

  • DBesse27DBesse27 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @IRJDERF said:

    @PatriotTrading said:
    Did he try selling it to someone on here? The dude PM'd me directly seemingly fishing for a buyer. The final red flag was the " just got back a Jordan and Gretzky that graded 8" . It always gets me the in the day an age of smart phones with higher resolutions, the guy with the greatest find has a flip phone 3mp camera.

    Heyc

    If you had half a brain, you'd know what $ + $ was!! ..on the Jordan and Gretzky RC I just got back. lololololol

    Also, if you could read and comprehend, you'd clearly know I never said I was nor that I intended to sell anything especially here. I did mention that I had a stamp album and that I may eventually sell a few stamps. ( not here specifically )
    Your obviously mot the brightest bulb on the chain.

    Oh, and thanks for the arm welcomes hehehehehe

    *you’re
    *not
    *warm

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