Take a look at this 1937d 3 legged buffalo on ebay, now at $310 and 20 bids

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BUFFNIXX
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Take a look at this 1937d 3 legged buffalo nickel on ebay ( auction number 135040214368 )
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  • OnWithTheHunt
    OnWithTheHunt Posts: 1,316 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Fake all day. Looks like designer initial is missing too.

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  • MFeld
    MFeld Posts: 17,135 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Please include links when you start such threads. If you don’t know how, learn how - you’ll be glad that you did.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • braddick
    braddick Posts: 25,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @MFeld said:
    Please include links when you start such threads. If you don’t know how, learn how - you’ll be glad that you did.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/135040214368

  • lkenefic
    lkenefic Posts: 9,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Wow... bid up to $331 so far.

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  • Vetter
    Vetter Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Someone is going to be very upset.

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  • Goldbully
    Goldbully Posts: 18,558 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    For reference..................



    45

    40

    35

  • Slade01
    Slade01 Posts: 294 ✭✭✭
    edited May 4, 2024 9:45AM
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    Reported and advised that with the price going up, it may reach a level where EBay may be knowingly assisting in felony fraud following my warning.

    Just playing with Photoshop to look at a few specific items, it really appears that it must be a cast fake, the font in the date numbers is all wrong and too obvious with the 37. And James Earle Fraser would be disappointed by being left out, which almost always remains on even G-VG coins and is quite apparent.

  • UncleJoe
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    @tincup said:
    That hind leg just ain't right either.

    The hind leg is the first thing I look at. Obvious fake.

    Joe.

  • lkenefic
    lkenefic Posts: 9,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    No engraver's initial on the obverse was what I looked at first...

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  • Slade01
    Slade01 Posts: 294 ✭✭✭
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    Agree, which is why I said, "James Earle Fraser would be disappointed by being left out."

    I mean you can still pretty easily see it on a G4 and even often a hint of it on AG3/FR02 on a genuine coin.

  • erwindoc
    erwindoc Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Almost looks like an, "S" mint mark to me.

  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Reported.

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  • Barberian
    Barberian Posts: 4,643 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Reported.

  • zomrhino
    zomrhino Posts: 38 ✭✭✭
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    “It was minted in Denver.” It was most likely minted in China with the other fake coins.

  • MFeld
    MFeld Posts: 17,135 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @braddick said:

    @MFeld said:
    Please include links when you start such threads. If you don’t know how, learn how - you’ll be glad that you did.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/135040214368

    Thank you @braddick.
    Since the OP starts similar threads from time to time, I’m trying to encourage him to post links. As he’s the one who already knows where to find the listings he reports.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • jesbroken
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    Reported.
    Jim


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  • Goldbully
    Goldbully Posts: 18,558 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Slade01 said:
    Agree, which is why I said, "James Earle Fraser would be disappointed by being left out."

    I mean you can still pretty easily see it on a G4 and even often a hint of it on AG3/FR02 on a genuine coin.

    These are the two lowest graded I could find on Coin Facts.



    F12

    VG10

  • johnny9434
    johnny9434 Posts: 34,074 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @lkenefic said:
    Wow... bid up to $331 so far.

    $360 with 33 bids 👎

  • kaz
    kaz Posts: 9,378 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Horrible fake.

  • giantsfan20
    giantsfan20 Posts: 1,750 ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 4, 2024 5:55PM
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    Lets see if Ebays A1 system manages to pull this auction or not.

    https://www.ebay.com/usr/collageadult11

    collageadult11,collageadult11,collageadult11, Ebay Seller Fake 3 legged 1937 D Nickel

  • Slade01
    Slade01 Posts: 294 ✭✭✭
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    @giantsfan20 said:
    Lets see if Ebays A1 system manages to pull this auction or not.

    https://www.ebay.com/usr/collageadult11

    collageadult11,collageadult11,collageadult11, Ebay Seller Fake 3 legged 1937 D Nickel

    And reported by about a dozen people, it they don't hey are fully aware that they are participating in this fraud. They don't seem to care much about such things though.

  • Walkerlover
    Walkerlover Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭✭
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    @Slade01 said:

    @giantsfan20 said:
    Lets see if Ebays A1 system manages to pull this auction or not.

    https://www.ebay.com/usr/collageadult11

    collageadult11,collageadult11,collageadult11, Ebay Seller Fake 3 legged 1937 D Nickel

    And reported by about a dozen people, it they don't hey are fully aware that they are participating in this fraud. They don't seem to care much about such things though.

    Would it be fair to bid high, win the coin and refuse to pay as it is counterfeit and then report the seller. It would be a public service.

  • Barberian
    Barberian Posts: 4,643 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It's fun to see two bidders deliberately ruin these auctions with ever escalating bids into 6 or 7-figures.

    I miss Russ.

  • Goldbully
    Goldbully Posts: 18,558 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Barberian said:

    I miss Russ.


  • burfle23
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  • Bikergeek
    Bikergeek Posts: 704 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Kudos to the folks who initiate the thread, post the links and pictures, and report these bad actors! I also reported this listing - and sent a note to the seller informing them that this counterfeit coin was getting attention "on the forums" and was being reported by numerous people - including me. :-)

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  • PerryHall
    PerryHall Posts: 47,755 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    If a real buffalo nickel were buried in the ground for a long time and was found by someone with a metal detector, wouldn't it have the same look as this coin?

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  • oih82w8
    oih82w8 Posts: 13,212 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 5, 2024 10:55AM
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    "No Returns" is red flag for me.

    Add another reported advisor to the pile.

    I received this reply back from ebay...

    ‐‐--‐---------------------------------------------
    "A decision was made on the listing you reported

    Hello oih82w8,

    Thanks again for reporting the listing(s) you found. 

    What happened:
    We looked into your report and didn’t find the listing to be in violation of our policy.  This determination was made by a customer service agent.

    If you reported content that isn’t listed below, we’ll send a separate email once we’ve made a decision. 

    Your reference ID:
    2-177470470929 

    Here are the listings you reported that are included in this decision:
    Item: 135040214368 1937 D Three Legged Buffalo Nickel

    Thank you for being part of the eBay community.

    Thanks,
    eBay"


    Oh well...I tried.

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  • braddick
    braddick Posts: 25,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @PerryHall said:
    If a real buffalo nickel were buried in the ground for a long time and was found by someone with a metal detector, wouldn't it have the same look as this coin?

    Having been burried in the ground does not change the font of the date as is the case with the counterfeit coin.

  • Slade01
    Slade01 Posts: 294 ✭✭✭
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    @PerryHall said:
    If a real buffalo nickel were buried in the ground for a long time and was found by someone with a metal detector, wouldn't it have the same look as this coin?

    I don't think that it would lose its designer initial, as I can easily see it on G04, and even if the date is gone a small mark remains visible on AG02 and FR02. It is just inconceivable with that and all the other many issues that it could be genuine, like the date font that I examined closely in Photoshop.

  • johnny010
    johnny010 Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Reported
    Emailed seller as well

  • Slade01
    Slade01 Posts: 294 ✭✭✭
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    @johnny010 said:
    Reported
    Emailed seller as well

    That makes at least 10 of us, so if EBay ignores this, it once again proves that they don't care if they assist in fraud.

  • MtW124
    MtW124 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Very mushy and cast looking. I will say fake as well

  • Goldbully
    Goldbully Posts: 18,558 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 7, 2024 8:34AM
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    Three hours to go........................Bid $400........39 bids!!



    eBay Linky

  • CRHer700
    CRHer700 Posts: 2,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @PerryHall said:
    If a real buffalo nickel were buried in the ground for a long time and was found by someone with a metal detector, wouldn't it have the same look as this coin?

    No, it would likely be reddish and have dirt that is impossible to remove. That "coin" is way too grey and clean.

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  • Connecticoin
    Connecticoin Posts: 13,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @tcollects said:
    if it ain't pissin, the leg ain't missin

    • Bill Fivaz

    No moth-eaten hind leg either

  • Slade01
    Slade01 Posts: 294 ✭✭✭
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    And EBay could care less, tells you a lot about their business practices.

  • BuffaloIronTail
    BuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The coin is altered. The date is suspect to start with.

    The PUPs are not there.

    Pete

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  • thebeav
    thebeav Posts: 4,118 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The first thing I've always looked at on a three legger is the distance the motto is from the Buffalos back. You can't fake that with any other '37D.

  • MarkKelley
    MarkKelley Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @PerryHall said:
    If a real buffalo nickel were buried in the ground for a long time and was found by someone with a metal detector, wouldn't it have the same look as this coin?

    T don't think so. For one thing, the designer's initial should still be visible.

  • Connecticoin
    Connecticoin Posts: 13,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Closed at $450. I reported it anyway, hopefully ebay cancels it.

  • Slade01
    Slade01 Posts: 294 ✭✭✭
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    @Connecticoin said:
    Closed at $450. I reported it anyway, hopefully ebay cancels it.

    It does not show up in the search for the coin under the completed sales or auctions search. Perhaps EBay folded due to public pressure for a change.

  • Connecticoin
    Connecticoin Posts: 13,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Slade01 said:

    @Connecticoin said:
    Closed at $450. I reported it anyway, hopefully ebay cancels it.

    It does not show up in the search for the coin under the completed sales or auctions search. Perhaps EBay folded due to public pressure for a change.

    Still shows up as a completed sale:

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/135040214368

  • Slade01
    Slade01 Posts: 294 ✭✭✭
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    @Connecticoin said:

    @Slade01 said:

    @Connecticoin said:
    Closed at $450. I reported it anyway, hopefully ebay cancels it.

    It does not show up in the search for the coin under the completed sales or auctions search. Perhaps EBay folded due to public pressure for a change.

    Still shows up as a completed sale:

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/135040214368

    That always happens when they remove an item to be subtle, but if things actually sell at any price they are listed under sold items/completed items. I've had them advise me several times that they removed an item and it showed sold on the page but never made it to the sold items, and in one case I know that it was removed because I had written the seller and he sent me a nasty message, I just laughed.

  • Goldbully
    Goldbully Posts: 18,558 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    This is just another example of greed by the seller and eBay when it comes to the selling of raw coins.

    The last time I bought raw coins on eBay was in 2008.

    I purchased three $20 Saints in the raw!!!!(How dumb can you get?)

    Sent them to PCGS and they all came back MS64!!

    At that time I was not a member of PCGS and gave the coins to my LCS to submit.

    When I picked up my submission, all the owner of the shop could say was, "Can I keep these?" 😊🤣

    Those days are long gone!!!!!

  • MsMorrisine
    MsMorrisine Posts: 40,054 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    the 3 is wrong

    it hasn't admitted it either

    ebay used to nuke auctions post-close. do they not do that anymore?

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