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bidaskbidask Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited July 21, 2023 5:45AM in World & Ancient Coins Forum

I like this PCGS 67 pop 1 coin.....crossed over from NGC.

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  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,084 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Love it!

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,126 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That looks very cool and I have actually never seen this design before. Thank you for showing it to us.

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  • ELuisELuis Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coin from 'Don Benito Juarez'

  • AbueloAbuelo Posts: 1,820 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is a nice strike. Usually the features of the bust are not as clear. Great coin.

  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I must have at least 15-20 Clyde Hubbard 8 reales that need to be added as a provenance

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  • HoledandCreativeHoledandCreative Posts: 2,789 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow!

  • realeswatcherrealeswatcher Posts: 398 ✭✭✭

    @bidask What's the percentage complete up to? (including your NGC pieces)

  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @realeswatcher said:
    @bidask What's the percentage complete up to? (including your NGC pieces)

    Close to 40%

    Thanks for asking 😊

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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,200 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I seem to remember Dave Akers remarking in his intoductory comments at the Pittman sale about collecting Mexican 8 Reales by date. Something like "if you want to really drive yourself crazy", or "you would have to be crazy". Was anyone here at that sale? Do you remember that?

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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MrEureka said:
    I seem to remember Dave Akers remarking in his intoductory comments at the Pittman sale about collecting Mexican 8 Reales by date. Something like "if you want to really drive yourself crazy", or "you would have to be crazy". Was anyone here at that sale? Do you remember that?

    I do seem to remember ...vaguely that quote ....it has been a stumbling journey ...but fun.

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  • dizzleccdizzlecc Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭

    Nice additions to the core collection, solid group of hard to find early date 8 reales

  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Beautiful gem......tough early date.


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  • TheGoonies1985TheGoonies1985 Posts: 5,405 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great looking coins congrats on the pick-ups!!!

  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,488 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bidask said:

    This is a very rare coin. The 1866-CaFP is as well.

  • ELuisELuis Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bidask said:
    very scarce

    I see the letter K is that on the plastic?

  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ELuis said:

    @bidask said:
    very scarce

    I see the letter K is that on the plastic?

    I don’t have the coin in hand to determine

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  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,084 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great set Dan!

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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks here are two new additions:

    The 1854 GA JG is graded PCGS AU 55 as is the 1850 DO JMR

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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I recently got back from PCGS a submission of (10) 8 reales cap /rays

    This was for crossover .

    All coins submitted were in NGC holders .

    I was two for 10 .

    Lousy

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  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 19, 2024 4:37PM

    @bidask said:
    I recently got back from PCGS a submission of (10) 8 reales cap /rays

    This was for crossover .

    All coins submitted were in NGC holders .

    I was two for 10 .

    Lousy

    Well the example posted above is absolutely lovely.
    I imagine that you have an idea going into the submission X percent solid cross, X percent maybe and similarly one or two unlikely but hopeful. If so, out of the ten what were you thinking, are far as a number, 5? 6? 7?, were solid to cross.

    Given that you have crossed numerous coins over the years, do you have the sense things are tighter currently? Or is it a matter of just unfortunate luck on this particular submission.

    *grammar

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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 19, 2024 5:08PM

    https://s3.amazonaws.com/collectors-society-production/Collectibles/27112/5707246_Full_Obv.jpg?q=10132023192005

    https://s3.amazonaws.com/collectors-society-production/Collectibles/27112/5707246_Full_Rev.jpg?q=10132023192005

    @JohnnyCache said:

    @bidask said:
    I recently got back from PCGS a submission of (10) 8 reales cap /rays

    This was for crossover .

    All coins submitted were in NGC holders .

    I was two for 10 .

    Lousy

    Well the example posted above is absolutely lovely.
    I imagine that you have an idea going into the submission X percent solid cross, X percent maybe and similarly one or two unlikely but hopeful. If so, out of the ten what were you thinking, are far as a number, 5? 6? 7?, were solid to cross.

    Given that you have crossed numerous coins over the years, do you have the sense things are tighter currently? Or is it a matter of just unfortunate luck on this particular submission.

    *grammar

    i was hoping for 4-5 to absolutely cross. One that did not cross was a NGC 65 + that I asked to be crossed at a 65.

    A blazer it was a mid earlier date. But nooooo......

    I think they are tighter so much so it may be the last time I do this !!

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  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 19, 2024 4:57PM

    @bidask said:

    I was hoping for 4-5 to absolutely cross. One that did not was a NGC 65 + that I asked to be crossed at a 65.

    A blazer it was as a mid earlier date. Buy nooooo......

    I think they are tighter so much so it may be the last time I do this !!

     

    I don't know that I would have been confident on the 63, maybe I'd think otherwise if seen in hand.
    I'd love to see that NGC65+ if you get the chance. It should tell the story.

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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JohnnyCache said:

    @bidask said:

    I was hoping for 4-5 to absolutely cross. One that did not was a NGC 65 + that I asked to be crossed at a 65.

    A blazer it was as a mid earlier date. Buy nooooo......

    I think they are tighter so much so it may be the last time I do this !!

     

    I don't know that I would have been confident on the 63, maybe I'd think otherwise if seen in hand.
    I'd love to see that NGC65+ if you get the chance. It should tell the story.

    which 63 are you referring to ?

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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 19, 2024 5:09PM

    oh that one !! A beauty ...have not tried yet ,

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  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, that's quite a haul. Congratulations on your recent acquisitions.

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  • ELuisELuis Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bidask A nice addition for sure! - Is the 1833 Mo MJ a tough date too?

  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ELuis said:
    @bidask A nice addition for sure! - Is the 1833 Mo MJ a tough date too?

    A slightly better date but not a tough date

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  • GotTheBugGotTheBug Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bidask

    Totally amazing collection!!! Stunning eye appeal and, I could go on, but the coins do the talking better than I can...

  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GotTheBug said:
    @bidask

    Totally amazing collection!!! Stunning eye appeal and, I could go on, but the coins do the talking better than I can...

    Thank you !

    I “ got the bug”😊 for RESPLANDORES early 2016

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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 17, 2024 12:34PM

    @bidask said:
    Upcoming Rutherford collection has PCGS 55 specimen of this date ,

    Here is my mine.

    PCGS 64

    Can someone tell me why the Rutherford speciman in PCGS 55 sold for $12,000 all in ?

    Was it a different variety from the one I own?

    PCGS says both are 1860-Oa AE 8 R Oa04 Eagle of 1859-1860.

    Is that so ?

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  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 17, 2024 12:56PM

    I have no idea but I'm going to link the coin and add the pictures.

    Also your post above is a little confusing in that you say "Here's mine" but posted the TV of the 55


    MS 64 COIN

     
    PCGS census

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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JohnnyCache said:
    I have no idea but I'm going to link the coin and add the pictures.

    Also your post above is a little confusing in that you say "Here's mine" but posted the TV of the 55


    MS 64 COIN

     
    PCGS census

    The eagle looks different

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  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 17, 2024 2:57PM

    Where are you seeing the differences?
    Beyond accounting for the difference due to strike.


     
    Here depicted with yours as a transparency over the colorized 55, lines up

    Same thing only I left the 55 as normal and colorized the transparency.

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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree the strike is stronger on the one in Stacks auction.

    Also, PCGS does state they are both
    eagle of 59-60 .

    I’m not sure that’s correct .

    Why would the one in Stacks that just auctioned for 12k bring so much ?

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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 17, 2024 2:38PM

    I like this color better on the one I own .

    It’s also formerly own by Clyde Hubbard

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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ![](https://us.v-cdn.net/6027503/uploads/editor/sb/t8q8qik1

    @JohnnyCache said:

    Where are you seeing the differences?
    Beyond accounting for the difference due to strike.

    Does not the eagle on the right tail as well as neck look different?

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  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bidask said:

    Where are you seeing the differences?
    Beyond accounting for the difference due to strike.

    Does not the eagle on the right tail as well as neck look different?

    I don't see any difference beyond strike. The overlays, see above, match very tightly.
    However, I have zero expertise on these coins, or any coins really, and you are the one who would know best.

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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JohnnyCache said:

    @bidask said:

    Where are you seeing the differences?
    Beyond accounting for the difference due to strike.

    Does not the eagle on the right tail as well as neck look different?

    I don't see any difference beyond strike. The overlays, see above, match very tightly.
    However, I have zero expertise on these coins, or any coins really, and you are the one who would know best.

    I appreciate your thoughts @JohnnyCache

    As far as my expertise ….not really .

    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
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