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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,534 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BAJJERFAN said:
    When you hear a dealer inferring or saying outright that they know something about PCGS that nobody else does.

    What if the dealer is David Hall or John Albanese?

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    cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @KensCoins2287 said:
    I was at a show and one dealer had prices clearly marked on all his coins, I asked to see something, and told him I’d buy it and he says “ oh no! those prices are what I paid for them” 🙄

    There are a couple dealers who set up at Texas shows who do this. Both of them have the coins in flips with the amount written in sharpie. One of them tells you when you sit down that the price on the flip is their cost, the other waits until you're ready to buy. It's annoying either way.

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    oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is a pretty long thread....Just started yesterday?

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    BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,626 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:

    @BAJJERFAN said:
    When you hear a dealer inferring or saying outright that they know something about PCGS that nobody else does.

    What if the dealer is David Hall or John Albanese?

    Was at a small local show. If they were a YUGE prominent dealer that would be different.

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    mattnissmattniss Posts: 838 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nothing like walking into a LCS and immediately hearing the mustard-stained old timer in the back loudly bragging about how much he ripped someone off. As if we can't hear you! Integrity matters. This has legit happened to me at least twice in my life (ironically, both as a YN/YN-ish).

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    Coin dealer I used to buy paper from in the 90s and early 2000's would overgrade his notes, using the old Greensheet grading standards as his "validation".

    He would try to tell you that multiple folds were "wrinkles" and allowed on UNC notes, and get angry if you didn't agree with him. I remember seeing notes that were VF at best graded UNC in his case. "Mishandled UNC" was another favorite term of his for both coins and paper that were damaged but still priced at full retail.

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    mikee999mikee999 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Catbert said:
    I can't think of any but I do remember dumb things I've said!

    Do tell.

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    goldengolden Posts: 10,459 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A few years ago, I was at a major show. I asked a dealer if I could see a coin in the case. He said that I could not afford it. I walked away. I told another dealer, that I do business with, about what had happened. He said tell me who it was, and I will go straighten him out. I said never mind it is not worth it.

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    BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 11,628 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just one?

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    blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 7,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 4, 2024 3:47PM

    Dealer says; "This coins more expensive because it's in a rarer old plastic slab and it's got the shiny cacs sticker". LOL you can't make this stuff up. At that moment I knew coin collecting had become Beanie Babies 2.0. SMH!

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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 24,398 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 5, 2024 4:20AM

    Dumb is simply not limited to dealers... there is enough ignorance to be justifiably spread throughout the Hobby

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    Married2CoinsMarried2Coins Posts: 675 ✭✭✭

    @oldabeintx said:
    This is a pretty long thread....Just started yesterday?

    If you are not a coin dealer, this is a great answer: "This is a pretty long thread....Just started yesterday?"

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    blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 7,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 4, 2024 5:21PM

    @DeplorableDan said:

    @blitzdude said:
    Dealer says; "This coins more expensive because it's in a rarer old plastic slab and it's got the shiny cacs sticker". LOL you can't make this stuff up. At that moment I knew coin collecting had become Beanie Babies 2.0. SMH!

    Serious question Blitz, do you find any type of joy in your own collecting ventures? Or does your only joy come from criticizing what others collect?

    Plenty of joy collecting "coins" but I wouldn't expect a sticker lickin plastic collector to understand. :sunglasses: THKS!

    The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
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    Wooooha! Did someone just say it's officially "TACO™" Tuesday????
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    lermishlermish Posts: 4,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @blitzdude said:

    @DeplorableDan said:

    @blitzdude said:
    Dealer says; "This coins more expensive because it's in a rarer old plastic slab and it's got the shiny cacs sticker". LOL you can't make this stuff up. At that moment I knew coin collecting had become Beanie Babies 2.0. SMH!

    Serious question Blitz, do you find any type of joy in your own collecting ventures? Or does your only joy come from criticizing what others collect?

    Plenty of joy collecting "coins" but I wouldn't expect a sticker lickin plastic collector to understand. :sunglasses: THKS!

    I don't want to get jailed so I'll be as nice as possible but...

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    lermishlermish Posts: 4,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    chopmarkedtradedollars.com

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    blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 7,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 4, 2024 6:33PM

    Found yours, as well. Don't forget the mustad. LOL

    The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
    BOOMIN!™
    Wooooha! Did someone just say it's officially "TACO™" Tuesday????
    Retiring at 55, what day is today? :sunglasses:

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    HillbillyCollectorHillbillyCollector Posts: 733 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @littlebear said:
    Dealer promoting his coin:
    "Now THIS is a coin that was once uncirculated." Huh?

    I just love this one!
    At least he was ‘technically’ correct!😂

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    TypekatTypekat Posts: 670 ✭✭✭✭✭

    umhhhh… how about:

    “This coin will be a great investment!”

    or some similar attempt at ‘sales by fortune-telling’, heard much too frequently over the years.

    30+ years coin shop experience (ret.) Coins, bullion, currency, scrap & interesting folks. Loved every minute!

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    jkrkjkrk Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 4, 2024 8:59PM

    Today...

    Buyer... You're offering the DE @ $3750.

    Buyer... I'll pay $2900.

    Me TY. I'll pass.

    Buyer What's your best price?

    Me... $3750.00

    Another dumb answer on my part.

    Imagine if I did this to earn a living?

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    CryptoCrypto Posts: 4,098 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I had a dealer once try to tell me that a heavily whizzed coin was not only PQ but worth strong money because of the strong luster. Mind you it was an old ANACS XF45 details holder (net VF) holder. It was an interesting variety that I might have picked it up for cheap but he had it for UNC money and that was his response when I asked about the price. I have no idea if he was full of BS or believed it, not sure which would be worse.

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    BarberianBarberian Posts: 4,643 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 4, 2024 10:36PM

    "These are all common, circulated dimes, I can only offer you 60 cents apiece for them."
    [complete Mercury dime set in a Whitman folder, with the "rare" cardboard filler removed]

    "Get out of my store and don't you ever come back here again!"

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    BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,885 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cmerlo1 said:

    @KensCoins2287 said:
    I was at a show and one dealer had prices clearly marked on all his coins, I asked to see something, and told him I’d buy it and he says “ oh no! those prices are what I paid for them” 🙄

    There are a couple dealers who set up at Texas shows who do this. Both of them have the coins in flips with the amount written in sharpie. One of them tells you when you sit down that the price on the flip is their cost, the other waits until you're ready to buy. It's annoying either way.

    Green price guy. He's been that way for a thousand years AND never remembers anyone, so EVERYONE gets the spieel. If you get up, think about something you saw, and decide to return to look at it 30s later, you get it again.

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    DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 2,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @knovak1976 said:

    @DisneyFan said:
    …..

    Funny thing, a Mercedes dealer once told me his salespeople rush over to prospective clients that are not well dressed as they are the ones who have the money and don't need to impress anyone.

    …..LOL….not here in SE Florida where I live. I went looking for a nice MB several years ago…..and drove to the dealership in my ‘beater car’ with 320,000 miles on it. After 30 minutes my stepdaughter who was with me said, ‘I can’t believe they are ignoring you because of the car you arrived in when you came ready to buy a new car and write them a check for it!’ Went on eBay and bought EXACTLY what I had been looking for….from an absolutely amazing car dealer in Atlanta….and have been extremely happy ever since. 😉

    In SE Florida they treat EVERYBODY that way.

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    cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BStrauss3 said:

    @cmerlo1 said:

    @KensCoins2287 said:
    I was at a show and one dealer had prices clearly marked on all his coins, I asked to see something, and told him I’d buy it and he says “ oh no! those prices are what I paid for them” 🙄

    There are a couple dealers who set up at Texas shows who do this. Both of them have the coins in flips with the amount written in sharpie. One of them tells you when you sit down that the price on the flip is their cost, the other waits until you're ready to buy. It's annoying either way.

    Green price guy. He's been that way for a thousand years AND never remembers anyone, so EVERYONE gets the spieel. If you get up, think about something you saw, and decide to return to look at it 30s later, you get it again.

    Yep! Not naming names but he's one of them. The other one ran me off from his table many years ago for cherrypicking, even though I'd been a frequent customer. When he did, I was going through a bin of loose Morgan dollars priced by the each and he said "Oh those aren't for cherrypicking- you can't look through those." Throughout the rest my time at the show I saw several others going through the bin and examining them. I haven't been back to his table since.

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    BustDMsBustDMs Posts: 1,706 ✭✭✭✭✭

    He got a real pretty mouth, ain't he?

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    A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.



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    DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,431 ✭✭✭✭✭

    After looking at a good deal of coins at a store, the dealer said "I've got a gorgeous 1921 Peace dollar to show you". Well, he brings out this gorgeous 1921 dollar, but I'm waiting for his reaction and after about 5 minutes I say to him "it's a Morgan, not a Peace dollar" to which he replies "that's right! How could I have been so stupid". Needless to say, I didn't comment further.

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    ajaanajaan Posts: 17,936 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DoubleEagle59 said:
    One more...this time it's not what a dealer said, but rather, what they did.

    I was finalizing the purchase of a PCGS ms63 toned Canadian coin (at the Buffalo coin show) and the dealer said "oh, I really hate to let this one go" and as we completed the deal, as he handed me the slab, he KISSED it and said 'goodbye beautiful coin!"....I was totally repulsed and I thought to myself, there's a lot of weirdos in this world...... (I also quickly sterilized the slab for 'coin nerd' germs).

    I'm in Buffalo and would love to know the dealer.


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    MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 5, 2024 2:11PM

    "Hell, why would you want to look at it? You can't afford it!"

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    DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,431 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ajaan said:

    @DoubleEagle59 said:
    One more...this time it's not what a dealer said, but rather, what they did.

    I was finalizing the purchase of a PCGS ms63 toned Canadian coin (at the Buffalo coin show) and the dealer said "oh, I really hate to let this one go" and as we completed the deal, as he handed me the slab, he KISSED it and said 'goodbye beautiful coin!"....I was totally repulsed and I thought to myself, there's a lot of weirdos in this world...... (I also quickly sterilized the slab for 'coin nerd' germs).

    I'm in Buffalo and would love to know the dealer.

    It was about 25 years ago at the annual show at the Erie fairgrounds (I think?) however, I have no idea who the dealer was.

    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

    "“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)

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    BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 11,628 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Typekat said:
    umhhhh… how about:

    “This coin will be a great investment!”

    or some similar attempt at ‘sales by fortune-telling’, heard much too frequently over the years.

    If the coin was a great investment why wouldn't the dealer keep it.

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    BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 11,628 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ProofCollection said:
    "PCGS got this wrong... it actually is prooflike."

    In days of old before TPG's, debates
    only existed over raw coin conditions. Now we have debates over which TPG is correct or incorrect. What will the future hold.

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    mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 7,017 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Got grey poupon?

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    jughead1893jughead1893 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 5, 2024 9:57PM

    @BStrauss3 said:

    @cmerlo1 said:

    @KensCoins2287 said:
    I was at a show and one dealer had prices clearly marked on all his coins, I asked to see something, and told him I’d buy it and he says “ oh no! those prices are what I paid for them” 🙄

    There are a couple dealers who set up at Texas shows who do this. Both of them have the coins in flips with the amount written in sharpie. One of them tells you when you sit down that the price on the flip is their cost, the other waits until you're ready to buy. It's annoying either way.

    Green price guy. He's been that way for a thousand years AND never remembers anyone, so EVERYONE gets the spieel. If you get up, think about something you saw, and decide to return to look at it 30s later, you get it again.

    Been dealing with him at least 30 yr.Every time I walk up its like hes never laid eyes on me. I figured he was just jacking with me,

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    CrepidoderaCrepidodera Posts: 457 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In the early nineties when I was working on a VF/XF set of barber quarters, a prominent national dealer said "don't get hung up on original."

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    TyrockTyrock Posts: 312 ✭✭✭

    A dealer I'm new to told me that "grading is a science and not an art." I'm at the point where I just smile and let it go.

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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DoubleEagle59 said:
    One more...this time it's not what a dealer said, but rather, what they did.

    I was finalizing the purchase of a PCGS ms63 toned Canadian coin (at the Buffalo coin show) and the dealer said "oh, I really hate to let this one go" and as we completed the deal, as he handed me the slab, he KISSED it and said 'goodbye beautiful coin!"....I was totally repulsed and I thought to myself, there's a lot of weirdos in this world...... (I also quickly sterilized the slab for 'coin nerd' germs).

    I would have had to make it even more awkward for him by asking him if he was up to date on his vaccinations. 🤮

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    mikee999mikee999 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BStrauss3 said:
    See, now, my best experience is exactly the opposite.

    I'm at a dealer's table at the ANA WFoM looking at a couple of very modestly priced items when he sees a customer and asks if I'd mind him showing the guy something. "Of course not, I'm mostly just looking."

    He pulls a slab out of his pocket and hands it to the other customer, who looks it over carefully.

    The customer looks it over carefully and hands it back and the dealer says to me, "Do you want to look?" "Sure..." (I'm at the WFoM to learn and I'll look at and appreciate anything. The dealer hands me a GORGEOUS CC Morgan in MS68. Jaw drop coin.

    The other customer says, very nice, but not really for me, what did you want for it? Oh, 90.

    I carefully handed it back to the dealer as if it had become a radioactive spider and resumed perusing my $40 coins. $40, not $40k.

    I would’ve said Oh, will you take 180 for it & walk away. before he responds.

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