@BAJJERFAN said:
When you hear a dealer inferring or saying outright that they know something about PCGS that nobody else does.
What if the dealer is David Hall or John Albanese?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
@KensCoins2287 said:
I was at a show and one dealer had prices clearly marked on all his coins, I asked to see something, and told him I’d buy it and he says “ oh no! those prices are what I paid for them” 🙄
There are a couple dealers who set up at Texas shows who do this. Both of them have the coins in flips with the amount written in sharpie. One of them tells you when you sit down that the price on the flip is their cost, the other waits until you're ready to buy. It's annoying either way.
You Suck! Awarded 6/2008- 1901-O Micro O Morgan, 8/2008- 1878 VAM-123 Morgan, 9/2022 1888-O VAM-1B3 H8 Morgan | Senior Regional Representative- ANACS Coin Grading. Posted opinions on coins are my own, and are not an official ANACS opinion.
My award for stupidest thing ever said goes to a coin dealer who used to visit our town in the late 1970's. Twice a year he would show up at our mall with thousands of coins for sale. Every single one whizzed. In fact he had an electric powered wire brush machine right in his stall.
When I asked him about it he claimed, "Every professional coin dealer has a wire wheel machine like this, because shiny sells!" Claimed to have been a coin dealer for 50 years. have always wondered how many thousands of coins he ruined. james
Nothing like walking into a LCS and immediately hearing the mustard-stained old timer in the back loudly bragging about how much he ripped someone off. As if we can't hear you! Integrity matters. This has legit happened to me at least twice in my life (ironically, both as a YN/YN-ish).
Coin dealer I used to buy paper from in the 90s and early 2000's would overgrade his notes, using the old Greensheet grading standards as his "validation".
He would try to tell you that multiple folds were "wrinkles" and allowed on UNC notes, and get angry if you didn't agree with him. I remember seeing notes that were VF at best graded UNC in his case. "Mishandled UNC" was another favorite term of his for both coins and paper that were damaged but still priced at full retail.
Funny thing, a Mercedes dealer once told me his salespeople rush over to prospective clients that are not well dressed as they are the ones who have the money and don't need to impress anyone.
…..LOL….not here in SE Florida where I live. I went looking for a nice MB several years ago…..and drove to the dealership in my ‘beater car’ with 320,000 miles on it. After 30 minutes my stepdaughter who was with me said, ‘I can’t believe they are ignoring you because of the car you arrived in when you came ready to buy a new car and write them a check for it!’ Went on eBay and bought EXACTLY what I had been looking for….from an absolutely amazing car dealer in Atlanta….and have been extremely happy ever since. 😉
A few years ago, I was at a major show. I asked a dealer if I could see a coin in the case. He said that I could not afford it. I walked away. I told another dealer, that I do business with, about what had happened. He said tell me who it was, and I will go straighten him out. I said never mind it is not worth it.
A dealer at a show once pressed me if I had anything for sale. I hesitated, pulled out some nice AU pre-1940 D and S mint marked walkers. “Bah, I got rolls of that crap back at shop”. Really, rolls of AU ‘35S walkers, I said, looking at the VF common dates in his case….you should have brought them. “Hey, I can’t bring everything!”
Dealer says; "This coins more expensive because it's in a rarer old plastic slab and it's got the shiny cacs sticker". LOL you can't make this stuff up. At that moment I knew coin collecting had become Beanie Babies 2.0. SMH!
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@blitzdude said:
Dealer says; "This coins more expensive because it's in a rarer old plastic slab and it's got the shiny cacs sticker". LOL you can't make this stuff up. At that moment I knew coin collecting had become Beanie Babies 2.0. SMH!
Serious question Blitz, do you find any type of joy in your own collecting ventures? Or does your only joy come from criticizing what others collect?
@blitzdude said:
Dealer says; "This coins more expensive because it's in a rarer old plastic slab and it's got the shiny cacs sticker". LOL you can't make this stuff up. At that moment I knew coin collecting had become Beanie Babies 2.0. SMH!
Serious question Blitz, do you find any type of joy in your own collecting ventures? Or does your only joy come from criticizing what others collect?
@blitzdude said:
Dealer says; "This coins more expensive because it's in a rarer old plastic slab and it's got the shiny cacs sticker". LOL you can't make this stuff up. At that moment I knew coin collecting had become Beanie Babies 2.0. SMH!
Serious question Blitz, do you find any type of joy in your own collecting ventures? Or does your only joy come from criticizing what others collect?
Plenty of joy collecting "coins" but I wouldn't expect a sticker lickin plastic collector to understand. THKS!
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
BOOMIN!™
@blitzdude said:
Dealer says; "This coins more expensive because it's in a rarer old plastic slab and it's got the shiny cacs sticker". LOL you can't make this stuff up. At that moment I knew coin collecting had become Beanie Babies 2.0. SMH!
Serious question Blitz, do you find any type of joy in your own collecting ventures? Or does your only joy come from criticizing what others collect?
Plenty of joy collecting "coins" but I wouldn't expect a sticker lickin plastic collector to understand. THKS!
I don't want to get jailed so I'll be as nice as possible but...
When I was quite a bit younger.... asked a dealer to look at a coin in his case. He started to open the case.... then looked back at me, paused, then said "don't waste my time". Closed and locked the case, and turned his back to me without another word. (no one else was at his table). OK.... ...I was dumbfounded and walked away.
Many years and coins later, and many dollars spent.... but never with that dealer. Always walked right by his table, and could feel his eyes following me, like he wanted to say something.... but never did, nor I to him. Never stopped at this table again.... didn't want to waste MY time ya know!
I had a dealer once try to tell me that a heavily whizzed coin was not only PQ but worth strong money because of the strong luster. Mind you it was an old ANACS XF45 details holder (net VF) holder. It was an interesting variety that I might have picked it up for cheap but he had it for UNC money and that was his response when I asked about the price. I have no idea if he was full of BS or believed it, not sure which would be worse.
"These are all common, circulated dimes, I can only offer you 60 cents apiece for them."
[complete Mercury dime set in a Whitman folder, with the "rare" cardboard filler removed]
"Get out of my store and don't you ever come back here again!"
@KensCoins2287 said:
I was at a show and one dealer had prices clearly marked on all his coins, I asked to see something, and told him I’d buy it and he says “ oh no! those prices are what I paid for them” 🙄
There are a couple dealers who set up at Texas shows who do this. Both of them have the coins in flips with the amount written in sharpie. One of them tells you when you sit down that the price on the flip is their cost, the other waits until you're ready to buy. It's annoying either way.
Green price guy. He's been that way for a thousand years AND never remembers anyone, so EVERYONE gets the spieel. If you get up, think about something you saw, and decide to return to look at it 30s later, you get it again.
-----Burton ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
Funny thing, a Mercedes dealer once told me his salespeople rush over to prospective clients that are not well dressed as they are the ones who have the money and don't need to impress anyone.
…..LOL….not here in SE Florida where I live. I went looking for a nice MB several years ago…..and drove to the dealership in my ‘beater car’ with 320,000 miles on it. After 30 minutes my stepdaughter who was with me said, ‘I can’t believe they are ignoring you because of the car you arrived in when you came ready to buy a new car and write them a check for it!’ Went on eBay and bought EXACTLY what I had been looking for….from an absolutely amazing car dealer in Atlanta….and have been extremely happy ever since. 😉
@KensCoins2287 said:
I was at a show and one dealer had prices clearly marked on all his coins, I asked to see something, and told him I’d buy it and he says “ oh no! those prices are what I paid for them” 🙄
There are a couple dealers who set up at Texas shows who do this. Both of them have the coins in flips with the amount written in sharpie. One of them tells you when you sit down that the price on the flip is their cost, the other waits until you're ready to buy. It's annoying either way.
Green price guy. He's been that way for a thousand years AND never remembers anyone, so EVERYONE gets the spieel. If you get up, think about something you saw, and decide to return to look at it 30s later, you get it again.
Yep! Not naming names but he's one of them. The other one ran me off from his table many years ago for cherrypicking, even though I'd been a frequent customer. When he did, I was going through a bin of loose Morgan dollars priced by the each and he said "Oh those aren't for cherrypicking- you can't look through those." Throughout the rest my time at the show I saw several others going through the bin and examining them. I haven't been back to his table since.
You Suck! Awarded 6/2008- 1901-O Micro O Morgan, 8/2008- 1878 VAM-123 Morgan, 9/2022 1888-O VAM-1B3 H8 Morgan | Senior Regional Representative- ANACS Coin Grading. Posted opinions on coins are my own, and are not an official ANACS opinion.
After looking at a good deal of coins at a store, the dealer said "I've got a gorgeous 1921 Peace dollar to show you". Well, he brings out this gorgeous 1921 dollar, but I'm waiting for his reaction and after about 5 minutes I say to him "it's a Morgan, not a Peace dollar" to which he replies "that's right! How could I have been so stupid". Needless to say, I didn't comment further.
"Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
One more...this time it's not what a dealer said, but rather, what they did.
I was finalizing the purchase of a PCGS ms63 toned Canadian coin (at the Buffalo coin show) and the dealer said "oh, I really hate to let this one go" and as we completed the deal, as he handed me the slab, he KISSED it and said 'goodbye beautiful coin!"....I was totally repulsed and I thought to myself, there's a lot of weirdos in this world...... (I also quickly sterilized the slab for 'coin nerd' germs).
"Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
@DoubleEagle59 said:
One more...this time it's not what a dealer said, but rather, what they did.
I was finalizing the purchase of a PCGS ms63 toned Canadian coin (at the Buffalo coin show) and the dealer said "oh, I really hate to let this one go" and as we completed the deal, as he handed me the slab, he KISSED it and said 'goodbye beautiful coin!"....I was totally repulsed and I thought to myself, there's a lot of weirdos in this world...... (I also quickly sterilized the slab for 'coin nerd' germs).
If you're into Morgan varieties, don't ever buy a Hot Lips from him
@DoubleEagle59 said:
One more...this time it's not what a dealer said, but rather, what they did.
I was finalizing the purchase of a PCGS ms63 toned Canadian coin (at the Buffalo coin show) and the dealer said "oh, I really hate to let this one go" and as we completed the deal, as he handed me the slab, he KISSED it and said 'goodbye beautiful coin!"....I was totally repulsed and I thought to myself, there's a lot of weirdos in this world...... (I also quickly sterilized the slab for 'coin nerd' germs).
I'm in Buffalo and would love to know the dealer.
DPOTD-3 'Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery'
@DoubleEagle59 said:
One more...this time it's not what a dealer said, but rather, what they did.
I was finalizing the purchase of a PCGS ms63 toned Canadian coin (at the Buffalo coin show) and the dealer said "oh, I really hate to let this one go" and as we completed the deal, as he handed me the slab, he KISSED it and said 'goodbye beautiful coin!"....I was totally repulsed and I thought to myself, there's a lot of weirdos in this world...... (I also quickly sterilized the slab for 'coin nerd' germs).
I'm in Buffalo and would love to know the dealer.
It was about 25 years ago at the annual show at the Erie fairgrounds (I think?) however, I have no idea who the dealer was.
"Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
I was looking to free up some cash and brought a selection of XF-AU PCGS bust coins to a local dealer, with a greysheet of about $9500. Was offered $1300. "Early US type isn't really in demand at the moment." This was 2018 which was a quieter market, but I still don't know what he was thinking with an offer like that.
Among other series, I collect Trade Dollars. At a show, I say a dealer with a stack of three 1876-CC Trade Dollars. I asked him if I could look at the stack. He opened his case, then snarled at me and said "There ain't no double die reverse coins there!" I looked at the three and the very first one was a DDR! I thought about pointing out his error, then I decided to just shut my mouth and purchase it from him... at about 1/3 of its actual value.
@ProofCollection said:
"PCGS got this wrong... it actually is prooflike."
In days of old before TPG's, debates
only existed over raw coin conditions. Now we have debates over which TPG is correct or incorrect. What will the future hold.
Successful transactions:Tookybandit. "Everyone is equal, some are more equal than others".
See, now, my best experience is exactly the opposite.
I'm at a dealer's table at the ANA WFoM looking at a couple of very modestly priced items when he sees a customer and asks if I'd mind him showing the guy something. "Of course not, I'm mostly just looking."
He pulls a slab out of his pocket and hands it to the other customer, who looks it over carefully.
The customer looks it over carefully and hands it back and the dealer says to me, "Do you want to look?" "Sure..." (I'm at the WFoM to learn and I'll look at and appreciate anything. The dealer hands me a GORGEOUS CC Morgan in MS68. Jaw drop coin.
The other customer says, very nice, but not really for me, what did you want for it? Oh, 90.
I carefully handed it back to the dealer as if it had become a radioactive spider and resumed perusing my $40 coins. $40, not $40k.
-----Burton ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
@KensCoins2287 said:
I was at a show and one dealer had prices clearly marked on all his coins, I asked to see something, and told him I’d buy it and he says “ oh no! those prices are what I paid for them” 🙄
There are a couple dealers who set up at Texas shows who do this. Both of them have the coins in flips with the amount written in sharpie. One of them tells you when you sit down that the price on the flip is their cost, the other waits until you're ready to buy. It's annoying either way.
Green price guy. He's been that way for a thousand years AND never remembers anyone, so EVERYONE gets the spieel. If you get up, think about something you saw, and decide to return to look at it 30s later, you get it again.
Been dealing with him at least 30 yr.Every time I walk up its like hes never laid eyes on me. I figured he was just jacking with me,
@DoubleEagle59 said:
One more...this time it's not what a dealer said, but rather, what they did.
I was finalizing the purchase of a PCGS ms63 toned Canadian coin (at the Buffalo coin show) and the dealer said "oh, I really hate to let this one go" and as we completed the deal, as he handed me the slab, he KISSED it and said 'goodbye beautiful coin!"....I was totally repulsed and I thought to myself, there's a lot of weirdos in this world...... (I also quickly sterilized the slab for 'coin nerd' germs).
I would have had to make it even more awkward for him by asking him if he was up to date on his vaccinations. 🤮
@BStrauss3 said:
See, now, my best experience is exactly the opposite.
I'm at a dealer's table at the ANA WFoM looking at a couple of very modestly priced items when he sees a customer and asks if I'd mind him showing the guy something. "Of course not, I'm mostly just looking."
He pulls a slab out of his pocket and hands it to the other customer, who looks it over carefully.
The customer looks it over carefully and hands it back and the dealer says to me, "Do you want to look?" "Sure..." (I'm at the WFoM to learn and I'll look at and appreciate anything. The dealer hands me a GORGEOUS CC Morgan in MS68. Jaw drop coin.
The other customer says, very nice, but not really for me, what did you want for it? Oh, 90.
I carefully handed it back to the dealer as if it had become a radioactive spider and resumed perusing my $40 coins. $40, not $40k.
I would’ve said Oh, will you take 180 for it & walk away. before he responds.
Dealer: "That coin, my friend, can be pedigreed back to Thomas Jefferson."
Me: "Wow! Can I see the paperwork?"
Dealer: "Get the $%#@ away from my table!"
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What if the dealer is David Hall or John Albanese?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
There are a couple dealers who set up at Texas shows who do this. Both of them have the coins in flips with the amount written in sharpie. One of them tells you when you sit down that the price on the flip is their cost, the other waits until you're ready to buy. It's annoying either way.
This is a pretty long thread....Just started yesterday?
My award for stupidest thing ever said goes to a coin dealer who used to visit our town in the late 1970's. Twice a year he would show up at our mall with thousands of coins for sale. Every single one whizzed. In fact he had an electric powered wire brush machine right in his stall.
When I asked him about it he claimed, "Every professional coin dealer has a wire wheel machine like this, because shiny sells!" Claimed to have been a coin dealer for 50 years. have always wondered how many thousands of coins he ruined. james
Was at a small local show. If they were a YUGE prominent dealer that would be different.
Nothing like walking into a LCS and immediately hearing the mustard-stained old timer in the back loudly bragging about how much he ripped someone off. As if we can't hear you! Integrity matters. This has legit happened to me at least twice in my life (ironically, both as a YN/YN-ish).
Coin dealer I used to buy paper from in the 90s and early 2000's would overgrade his notes, using the old Greensheet grading standards as his "validation".
He would try to tell you that multiple folds were "wrinkles" and allowed on UNC notes, and get angry if you didn't agree with him. I remember seeing notes that were VF at best graded UNC in his case. "Mishandled UNC" was another favorite term of his for both coins and paper that were damaged but still priced at full retail.
…..LOL….not here in SE Florida where I live. I went looking for a nice MB several years ago…..and drove to the dealership in my ‘beater car’ with 320,000 miles on it. After 30 minutes my stepdaughter who was with me said, ‘I can’t believe they are ignoring you because of the car you arrived in when you came ready to buy a new car and write them a check for it!’ Went on eBay and bought EXACTLY what I had been looking for….from an absolutely amazing car dealer in Atlanta….and have been extremely happy ever since. 😉
Do tell.
A few years ago, I was at a major show. I asked a dealer if I could see a coin in the case. He said that I could not afford it. I walked away. I told another dealer, that I do business with, about what had happened. He said tell me who it was, and I will go straighten him out. I said never mind it is not worth it.
A dealer at a show once pressed me if I had anything for sale. I hesitated, pulled out some nice AU pre-1940 D and S mint marked walkers. “Bah, I got rolls of that crap back at shop”. Really, rolls of AU ‘35S walkers, I said, looking at the VF common dates in his case….you should have brought them. “Hey, I can’t bring everything!”
Just one?
Dealer says; "This coins more expensive because it's in a rarer old plastic slab and it's got the shiny cacs sticker". LOL you can't make this stuff up. At that moment I knew coin collecting had become Beanie Babies 2.0. SMH!
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BOOMIN!™
Serious question Blitz, do you find any type of joy in your own collecting ventures? Or does your only joy come from criticizing what others collect?
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Dumb is simply not limited to dealers... there is enough ignorance to be justifiably spread throughout the Hobby
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
If you are not a coin dealer, this is a great answer: "This is a pretty long thread....Just started yesterday?"
Plenty of joy collecting "coins" but I wouldn't expect a sticker lickin plastic collector to understand.
THKS!
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
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I don't want to get jailed so I'll be as nice as possible but...
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Hey Blitz - found your soulmate! https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1100340/rick-snow-recovery-fund
Found yours, as well. Don't forget the mustad. LOL
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When I was quite a bit younger.... asked a dealer to look at a coin in his case. He started to open the case.... then looked back at me, paused, then said "don't waste my time". Closed and locked the case, and turned his back to me without another word. (no one else was at his table). OK.... ...I was dumbfounded and walked away.
Many years and coins later, and many dollars spent.... but never with that dealer. Always walked right by his table, and could feel his eyes following me, like he wanted to say something.... but never did, nor I to him. Never stopped at this table again.... didn't want to waste MY time ya know!
I just love this one!
At least he was ‘technically’ correct!😂
umhhhh… how about:
“This coin will be a great investment!”
or some similar attempt at ‘sales by fortune-telling’, heard much too frequently over the years.
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"PCGS got this wrong... it actually is prooflike."
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Today...
Buyer... You're offering the DE @ $3750.
Buyer... I'll pay $2900.
Me TY. I'll pass.
Buyer What's your best price?
Me... $3750.00
Another dumb answer on my part.
Imagine if I did this to earn a living?
I had a dealer once try to tell me that a heavily whizzed coin was not only PQ but worth strong money because of the strong luster. Mind you it was an old ANACS XF45 details holder (net VF) holder. It was an interesting variety that I might have picked it up for cheap but he had it for UNC money and that was his response when I asked about the price. I have no idea if he was full of BS or believed it, not sure which would be worse.
11.5$ Southern Dollars, The little “Big Easy” set
"These are all common, circulated dimes, I can only offer you 60 cents apiece for them."
[complete Mercury dime set in a Whitman folder, with the "rare" cardboard filler removed]
"Get out of my store and don't you ever come back here again!"
Green price guy. He's been that way for a thousand years AND never remembers anyone, so EVERYONE gets the spieel. If you get up, think about something you saw, and decide to return to look at it 30s later, you get it again.
ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
In SE Florida they treat EVERYBODY that way.
Yep! Not naming names but he's one of them. The other one ran me off from his table many years ago for cherrypicking, even though I'd been a frequent customer. When he did, I was going through a bin of loose Morgan dollars priced by the each and he said "Oh those aren't for cherrypicking- you can't look through those." Throughout the rest my time at the show I saw several others going through the bin and examining them. I haven't been back to his table since.
He got a real pretty mouth, ain't he?
A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.
A numismatist is judged more on the content of their library than the content of their cabinet.
After looking at a good deal of coins at a store, the dealer said "I've got a gorgeous 1921 Peace dollar to show you". Well, he brings out this gorgeous 1921 dollar, but I'm waiting for his reaction and after about 5 minutes I say to him "it's a Morgan, not a Peace dollar" to which he replies "that's right! How could I have been so stupid". Needless to say, I didn't comment further.
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
"I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
One more...this time it's not what a dealer said, but rather, what they did.
I was finalizing the purchase of a PCGS ms63 toned Canadian coin (at the Buffalo coin show) and the dealer said "oh, I really hate to let this one go" and as we completed the deal, as he handed me the slab, he KISSED it and said 'goodbye beautiful coin!"....I was totally repulsed and I thought to myself, there's a lot of weirdos in this world...... (I also quickly sterilized the slab for 'coin nerd' germs).
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
"I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
If you're into Morgan varieties, don't ever buy a Hot Lips from him
I'm in Buffalo and would love to know the dealer.
DPOTD-3
'Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery'
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"Hell, why would you want to look at it? You can't afford it!"
It was about 25 years ago at the annual show at the Erie fairgrounds (I think?) however, I have no idea who the dealer was.
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
"I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
I was looking to free up some cash and brought a selection of XF-AU PCGS bust coins to a local dealer, with a greysheet of about $9500. Was offered $1300. "Early US type isn't really in demand at the moment." This was 2018 which was a quieter market, but I still don't know what he was thinking with an offer like that.
Among other series, I collect Trade Dollars. At a show, I say a dealer with a stack of three 1876-CC Trade Dollars. I asked him if I could look at the stack. He opened his case, then snarled at me and said "There ain't no double die reverse coins there!" I looked at the three and the very first one was a DDR! I thought about pointing out his error, then I decided to just shut my mouth and purchase it from him... at about 1/3 of its actual value.
Complete Set of Chopmarked Trade Dollars
Carson City Silver Dollars Complete 1870-1893http://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/showcase.aspx?sc=2722"
If the coin was a great investment why wouldn't the dealer keep it.
In days of old before TPG's, debates
only existed over raw coin conditions. Now we have debates over which TPG is correct or incorrect. What will the future hold.
Got grey poupon?
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.-Albert Einstein
See, now, my best experience is exactly the opposite.
I'm at a dealer's table at the ANA WFoM looking at a couple of very modestly priced items when he sees a customer and asks if I'd mind him showing the guy something. "Of course not, I'm mostly just looking."
He pulls a slab out of his pocket and hands it to the other customer, who looks it over carefully.
The customer looks it over carefully and hands it back and the dealer says to me, "Do you want to look?" "Sure..." (I'm at the WFoM to learn and I'll look at and appreciate anything. The dealer hands me a GORGEOUS CC Morgan in MS68. Jaw drop coin.
The other customer says, very nice, but not really for me, what did you want for it? Oh, 90.
I carefully handed it back to the dealer as if it had become a radioactive spider and resumed perusing my $40 coins. $40, not $40k.
ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
Been dealing with him at least 30 yr.Every time I walk up its like hes never laid eyes on me. I figured he was just jacking with me,
In the early nineties when I was working on a VF/XF set of barber quarters, a prominent national dealer said "don't get hung up on original."
A dealer I'm new to told me that "grading is a science and not an art." I'm at the point where I just smile and let it go.
I would have had to make it even more awkward for him by asking him if he was up to date on his vaccinations. 🤮
I would’ve said Oh, will you take 180 for it & walk away. before he responds.
Dealer: "That coin, my friend, can be pedigreed back to Thomas Jefferson."
Me: "Wow! Can I see the paperwork?"
Dealer: "Get the $%#@ away from my table!"